by McManusFan » 18 Mar 2020 Read
My feeling is that fluking a second (or third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelfth, thirteenth, or fourteenth) red isn't too different from a fluke positional shot, which I've already decided would be too complicated to include, and may throw off the other data if I try. Still it's a tricky one, as that kind of luck can really change a frame.
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by Sauce321 » 18 Mar 2020 Read
You can have a slight variation of luck (flukes), depends on the style of play.
Then you have the same variation for lucky safety shots.
At the end, on the long run, at pro level, luck is insignificant.
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by Dan-cat » 18 Mar 2020 Read
Sauce321 wrote:You can have a slight variation of luck (flukes), depends on the style of play.
Then you have the same variation for lucky safety shots.
At the end, on the long run, at pro level, luck is insignificant.
And yet, one fluke can win a match, and in some cases a title. So how can it be insignificant?
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by Sauce321 » 18 Mar 2020 Read
Dan-cat wrote:Sauce321 wrote:You can have a slight variation of luck (flukes), depends on the style of play.
Then you have the same variation for lucky safety shots.
At the end, on the long run, at pro level, luck is insignificant.
And yet, one fluke can win a match, and in some cases a title. So how can it be insignificant?
True, but that's short term luck. A tier-2 player can sometimes win a ranking event (good draw, good form atm, a few flukes, short matches,...)
But at the end this player will retire with 1 ranking event, and luck has nothing to do about it.
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by Dan-cat » 18 Mar 2020 Read
I can think of two recently where Ronnie had flukes/fluked a snooker where he would have lost in the semis. Went onto to win the titles.
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by SnookerFan » 18 Mar 2020 Read
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by SnookerFan » 23 Apr 2020 Read
So, have we decided who the luckiest player of the 2020 Tour Championship was?
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by McManusFan » 24 Apr 2020 Read
SnookerFan wrote:So, have we decided who the luckiest player of the 2020 Tour Championship was?
Has to be Trump, just as we were about to uncover how his game is utterly dependent on flukes, the things goes and get cancelled. A coincidence? How convenient!
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by Holden Chinaski » 24 Apr 2020 Read
McManusFan wrote:SnookerFan wrote:So, have we decided who the luckiest player of the 2020 Tour Championship was?
Has to be Trump, just as we were about to uncover how his game is utterly dependent on flukes, the things goes and get cancels. A coincidence? How convenient!
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by SnookerFan » 24 Apr 2020 Read
McManusFan wrote:SnookerFan wrote:So, have we decided who the luckiest player of the 2020 Tour Championship was?
Has to be Trump, just as we were about to uncover how his game is utterly dependent on flukes, the things goes and get cancelled. A coincidence? How convenient!
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by McManusFan » 18 Jun 2020 Read
Are people still interested in doing this? If so I'll post a fluke submission template later on.
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by McManusFan » 21 Jun 2020 Read
I only counted one fluke in the whole Robbo vs Mags match.
Robertson vs Maguire
Frame 6 Robertson flukes red, score after fluke 1-5
Currently Robertson is simultaneously the most lucky person in the tournament and the only one eliminated.
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by SnookerFan » 21 Jun 2020 Read
McManusFan wrote:I only counted one fluke in the whole Robbo vs Mags match.
Robertson vs Maguire
Frame 6 Robertson flukes red, score after fluke 1-5
Currently Robertson is simultaneously the most lucky person in the tournament and the only one eliminated.
You'll have more to do today.
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by McManusFan » 21 Jun 2020 Read
SnookerFan wrote:McManusFan wrote:I only counted one fluke in the whole Robbo vs Mags match.
Robertson vs Maguire
Frame 6 Robertson flukes red, score after fluke 1-5
Currently Robertson is simultaneously the most lucky person in the tournament and the only one eliminated.
You'll have more to do today.
I suspect it'll be easier to count Judd's shots that aren't flukes.
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by Badsnookerplayer » 21 Jun 2020 Read
McManusFan wrote:SnookerFan wrote:McManusFan wrote:I only counted one fluke in the whole Robbo vs Mags match.
Robertson vs Maguire
Frame 6 Robertson flukes red, score after fluke 1-5
Currently Robertson is simultaneously the most lucky person in the tournament and the only one eliminated.
You'll have more to do today.
I suspect it'll be easier to count Judd's shots that aren't flukes.
Do you want me to do the evening session?
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by McManusFan » 21 Jun 2020 Read
Badsnookerplayer wrote:McManusFan wrote:SnookerFan wrote:McManusFan wrote:I only counted one fluke in the whole Robbo vs Mags match.
Robertson vs Maguire
Frame 6 Robertson flukes red, score after fluke 1-5
Currently Robertson is simultaneously the most lucky person in the tournament and the only one eliminated.
