Re: Rankings revisit - a trip through history
I guess there wasn't the 18.5 million audience for the finish that time.
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badtemperedcyril wrote:Interesting when you look further down the rankings, there’s a sprinkling of great names who graced the English Amateur Championships in the 1950’s and 60’s. The likes of Pat Houlihan, Cliff Wilson, Maurice Parkin, Marcus Owen, George Scott, John Dunning, Ray Edmonds, Jack Fitzmaurice, Doug French...
Clearly they were well past their best but nonetheless were trying to make up for lost time and be a part of the new snooker boom. If only they’d had the same opportunities 20 or 30 years earlier!
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:Good to see an American getting onto the tour. I predict that by 2000 half the Top 16 will be from the US.
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:Good to see an American getting onto the tour. I predict that by 2000 half the Top 16 will be from the US.
George Scott, proprietor of the George Scott Snooker Centre in Liverpool, was, by all accounts, something of a legend on the Mersey. I recall he knocked Reardon out of the Grand Prix around this time, before losing to Wilson. Looking back in magazines at the results from the English Amateur (Northern Section) in the 60's, George Scott was always prominent but was up against some great players, like John Spencer, David Taylor, Sid Hood and Ray Edmonds.chengdufan wrote:badtemperedcyril wrote:Interesting when you look further down the rankings, there’s a sprinkling of great names who graced the English Amateur Championships in the 1950’s and 60’s. The likes of Pat Houlihan, Cliff Wilson, Maurice Parkin, Marcus Owen, George Scott, John Dunning, Ray Edmonds, Jack Fitzmaurice, Doug French...
Clearly they were well past their best but nonetheless were trying to make up for lost time and be a part of the new snooker boom. If only they’d had the same opportunities 20 or 30 years earlier!
Wilson, Scott and Fitzmaurice are still winning matches in this 85-86 season, aged 51, 57 and 57 (as is 72 year old Fred Davis by the way). Cliff Wilson, a relative youngster, is still in or around the top 32. Fitzmaurice, who rarely won before '85, is having something of a renaissance.
Edmonds is doing ok. Houlihan is mostly losing, but can get the odd win.
The others have stopped playing, but hold a ranking from matches played in the last two years.
chengdufan wrote:Here's the link to the 84 WC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Worl ... ampionship
And here are the full rankings at the end of the 1983-84 season:
1 Steve Davis 15526
2 Jimmy White 8531
3 Kirk Stevens 7871
4 Cliff Thorburn 7582
5 Tony Knowles 7505
6 Terry Griffiths 6991
7 Tony Meo 6674
8 John Parrott 5929
9 Willie Thorne 5914
10 Dennis Taylor 5657
11 Eddie Charlton 4999
12 Joe Johnson 4799
13 Ray Reardon 4630
14 Silvino Francisco 4466
15 Doug Mountjoy 3884
16 John Spencer 3772
17 Mark Wildman 3761
18 Rex Williams 3529
19 Mario Morra 3428
20 Mike Hallett 3425
21 David Taylor 3325
22 Bill Werbeniuk 3151
23 Eugene Hughes 3075
24 Alex Higgins 3046
25 Neal Foulds 3042
26 Warren King 2720
27 John Virgo 2515
28 Cliff Wilson 2455
29 John Campbell 2430
30 Jim Wych 2318
31 Jim Donnelly 2289
32 Dave Martin 2268
33 Mike Watterson 2265
34 Eddie McLaughlin 2262
35 Eddie Sinclair 2133
36 Mick Fisher 2100
37 Ray Edmonds 2069
38 Roy Andrewartha 2048
39 Dean Reynolds 2030
40 Ian Williamson 1967
41 Tommy Murphy 1925
42 Paddy Morgan 1899
43 Marcel Gauvreau 1866
44 Paul Mifsud 1856
45 George Scott 1847
46 Colin Roscoe 1842
47 Murdo MacLeod 1797
48 Graham Miles 1732
49 Bill Oliver 1724
50 Pascal Burke 1718
51 Les Dodd 1625
52 Matt Gibson 1580
53 Jim Meadowcroft 1488
54 Paul Medati 1416
55 Graham Cripsey 1188
56 Fred Davis 1184
57 Tony Jones 1126
58 Frank Jonik 1103
59 Paddy Browne 1090
60 Bob Harris 1083
61 Bernie Mikkelsen 1058
62 Perrie Mans 1038
63 Billy Kelly 989
64 Steve Duggan 988
65 Geoff Foulds 964
66 Ian Black 948
67 Patsy Fagan 896
68 Jimmy van Rensberg 892
69 Bert Demarco 869
70 Doug French 864
71 Ian Anderson 817
72 George Ganim 781
73 John Dunning 771
74 Jack Fitzmaurice 768
75 Wayne Sanderson 728
76 Paul Watchorn 690
77 Mike Darrington 662
78 Bernard Bennett 661
79 John Hargreaves 628
80 Pat Houlihan 624
81 Mike Hines 608
82 Joe Cagianello 608
83 Dessie Sheehan 604
84 Vic Harris 544
85 John Bear 528
86 Dennis Hughes 516
87 David Greaves 450
88 Jackie Rea 385
89 Clive Everton 324
90 Paul Thornley 288
91 Leon Heywood 252
92 Gino Rigitano 252
93 Marcus Owen 232.5
94 Maurice Parkin 214
95 Gerry Watson 128
96 James Giannaros 36
97 Sid Hood 20
98 Roy Amdor 10
99 Derek Mienie 5
Wildey wrote:yea but this has to be seriously Flawed to have Mario Morra at no 19 he made just 3 last 32 in his career and 1 of them was 5 years after this season.