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Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Dan-cat

Wildey wrote:
Johnny Bravo wrote:
Iranu wrote:Not quickly enough to stop him having a good ~5 years before they caught up. Bear in mind they’d been watching him since they were kids and they still didn’t really catch up to his level until the mid/late 90s.

Don't you think that the fact that they were mere kids had something to do with him dominating ?!? <doh> :stupid:
When the class of 92 turned 20, Hendry's domination ended.

Lets put this in to perspective

at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible


What a comeback.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby SnookerFan

Dan-cat wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Johnny Bravo wrote:
Iranu wrote:Not quickly enough to stop him having a good ~5 years before they caught up. Bear in mind they’d been watching him since they were kids and they still didn’t really catch up to his level until the mid/late 90s.

Don't you think that the fact that they were mere kids had something to do with him dominating ?!? <doh> :stupid:
When the class of 92 turned 20, Hendry's domination ended.

Lets put this in to perspective

at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible


What a comeback.


Don't call it a comeback.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby mick745

This is the thing about sporting records. Somebody has already achieved that record. This means another human can do that also.

However some records have stood for a very long time, some bowling records in cricket for instance Headley Verity's 10for10 in 1932 hasnt been broken and there has been a decline in first class cricket being played in recent years so would be difficult.

However there are lots more ranking events in snooker now, so a good player with a reasonable longevity can rack up more centuries and more ranking titles than in the past.

But as always be careful comparing eras, Joe Davis is the real master woth 15 world titles.

People say it was different then. In 80 years people will be saying that about now. People may be looking back and thinking the overall standard in 2020 was primitive compared to 2100.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Wildey

TheRocket wrote:ROS and Hendry are the two greatest ever.

But both, Ronnie and Hendry have weaknesses. Ronnies weakness is that he hasnt won more World titles. 6 is great with all the other titles he's won and records he broke but probably not enough yet to be the undisputed and definite GOAT in the eyes of everyone.

Hendrys weakness is that he barely won anything after turning 30. His last major was his seventh World title in 1999. He had 10 years at the very top but a poor later career which haunts his legacy a little bit.

Hendrys Weakness was despite his Long game deteriorating he still went for them and because of the confidence he lost by thoes not going in he lost confidence in other shots. The pack splitter became weak far too tentative on it and it snowed balled from there.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Holden Chinaski

Wildey wrote:
at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible

Yes, but Ronnie did steamroll and humiliate the King at the 2004 and 2008 World championships where he destroyed him 17-4 and 17-6 at the Crucible.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby TheRocket

2008 was a great win but Hendry was definitely well past his prime at that stage and couldnt compete in that match but the 2004 win was superb. Hendry was still a great player and he beat Ronnie at the British Open that season in a very high quality match and then destroyed him at the UK Championship 9:4. So Hendry definitely had the game to beat him.

But long-haired ROS really produced a masterclass. A fantastic one visit display.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Wildey

mick745 wrote:This is the thing about sporting records. Somebody has already achieved that record. This means another human can do that also.

However some records have stood for a very long time, some bowling records in cricket for instance Headley Verity's 10for10 in 1932 hasnt been broken and there has been a decline in first class cricket being played in recent years so would be difficult.

However there are lots more ranking events in snooker now, so a good player with a reasonable longevity can rack up more centuries and more ranking titles than in the past.

But as always be careful comparing eras, Joe Davis is the real master woth 15 world titles.

People say it was different then. In 80 years people will be saying that about now. People may be looking back and thinking the overall standard in 2020 was primitive compared to 2100.

Thats true about John Higgins hes played 305 more Matches than Hendry and won about 500 more frames than Hendry but regarding Ronnie he has played much less so regarding break building and his win ratio and longevity in my opinion Ronnie has now surpassed Stephen Hendry.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Holden Chinaski

TheRocket wrote:2008 was a great win but Hendry was definitely well past his prime at that stage and couldnt compete in that match but the 2004 win was superb. Hendry was still a great player and he beat Ronnie at the British Open that season in a very high quality match and then destroyed him at the UK Championship 9:4. So Hendry definitely had the game to beat him.

But long-haired ROS really produced a masterclass. A fantastic one visit display.

