World Series of Snooker
Any realistic chance that these events will come back from this? What are people's opinions?
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SnookerFan wrote:Is there any realistic plans that this will ever come back as a format? To be honest, I didn't mind watching it, despite a lot of the matches not being close. Though, it was poorly organised and going nowhere before the Higgins allegations.
Any realistic chance that these events will come back from this? What are people's opinions?
StalinESQ wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Is there any realistic plans that this will ever come back as a format? To be honest, I didn't mind watching it, despite a lot of the matches not being close. Though, it was poorly organised and going nowhere before the Higgins allegations.
Any realistic chance that these events will come back from this? What are people's opinions?
I hope we have seen the last of this muck.
gallantrabbit wrote:I think Hearny was planning to incorporate it in PTC anyway. He said that he wanted to use it as a battering ram to get into countries. Higgins only started it because the board at the time was doing NOTHING.
Sick of the Higgins story now. Give him a fine for being super naive and let's get on with it. Burnett did far worse in front of the tv cameras and NOTHING has happened to him.
StalinESQ wrote:Muck
SnookerFan wrote:StalinESQ wrote:Muck
Explain to me why?
gallantrabbit wrote:I think Hearny was planning to incorporate it in PTC anyway. He said that he wanted to use it as a battering ram to get into countries. Higgins only started it because the board at the time was doing NOTHING.
Sick of the Higgins story now. Give him a fine for being super naive and let's get on with it. Burnett did far worse in front of the tv cameras and NOTHING has happened to him.
StalinESQ wrote:SnookerFan wrote:StalinESQ wrote:Muck
Explain to me why?
the whole concept.................
messing with the game (sometimes 10 reds), playing pros vs local amateurs (no appeal to me), playing in venues that do not fill (not always the case but it did happen)....................... not ranking, not proper snooker
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SnookerFan wrote:Is there any realistic plans that this will ever come back as a format? To be honest, I didn't mind watching it, despite a lot of the matches not being close. Though, it was poorly organised and going nowhere before the Higgins allegations.
Any realistic chance that these events will come back from this? What are people's opinions?
wildJONESEYE wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Is there any realistic plans that this will ever come back as a format? To be honest, I didn't mind watching it, despite a lot of the matches not being close. Though, it was poorly organised and going nowhere before the Higgins allegations.
Any realistic chance that these events will come back from this? What are people's opinions?
its being played this season and called EPTC with Ranking points on offer.
this was always the plan for the World Series whatever happened with Higgins and Mooney.
SnookerFan wrote:
The ten reds, I agree with you. Though I did enjoy the six-reds tournament I did watch, I wanted it limited to a once a year deal. 15 reds or nothing, for me.
But that's the only point for which I agree. If anything, I think the pros vs local amateurs isn't too bad a concept. They are only exhibition matches anyway, so what's the problem? You get the next day with the winners of these matches playing each other, so end up with pro-vs-pro the majority of times anyway, unless one of the amateurs was good enough to spring an upset. We've reached a point now, where there seems to be a lot more emphasis on pro-ams then ever before. Personally, I don't think having amateurs play in rankers is the way forward. But having pro-am non-ranking tournaments are a fantastic idea. Like I've said before, I think in an ideal world we would've kept the Grand Prix as a ranker, and stuck the World Open as a non-ranker around November time as an invitational event. Nothing wrong with trying to expand the fan-base in Europe.
The fact that it is non-ranking doesn't appeal to you? I take it The Masters didn't appeal to you either then? Nothing wrong at all in my eyes in exhibition tournaments, as long as they don't replace proper ranking tournaments. The Seniors World Championship is going to be the same.
The tournaments being in half-full arenas isn't good. But The Crucible aside, what tournament doesn't that apply to these days? At least at times.
No, these tournaments aren't as good as rankers. But I found ideas like these more interesting then shitty Power Snooker, as long as they are 15-reds.
gallantrabbit wrote:Stalin if Hearn had come in and just tried to promote big time ranking events in theatres around England he would have lasted five minutes. You might not like all this stuff but it's the price we have to pay for allowing the game to slipdeep down.
We don't have the amateur pool we used to but don't diss the amateurs too much. There are a lot of good lads out there.
StalinESQ wrote:SnookerFan wrote:
The ten reds, I agree with you. Though I did enjoy the six-reds tournament I did watch, I wanted it limited to a once a year deal. 15 reds or nothing, for me.
But that's the only point for which I agree. If anything, I think the pros vs local amateurs isn't too bad a concept. They are only exhibition matches anyway, so what's the problem? You get the next day with the winners of these matches playing each other, so end up with pro-vs-pro the majority of times anyway, unless one of the amateurs was good enough to spring an upset. We've reached a point now, where there seems to be a lot more emphasis on pro-ams then ever before. Personally, I don't think having amateurs play in rankers is the way forward. But having pro-am non-ranking tournaments are a fantastic idea. Like I've said before, I think in an ideal world we would've kept the Grand Prix as a ranker, and stuck the World Open as a non-ranker around November time as an invitational event. Nothing wrong with trying to expand the fan-base in Europe.
The fact that it is non-ranking doesn't appeal to you? I take it The Masters didn't appeal to you either then? Nothing wrong at all in my eyes in exhibition tournaments, as long as they don't replace proper ranking tournaments. The Seniors World Championship is going to be the same.
The tournaments being in half-full arenas isn't good. But The Crucible aside, what tournament doesn't that apply to these days? At least at times.
No, these tournaments aren't as good as rankers. But I found ideas like these more interesting then shitty Power Snooker, as long as they are 15-reds.
I will not tolerate 5 red, 10 red or any other bastardisation (shot clocks included) - FACT.
Pro-ams might be good at generating interest but that does not mean its attractive to watch (for me anyway). I have to be watching 2 pros go at it. I think the World Open is a great idea as it provides a necessary carrot to dangle in front of the amateurs. I certainly would not go to watch an exhibition or anything with pros vs amateurs.
The Masters is part of snooker tradition, its elite field means you tend to get a good standard, but its not my favourite tourney (not even close).
Seniors World Champs is in the same boat as PTC........................ not on the radar.
StalinESQ wrote:gallantrabbit wrote:Stalin if Hearn had come in and just tried to promote big time ranking events in theatres around England he would have lasted five minutes. You might not like all this stuff but it's the price we have to pay for allowing the game to slipdeep down.
We don't have the amateur pool we used to but don't diss the amateurs too much. There are a lot of good lads out there.
Not dissing them, but equally I would not want to go out and watch them either.