Re: Ladbrokes World Grand Prix Quarter Finals !!!
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Pink Ball wrote:Boys, your issue shouldn't be with pensioners, it should be with the hip youngsters who can build big breaks but couldn't tactic their way out of a paper bag.
Pink Ball wrote:Boys, your issue shouldn't be with pensioners, it should be with the hip youngsters who can build big breaks but couldn't tactic their way out of a paper bag.
mantorok wrote:Pink Ball wrote:Boys, your issue shouldn't be with pensioners, it should be with the hip youngsters who can build big breaks but couldn't tactic their way out of a paper bag.
The sport is heading in the completely wrong direction, Hendry pioneered the modern game, followed by ROS, MJW & the likes of Higgins, Hunter etc. Now we're going backwards into the 80s game.
Sure, there's still a lot of breakbuilding but in order to win these days you have to be willing to slog it out in a game of chess, and yeah I appreciate that's hardcore snooker but to the audience it drags on too long.
The modern game should focus on long potting and one-visit breaks to create a nice consistent flow to the game, not stop-start snooker with the winner emerging completely exhausted and only claiming victory through intense, boring, grinding late hour safety play.
It's a shame it's going backwards.
SnookerFan wrote:Pink Ball wrote:Boys, your issue shouldn't be with pensioners, it should be with the hip youngsters who can build big breaks but couldn't tactic their way out of a paper bag.
I actually agree with this. People seem to act like the old 'uns are doing something wrong in turning up and trying to win. How dare they?
I've always said that it's up to the youngsters to come in, and retire the old guard. It's not for the old guard to stand aside and let the young players win. Nobody benefits from that.
Title wins should be earned, and if the youngsters aren't capable of winning it, that's their problem. Nobody benefits if a player is winning stuff, because their older opponent is taking it easy on them.
Pink Ball wrote:Those days weren't all wham bam thank you mam either. Sullivan, Williams and Higgins could all build breaks, but they'd a hell of a safety game too.
Who have the best three players of the generation that followed? Selby, Ding and Robertson - who can all mix it tactically as well as build breaks.
If these excellent young potters and break builders had a safety game, they'd breeze past the pensioners WITHOUT having to be all that boring. But they don't learn.
That's why I'm impressed by Bingtao. He is very sharp and can build breaks - for a 16 year old, his results have already been promising.
Pink Ball wrote:Those days weren't all wham bam thank you mam either. Sullivan, Williams and Higgins could all build breaks, but they'd a hell of a safety game too.
mantorok wrote:Pink Ball wrote:Those days weren't all wham bam thank you mam either. Sullivan, Williams and Higgins could all build breaks, but they'd a hell of a safety game too.
Higgins could run rings around the other two in the safety department, Williams was a pure potter, ROS too but with probably a better safety game back then. They're now efficient safety players because they need to be.
It's just a shame that's where the bread and butter is heading, for the future of the sport no kid is going to be sitting at home wishing he could play safety like those guys, nah, they see all the potting and positional play, that's what gets their blood going, not seeing how many times they can glue the cue-ball to the top cushion.
mantorok wrote:I remember when Ding first burst on to the scene, he was very much like the new crop we're seeing now, he was potting them off the lampshades, he showed no fear, I don't think he had much of a safety game due to his potting prowess.
Now look at him, another robot like the rest of them, the boy can still play but he's far too conservative now, he seems deflated and bored with the way he has to play now in order to win.
This type of play is dominating the sport too much, Hendry must despise the direction it's heading, and I don't blame him.
Even Hearn can't spruce this sport up, as much as he's tried.
mantorok wrote:I remember when Ding first burst on to the scene, he was very much like the new crop we're seeing now, he was potting them off the lampshades, he showed no fear, I don't think he had much of a safety game due to his potting prowess.
Now look at him, another robot like the rest of them, the boy can still play but he's far too conservative now, he seems deflated and bored with the way he has to play now in order to win.
This type of play is dominating the sport too much, Hendry must despise the direction it's heading, and I don't blame him.
Even Hearn can't spruce this sport up, as much as he's tried.
Pink Ball wrote:Ding has always had a strong safety game; Ebdon guided him along his early days, and it showed straight away. When he burst on to the scene he was an all-round player, hugely impressive.
No way was Williams an out and out potter, he was an excellent safety player, and I strongly disagree that Higgins ran rings around Williams and Sullivan in that department. Sullivan was the best safety player in the world for a time in the mid-noughties IMO.
SnookerFan wrote:I refer you to the Masters final of 2007.
SnookerFan wrote:Remember when I raved about Lu Ning, after one game?
Is he even still playing?
Andre147 wrote:Nice start from Day, hardly missing a ball. 2-0 up already.
LC wrote:Andre147 wrote:Nice start from Day, hardly missing a ball. 2-0 up already.
Did miss crucial balls in both frames when leading by over 50 points in both frames, but Murphy botched the chances he had
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SnookerFan wrote:Remember when I raved about Lu Ning, after one game?
Is he even still playing?
mantorok wrote:SnookerFan wrote:I refer you to the Masters final of 2007.
Wasn't there racial insults being thrown?