Ronnie was a beast in 2004. The 2005 Masters was also brilliant. Loved watching him play in 2004 and 2005. A mad troubled genius he was in those days.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby TheRocket

Holden Chinaski wrote:
TheRocket wrote:2008 was a great win but Hendry was definitely well past his prime at that stage and couldnt compete in that match but the 2004 win was superb. Hendry was still a great player and he beat Ronnie at the British Open that season in a very high quality match and then destroyed him at the UK Championship 9:4. So Hendry definitely had the game to beat him.

But long-haired ROS really produced a masterclass. A fantastic one visit display.

Ronnie was a beast in 2004. The 2005 Masters was also brilliant. Loved watching him play in 2004 and 2005. A mad troubled genius he was in those days.


His win over Hendry in the 2004 semis and over Higgins in the 2005 Masters final are definitely two of his best ever performances without any doubt. But he was indeed a mad troubled genius. The Ebdon match in 2005 was a prime example. Ebdons slow play totally destroyed him.

Still good times though. There is no doubt that Reardon deserves a lot of credit. He transformed ROS into a topclass Allround player which is probably the key reason for Ronnies longevity.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Wildey

Holden Chinaski wrote:
Wildey wrote:
at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible

Yes, but Ronnie did steamroll and humiliate the King at the 2004 and 2008 World championships where he destroyed him 17-4 and 17-6 at the Crucible.

Well he had to wait until he was past his best to do it.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Holden Chinaski

Wildey wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:
Wildey wrote:
at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible

Yes, but Ronnie did steamroll and humiliate the King at the 2004 and 2008 World championships where he destroyed him 17-4 and 17-6 at the Crucible.

Well he had to wait until he was past his best to do it.

Or Hendry could only beat Ronnie before Ronnie was in his prime.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Wildey

Holden Chinaski wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:
Wildey wrote:
at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible

Yes, but Ronnie did steamroll and humiliate the King at the 2004 and 2008 World championships where he destroyed him 17-4 and 17-6 at the Crucible.

Well he had to wait until he was past his best to do it.

Or Hendry could only beat Ronnie before Ronnie was in his prime.

Hendry has beaten both Ronnie and Higgins at the Crucible while they were defending World Champion.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby TheRocket

Holden Chinaski wrote:Hendry was only 35 in 2004. Should not be well past his prime. Love Hendry but that's way too young to be well past your prime.


Indeed. In fact Hendry was higher ranked than Ronnie and beat him in both matches they played (multi session matches) that season before they met at the Crucible. Many people expected it to be a close match. No one saw the slaughtering coming.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Cloud Strife

TheRocket wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:Hendry was only 35 in 2004. Should not be well past his prime. Love Hendry but that's way too young to be well past your prime.


Indeed. In fact Hendry was higher ranked than Ronnie and beat him in both matches they played (multi session matches) that season before they met at the Crucible. Many people expected it to be a close match. No one saw the slaughtering coming.


True. Hendry was also ranked world number 1 in 2006.

People act like he was some old man who could no longer hold a cue after the age of 30. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Wildey

Cloud Strife wrote:
TheRocket wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:Hendry was only 35 in 2004. Should not be well past his prime. Love Hendry but that's way too young to be well past your prime.


Indeed. In fact Hendry was higher ranked than Ronnie and beat him in both matches they played (multi session matches) that season before they met at the Crucible. Many people expected it to be a close match. No one saw the slaughtering coming.


True. Hendry was also ranked world number 1 in 2006.

People act like he was some old man who could no longer hold a cue after the age of 30. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

He was still up there because he was a great player, but he did not really play great stuff to get there it was all about reaching plenty of Quarter Finals.

Anyone who thinks Hendry still played great to reach that Semis in 2004 and 2008 needs to make some research he made just 10 centuries between 1st round 2004 and Semi Final 2008 in 5 years anyone who knows anything about Stephen Hendry at that time if the breaks not going in he was struggling.

Re: TOP 10 Snooker Players with the MOST Centurys From 1980-

Postby Johnny Bravo

Wildey wrote:Lets put this in to perspective

at the World Championship Stephen Hendry beat
Ronnie at 24 and 27
Mark Williams at 22, 25 and 34
John Higgins at 36

At the World Championship
Hendry 7-3 Class of 92

so he's definitely the KING of the Crucible

And out of all those times he beat them, in how many occasions did he win the title ?!
Let me tell you: just once, in 1999.
My point is that in the early 90's, Hendry only had 1 or 2 tough matches at the WC, now you have 4 or 5