by mick745 » 25 Mar 2021 Read
At the moment the following players are dropping off the tour unless they do something in the world qualifiers. There are 26 names here, only 14 places are available through q school.
Some will have been affected by covid restrictions, some will no doubt now disappear as they arent good enough, some have fallen off before and got back on, and some will retire.
Yuan Sijun
Luo Honghao
Jackson Page
Mei Xiwen
Daniel Wells
Eden Sharav
Gerard Greene
Mitchell Mann
Igor Figueiredo
James Cahill
Si Jiahui
Barry Pinches
Sohail Vahedi
Kacper Filipiak
Duane Jones
David Lilley
Rod Lawler
Lei Peifan
Peter Lines
Brandon Sargeant
Fraser Patrick
Billy Joe Castle
Bai Langning
Amine Amiri
Alex Borg
Steve Mifsud
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by lhpirnie » 25 Mar 2021 Read
What makes you say 'some will retire'? I thought several of these players had already retired, but they still keep coming back...
There are some extremely talented younger players on that list. It would be a tragedy if some of them were not on tour next season.
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by Dan-cat » 25 Mar 2021 Read
Some promising names there...
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by cupotee » 25 Mar 2021 Read
and where's the sense in amateurs who were never on tour before even entering the q school , you can almost guarantee the likes of pinches lines jones vahedi green and page will either qualify back by q school or be strong top up players like michael white , just open the pro tour up for everyone with an entrance fee and thus further minimise the difficulties and restrictions , why have restrictions anyway when money is the essence of it all .
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by The_Abbott » 25 Mar 2021 Read
This has been a strange year as the person finishing in 64th place will have the lowest money earnt for a long time. Some good Chinese talent there but they will requalify I am sure.
Mifsud - thats one gone for starters!
Hicks is only just in the top 10 of teh 1 year list but needs to beat Reanne to stay I reckon.
Hamilton has made like 8k this year and still on the tour lol!
Lawler - retirement for sure.
Cahill - bye Ronniekiller
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by D4P » 25 Mar 2021 Read
Surprising that Billy Joe Castle's win over Ronnie at the Shootout last season didn't jumpstart his career...
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by The_Abbott » 25 Mar 2021 Read
none of these strong contenders for an invitational Jimmy card then?
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by Dan-cat » 25 Mar 2021 Read
The lowest ranked didn't use to have to face a top player in the last 128s. That's a bit unfair no?
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by D4P » 25 Mar 2021 Read
Dan-cat wrote:The lowest ranked didn't use to have to face a top player in the last 128s. That's a bit unfair no?
Hearn likes it that way. Survival of the fittest.
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by lhpirnie » 26 Mar 2021 Read
cupotee wrote:and where's the sense in amateurs who were never on tour before even entering the q school , you can almost guarantee the likes of pinches lines jones vahedi green and page will either qualify back by q school or be strong top up players like michael white , just open the pro tour up for everyone with an entrance fee and thus further minimise the difficulties and restrictions , why have restrictions anyway when money is the essence of it all .
There are contractual issues to wade through. But yes, in general I agree we should have a global ranking system, then it doesn't really matter.
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by mick745 » 26 Mar 2021 Read
There is no reason why they cant have hundreds if not thousands of tournaments at different tiers that contribute to rankings like in other sports.
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by chengdufan » 26 Mar 2021 Read
I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawler in q school, and he could well qualify.
I'll be stunned if we ever see Amiri or Patrick again.
I'd put Duane Jones, David Lilley and Filipiak as very unlikely to qualify again if they try.
It'll be interesting to see what Cahill does. I get the impression he could make a career of it if he could be bothered.
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by mick745 » 26 Mar 2021 Read
chengdufan wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawler in q school, and he could well qualify.
I'll be stunned if we ever see Amiri or Patrick again.
I'd put Duane Jones, David Lilley and Filipiak as very unlikely to qualify again if they try.
It'll be interesting to see what Cahill does. I get the impression he could make a career of it if he could be bothered.
Lawler requalifying would certainly be a damning indictment on the quality of any new young talent coming through.
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by cupotee » 26 Mar 2021 Read
chengdufan wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawler in q school, and he could well qualify.
I'll be stunned if we ever see Amiri or Patrick again.
I'd put Duane Jones, David Lilley and Filipiak as very unlikely to qualify again if they try.
It'll be interesting to see what Cahill does. I get the impression he could make a career of it if he could be bothered.
Patrick wouldn't be easy to beat for anyone there and even amiri's getting the experience , filipiak will probably try to bounce back one way or another yet again , why doesn't he call it a day .
