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Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

http://www.premierleaguesnooker.com/fixtures.htm

2010 PartyCasino.com Premier League Snooker

(all events run from 7.30pm to 11pm apart from the one in Preston on September 30. This begins at 6pm and finishes at 11pm)

Week 1 - September 2 - Southampton Guidhall
Shaun Murphy v Ding Junhui, Ronnie O'Sullivan v Marco Fu

Week 2 - September 16 - Plymouth Pavilions
Mark Selby v Mark Williams, Ronnie O'Sullivan v Ding Junhui

Week 3 - September 30 - Preston Guild Hall
Marco Fu v Shaun Murphy, Ding Junhui v Mark Williams, Neil Robertson v Mark Selby

Week 4 - October 7 - Brentwood Leisure Centre, Essex
Mark Selby v Ding Junhui, Ronnie O'Sullivan v Shaun Murphy

Week 5 - October 14 - Inverness Leisure Centre
Mark Selby v Marco Fu, Neil Robertson v Mark Williams

Week 6 - October 21 - Spiceball Leisure Centre, Banbury, Oxfordshire
Neil Robertson v Ding Junhui, Marco Fu v Mark Williams

Week 7 - October 28 - Penrith Leisure Centre
Marco Fu v Ding Junhui, Ronnie O'Sullivan v Mark Williams

Week 8 - November 4 - Hutton Moor Leisure Centre
Marco Fu v Neil Robertson, Shaun Murphy v Mark Selby

Week 9 - Nov 11 - Grimsby Auditorium
Shaun Murphy v Mark Williams, Ronnie O'Sullivan v Neil Robertson

Week 10 - November 18 - Venue Cymru, Llandudno, Wales
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Mark Selby, Shaun Murphy v Neil Robertson

Semi-finals Nov 27 Potters Leisure Resort, Hopton on Sea, Norfolk
Semi-finals are the first to five.
1st v 4th
and 2nd v 3rd
http://www.pottersholidays.com

Final - Nov 28 - Potters Leisure Resort, Hopton on Sea, Norfolk
The final is the first to seven.
Winner of semi-final 1 v winner of semi-final 2.
http://www.pottersholidays.com


The Premier League 2010 players: Ronnie O'Sullivan, Shaun Murphy, Neil Robertson, Ding Junhui, Mark Selby, Mark J. Williams and Marco Fu.
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Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

that is a great line up lets be honest ok Marco there but hes the only one that Qualified so fair play but the others are well Deserved.

you do get the feeling it was a case of Mark Williams instead of John Higgins in the final analysis to add a mixture of Youth and Multi experience to the field.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

Bourne wrote:Why is O'Sullivan in bold once ?

good question it does look out of place somehow..

i might make it to venue cymru great matches in prospect there ..

some needle in both matches i think.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

anyway sonny whatever we think of the timing regarding John i think we will agree on it being a Great Line up

Selby not playing last year was a travesty after playing so well and reaching the final in 2008 ...Ding always has something Special in the PL and Mark Williams last PL Match was the Final of the inaugural Shot clock PL in 2005 where he lost 6-0 to Ronnie so he deserves another chance and 5 years later its come.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

Bourne wrote:Why is O'Sullivan in bold once ?


Very simply because I cut and pasted this from ROS forum to several other places. On ROS for obvious reasons his fixtures are highlighted. On other forums I removed the bold highlighting... I just "missed" that occurrence of "bold". So it's my bad.
Corrected now.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

Monique wrote:
Bourne wrote:Why is O'Sullivan in bold once ?