You'll have more to do today.
I suspect it'll be easier to count Judd's shots that aren't flukes.
Do you want me to do the evening session?
That'd be great, although as a bit of a Higgins fan I'll be watching the second session on catchup tomorrow anyway.
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by Badsnookerplayer » 21 Jun 2020 Read
McManusFan wrote:Badsnookerplayer wrote:McManusFan wrote:SnookerFan wrote:McManusFan wrote:I only counted one fluke in the whole Robbo vs Mags match.
Robertson vs Maguire
Frame 6 Robertson flukes red, score after fluke 1-5
Currently Robertson is simultaneously the most lucky person in the tournament and the only one eliminated.
You'll have more to do today.
I suspect it'll be easier to count Judd's shots that aren't flukes.
Do you want me to do the evening session?
That'd be great, although as a bit of a Higgins fan I'll be watching the second session on catchup tomorrow anyway.
You can check my data
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by McManusFan » 22 Jun 2020 Read
Trump vs Higgins flukes:
Frame 1
Trump 52-4 red (hit the wrong red first, possibly contentious)
Frame 6
Higgins 27-69 red (frame winning)
Frame 7
Trump 35-52 yellow (unwanted fluke)
Frame 12
Higgins 39-13 red (frame winning)
Total fluke standings thus far (flukes/frame):
Roberston* 1/14
Higgins* 2/13
Trump 2/13
*final fluke count
Thanks to BSP for counting assistance.
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by McManusFan » 23 Jun 2020 Read
Selby vs Yan Flukes:
Frame 9
Yan 71-31 Red (unwanted)
Selby 73-34 Yellow (won frame)
Frame 12
Selby 71-64 Black (respotted black)
Total fluke standings thus far (flukes/frame):
Roberston* 1/14
Higgins* 2/13
Trump 2/13
Yan* 1/15
Selby 2/15
*final fluke count
Higgins and Trump are currently tied for most fluked pots per frame.
Thanks as always to BSP for counting assistance.
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by Dan-cat » 23 Jun 2020 Read
This is an amazing thread. Brilliant!
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by Juddernaut88 » 23 Jun 2020 Read
Selby fluke on the black yesterday was crazy.
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by McManusFan » 23 Jun 2020 Read
Juddernaut88 wrote:Selby fluke on the black yesterday was crazy.
Yeah, Selby sounded pretty sheepish about it in the interview. Couple that with Yan's only 'fluke' being one that ended up loosing him the frame, and the match could easily have gone much closer.
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by McManusFan » 24 Jun 2020 Read
Allen vs Murphy Flukes
Frame 8
Murphy 28-58 Red (final red, won frame)
Frame 16
Murhpy 47-1 Red (no consequence)
Frame 17
Allen 1-0 Red (winning chance in decider)
Total fluke standings thus far (flukes/frame):
Roberston* 1/14
Higgins* 2/13
Trump 2/13
Yan* 1/15
Selby 2/15
Murphy* 2/17
Allen 1/17
*final fluke count
Higgins and Trump are currently tied for most fluked pots per frame. They are also officially the flukiest players of the quarter finals.
Thanks as always to BSP for counting assistance.
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by Juddernaut88 » 24 Jun 2020 Read
Realistically Selby and Mark Allen have been the luckiest. Selby fluked black in a re-spotted black which should count as double. Mark Allen has a huge fluke in a deciding frame which he took advantage of.
One of Judds flukes against Higgins was an unwanted one which left him in an awkward position.
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by HappyCamper » 24 Jun 2020 Read
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by Iranu » 24 Jun 2020 Read
Badsnookerplayer wrote:There is a thread for Kylie Minogue. Please use it.
You should be so lucky.
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by SnookerEd25 » 24 Jun 2020 Read
Juddernaut88 wrote:Realistically Selby and Mark Allen have been the luckiest. Selby fluked black in a re-spotted black which should count as double. Mark Allen has a huge fluke in a deciding frame which he took advantage of.
One of Judds flukes against Higgins was an unwanted one which left him in an awkward position.
I kind of agree about Mark Allen, but it was the first red at 0-0; he still had an awful lot to do & deserves respect for doing it.
For Murphy to make a bitchy comment about ‘fluking frame ball’ was a bit childish I thought (something I think about Shaun more than most other players)
Since when could the first red be construed as frame ball?
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by SnookerFan » 24 Jun 2020 Read
HappyCamper wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3_TvpBwSZDM
I had a dream that I met Kylie Minogue a few months ago. We decided to go for a pint, then when we were in the pub she decided to get everybody singing; "I should be so lucky."
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