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by cupotee » 26 Mar 2021 Read
mick745 wrote:chengdufan wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawler in q school, and he could well qualify.
I'll be stunned if we ever see Amiri or Patrick again.
I'd put Duane Jones, David Lilley and Filipiak as very unlikely to qualify again if they try.
It'll be interesting to see what Cahill does. I get the impression he could make a career of it if he could be bothered.
Lawler requalifying would certainly be a damning indictment on the quality of any new young talent coming through.
not at all he has over 30 years experience .
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by Iranu » 26 Mar 2021 Read
Lawler has over 30 years experience but hasn’t been in the top 32 for over 20 of them.
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by cupotee » 26 Mar 2021 Read
Iranu wrote:Lawler has over 30 years experience but hasn’t been in the top 32 for over 20 of them.
he still has the experience on pro tables which are hardly anywhere to be seen in Britain outside of wst events , if it was just open to everyone for an entrance fee over the last 30 years I'm not sure what status he would have enjoyed at all out of pro snooker .
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by Iranu » 26 Mar 2021 Read
cupotee wrote:Iranu wrote:Lawler has over 30 years experience but hasn’t been in the top 32 for over 20 of them.
he still has the experience on pro tables which are hardly anywhere to be seen in Britain outside of wst events , if it was just open to everyone for an entrance fee over the last 30 years I'm not sure what status he would have enjoyed at all out of pro snooker .
How would you deal logistically with the influx of players in terms of tournaments?
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by cupotee » 26 Mar 2021 Read
Iranu wrote:cupotee wrote:Iranu wrote:Lawler has over 30 years experience but hasn’t been in the top 32 for over 20 of them.
he still has the experience on pro tables which are hardly anywhere to be seen in Britain outside of wst events , if it was just open to everyone for an entrance fee over the last 30 years I'm not sure what status he would have enjoyed at all out of pro snooker .
How would you deal logistically with the influx of players in terms of tournaments?
Good question I was thinking that myself , tbh I haven't thought through a solution as there'd still need to be some rough estimate on the numbers of players refs venues etc , I just think at least anything is better than what we've got now , our friend rod being a good example .
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by chengdufan » 26 Mar 2021 Read
cupotee wrote:chengdufan wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawler in q school, and he could well qualify.
I'll be stunned if we ever see Amiri or Patrick again.
I'd put Duane Jones, David Lilley and Filipiak as very unlikely to qualify again if they try.
It'll be interesting to see what Cahill does. I get the impression he could make a career of it if he could be bothered.
Patrick wouldn't be easy to beat for anyone there and even amiri's getting the experience , filipiak will probably try to bounce back one way or another yet again , why doesn't he call it a day .
The thing with Fraser Patrick is that he first qualified as a professional in 2013 and had 4 years as a pro in which he barely won a match. In his three subsequent years in q school, sure he eventually qualified, but he also lost to Joel Walker, Andy Lee, Adrian Rosa, Kishan Hirani and Anthony Fieldsend.
He hasn't entered every event in this spell as a pro, in which again he has lost practically every match.
His record just strikes me as being at a level below the other plodders and yo-yo pros.
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by chengdufan » 26 Mar 2021 Read
I'm sure Filipiak will try, but there are at least 50 players better than him in the mix.
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by cupotee » 26 Mar 2021 Read
chengdufan wrote:cupotee wrote:chengdufan wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see Lawler in q school, and he could well qualify.
I'll be stunned if we ever see Amiri or Patrick again.
I'd put Duane Jones, David Lilley and Filipiak as very unlikely to qualify again if they try.
It'll be interesting to see what Cahill does. I get the impression he could make a career of it if he could be bothered.
Patrick wouldn't be easy to beat for anyone there and even amiri's getting the experience , filipiak will probably try to bounce back one way or another yet again , why doesn't he call it a day .
The thing with Fraser Patrick is that he first qualified as a professional in 2013 and had 4 years as a pro in which he barely won a match. In his three subsequent years in q school, sure he eventually qualified, but he also lost to Joel Walker, Andy Lee, Adrian Rosa, Kishan Hirani and Anthony Fieldsend.
He hasn't entered every event in this spell as a pro, in which again he has lost practically every match.
His record just strikes me as being at a level below the other plodders and yo-yo pros.
I get what you're saying but it wouldn't surprise me if it turned around for him , he seems to have a good temperament and should have beaten lisowski 20 days ago in the Gibraltar open .
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by badtemperedcyril » 26 Mar 2021 Read
Be a shame if Fraser Patrick drops off - he's got lovely eyes
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