Very simply because I cut and pasted this from ROS forum to several other places. On ROS for obvious reasons his fixtures are highlighted. On other forums I removed the bold highlighting... I just "missed" that occurrence of "bold". So it's my bad.
Corrected now.


i see ..

at first i thought you would be in llandudno watching that match lol

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

Looking at the calendar for this season again and at PL fixtures I see a bit of a problem there. On 7 occasions the PL is happening just the day before a PTC or EPTC. Actually it's the case for 5 of the EPTCs. How are the players involved in PL supposed to make it? The EPTCs are only 3 days so you can expect the matches to start early. The draw isn't known much in advance and is random. PL is usually finishing around 11 pm, so unlikely they still can make it on that evening.
Let's take the PL in Grimsby for instance: it's featuring Williams, Murphy, Ronnie and Robbo. EPTC5 in Hamm is taking place the next day. Grimsby isn't anywhere near an airport (closest is Manchester I think) and to go to Hamm they have to fly to Dusseldorf then take a train or a car to Hamm (they traveled by train when we got there for exos) distance must be some 60 km. So that means Grimsby-Manchester possibly by car, Manchester - London flight, London - Dusseldorf flight and Dusseldorf - Hamm transport. Doesn't seem doable, considering waiting times in airports, connexions and all unless arrangements are made so that none of them play on the friday before evening. And they will be shattered before they even start.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

i have said through last season the PL in it current state was a hindrance to adding new tournaments and there we are they should now play PL like it used to be on weekends Saturday and Sunday playing 4 matches.

one thing ill say the PTC isnt designed for all players to appear all the time and Barry Hearn as organizer of both events would know that when putting together the calender.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Casey

wildJONESEYE wrote:i have said through last season the PL in it current state was a hindrance to adding new tournaments and there we are they should now play PL like it used to be on weekends Saturday and Sunday playing 4 matches.

one thing ill say the PTC isnt designed for all players to appear all the time and Barry Hearn as organizer of both events would know that when putting together the calender.


:chin:

Difficult one this, monving the PL matches to Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday nights is probably not the best option to attract the crowd. Its a difficult one and Barry will have to give it plenty of thought considering some of his remarks regarding Bahrain.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

as i said the PTC is not designed for all players to appear all the time Fixtures will not be changed but i think for future years if more tournaments going to be added a Re Think has to take place with the PL.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Casey

wildJONESEYE wrote:as i said the PTC is not designed for all players to appear all the time Fixtures will not be changed but i think for future years if more tournaments going to be added a Re Think has to take place with the PL.


Its still the same principle, players playing in the PL on those nights will have to miss the opportunity for ranking points and prize money, all be it on a smaller scale. It will be interesting to hear what Barry has to say about it :huh2:

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

i think he will say what ive said but yes i agree not having much choice to go or not to go isnt fair.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Casey

wildJONESEYE wrote:i think he will say what ive said but yes i agree not having much choice to go or not to go isnt fair.


Well then he would be a hypocrite. It was 4000pts for the winner of Bahrain and its 2000 for the winner of the individual events. It’s exactly the same situation as the Bahrain farce, unless its changed and that might well happen.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

Well I don't see why moving PL to another week day would make a difference. People are working on Friday and kids go to school. So? This would probably be the quickest fix but it means reshuffling sky's broadcast schedule. It's clearly not an option for this season anyway.
Maybe part of the solution would be to spread the PL over the whole season, avoiding clashes, and get rid of the qualifying event or play it in a more compact schedule at the same time as the "Qualifying School" events. Chances the same players are involved in both is nil IMO.
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Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Casey

Monique wrote:Well I don't see why moving PL to another week day would make a difference. People are working on Friday and kids go to school. So? This would probably be the quickest fix but it means reshuffling sky's broadcast schedule. It's clearly not an option for this season anyway.
Maybe part of the solution would be to spread the PL over the whole season, avoiding clashes, and get rid of the qualifying event or play it in a more compact shedule at the same time as the "Qualifying School" events. Chances the same players are involved in both is nil IMO.


I was thinking of people traveling to the event, Friday is usually a better day to get off. However looking at it again, moving the day shouldn't be a big issue. What will happen for this season though? Its unfair to ask players to miss out because of the PL, no different than it was to ask them to miss Bahrain. If this isn't sorted I can't see how Barry can explain this away given his comment two years ago.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

Monique wrote:Well I don't see why moving PL to another week day would make a difference. People are working on Friday and kids go to school. So? This would probably be the quickest fix but it means reshuffling sky's broadcast schedule. It's clearly not an option for this season anyway.
Maybe part of the solution would be to spread the PL over the whole season, avoiding clashes, and get rid of the qualifying event or play it in a more compact shedule at the same time as the "Qualifying School" events. Chances the same players are involved in both is nil IMO.


how about using the PTC as a qualifying for the PL the highest place person on the PTC order of merit that doesent get in as of Right and use the Betting site Streaming contract they use for the Championship League for the PTC everyone happy lol

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Casey

wildJONESEYE wrote:
Monique wrote:Well I don't see why moving PL to another week day would make a difference. People are working on Friday and kids go to school. So? This would probably be the quickest fix but it means reshuffling sky's broadcast schedule. It's clearly not an option for this season anyway.
Maybe part of the solution would be to spread the PL over the whole season, avoiding clashes, and get rid of the qualifying event or play it in a more compact shedule at the same time as the "Qualifying School" events. Chances the same players are involved in both is nil IMO.


how about using the PTC as a qualifying for the PL the highest place person on the PTC order of merit that doesent get in as of Right and use the Betting site Streaming contract they use for the Championship League for the PTC everyone happy lol


:chin: :chin:

Not a bad idea actually, then you could spread the PL out a bit more in place of the CL. Although I am sure Sky would put a spanner in this somewhere

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

or Play the PTC More mid season instead of the Championship League.

there are some PTC you could play on a friday when the PL on a thursday but going to europe is tricky.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

whatever they will do or cant do isnt it great as a snooker fan not having enough free weeks in a year lol

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

Traveling in UK might prove tricky also depending on location, connexions and weather. Playing in Inverness on the Thursday evening and being in Sheffield ready to play at 10 am next morning doesn't look doable neither.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

Monique wrote:Traveling in UK might prove tricky also depending on location, connexions and weather. Playing in Inverness on the Thursday evening and being in Sheffield ready to play at 10 am next morning doesn't look doable neither.


yes but regarding time they can wangle it that they play the PTC 3rd or even 4th match on.

yes not great traveling from London or Scotland to sheffield but they could go from Preston to Sheffield or Manchester for a 1.00 pm start

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby N_Castle07

All this after the fuss Baz made about Bahrain. And as Mon said this effects the EPTC not the normal UK ones. Not good not good. But things are on the up and we can expect some teething probs.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

N_Castle07 wrote:All this after the fuss Baz made about Bahrain. And as Mon said this effects the EPTC not the normal UK ones. Not good not good. But things are on the up and we can expect some teething probs.


yes but Hendry can make up ground in europe ;)

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

Janie Watkins tells me people have raised the question about those "clashes", that are in fact nearly clashes but might actually prevent players to play in some events. Most probably will in fact. There isn't much that can be done for now but I'm sure there will be some thinking done to try and solve the issue. The only possibility for now is to make sure players involve in PL play at the latest possible schedule if they have to play on the next day.
I think the fuss Barry Hearn made about Bahrain was mainly linked to the fact WPBSA hadn't talked with any one before introducing a mandatory event well after the calendar had been agreed and commitments made by other actors, including players, on that basis. Today's situation is not good but at least everyone knows about it and can manage their season accordingly.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby N_Castle07

It's amazing if you had of said 12 month ago that in 1 years time the calendar would create clashes and players would have to choose events to play in i wouldn't of believed it. Good times for snooker.

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Wildey

N_Castle07 wrote:It's amazing if you had of said 12 month ago that in 1 years time the calendar would create clashes and players would have to choose events to play in i wouldn't of believed it. Good times for snooker.


I Dont see it as a disapointing problam as you say i see it as a nice problam to have :D

Re: Premier League 2010 - Fixtures

Postby Monique

He has already made arrangements for Jimmy when he had to play in the "Snooker Legends" by rescheduling his first matches. That's the only possibility I see. If one (or several) of the PL players has (have) to play on the Friday, to push their matches as late as the organisation of the event allows to. But they will nevertheless be shattered.