Player of the Year 2014
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AC or LT? wrote:Selby and Walden
Cannonball wrote:How anyone can vote for anyone other than Ronnie is beyond me. Really, who clocks the 147s, wins the titles, got to the final of the Worlds, led it, and gave it to Selby. Who votes for Selby?
Muppet147 wrote:Cannonball wrote:How anyone can vote for anyone other than Ronnie is beyond me. Really, who clocks the 147s, wins the titles, got to the final of the Worlds, led it, and gave it to Selby. Who votes for Selby?
I voted for Selby. But he was my second choice, with O'Sullivan being my first.
Cannonball wrote:How anyone can vote for anyone other than Ronnie is beyond me. Really, who clocks the 147s, wins the titles, got to the final of the Worlds, led it, and gave it to Selby. Who votes for Selby?
Wildey wrote:Ive gone for Ronnie and Judd .
Judd Trump has been consistent with performances of late and if it wasent for my first choice Ronnie his CV Would have been Better much better.
Mark Selby has flopped a bit as a player and really the World Championship was the only highlight of a pretty miserable year for Selby professionally .
vodkadiet wrote:Cannonball wrote:How anyone can vote for anyone other than Ronnie is beyond me. Really, who clocks the 147s, wins the titles, got to the final of the Worlds, led it, and gave it to Selby. Who votes for Selby?
The world title is worth more than all the other combined. And the manner in which Selby won makes him all the more worthy winner of this accolade. Lest we forget, Selby had everything against him in that final. O'Sullivan had won it 5 times before, he had a day off before the final, contrast to Selby who was shattered, having played 2 long arduous sessions the day before the final. He also gave O'Sullivan a 5 frame start, before winning 13 out of the last 17 frames. A quite phenomenal achievement. The best victory of all time in fact.
shankly wrote:Selby doesn't have to prove anything to anyone anymore. He's probably the player of his generation -- certainly if you're going by achievements in the game.
I'd say winning the World title puts Selby's season above Trump/Ding without question, it is the big one and in my eyes it does count for that much. However, Masters+Uk+CoC+Welsh+2 maxis>>Worlds, everyday.
To be honest don't really understand people voting for Trump. I know he is playing the best snooker most consistently this season, but at the end of the day he's fallen short at the final hurdle and hasn't won enough.
ICannonball wrote:Selby only won the Worlds because Ronnie gave it to him. Ding, Robertson and Trump are much better snooker players. We all know this.
The Selby decline began two years ago. Hendry was toast at 30, and the likes of Selby (31) can look forward to a dramatic decline, because they certainly lack the talent of Hendry, Robertson, Trump and Ding.
vodkadiet wrote:ICannonball wrote:Selby only won the Worlds because Ronnie gave it to him. Ding, Robertson and Trump are much better snooker players. We all know this.
The Selby decline began two years ago. Hendry was toast at 30, and the likes of Selby (31) can look forward to a dramatic decline, because they certainly lack the talent of Hendry, Robertson, Trump and Ding.
Rigsby gave it to him? I could argue that all of Rigsby's titles have been handed it to him. Superflous argument.
Ask O'Sullivan if he would rather have won the worlds than the titles he has won?
Andre147 wrote:vodkadiet wrote:ICannonball wrote:Selby only won the Worlds because Ronnie gave it to him. Ding, Robertson and Trump are much better snooker players. We all know this.
The Selby decline began two years ago. Hendry was toast at 30, and the likes of Selby (31) can look forward to a dramatic decline, because they certainly lack the talent of Hendry, Robertson, Trump and Ding.
Rigsby gave it to him? I could argue that all of Rigsby's titles have been handed it to him. Superflous argument.
Ask O'Sullivan if he would rather have won the worlds than the titles he has won?
You talk as if all the other titles mean absolutely nothing and only the Worlds is important. Hendry or Davis wouldn't be the same players they are today if they had only won 7 and 6 World Titles in their careers, respectively, and nothing else. Every title is important, some more than others, but every single title, ranking or not, defines a player's career.
Selby can in no way be considered the Best Player this Year because he "only" won the Worlds, ok it's the most important title of all and the hardest to win, BUT Ronnie also won 4 other titles, plus reaching that World Final, titles which were the Masters, Welsh Open, CoC and UK Champs. Player of the Year means consistency over a whole year, if no player had won more than one big title this year, then sure Selby would have no doubt been the best player, but because of Ronnie's consistency he earns that Best Player this year by a country mile.
According to an earlier post of yours, a player "only" has to win the Worlds to be considered the best player that year right? Then would you say Ronnie was the Best Player of 2013 because after an year out he came to the Worlds and won it? Of course he can't be the best player that year, and I'm sure you would agree on that, but just because it was Selby winning it this year he suddently becomes the Best Player of it. Absolute nonsense that is. That only means 17 days of consistency, not consistency over a whole year.
Sure if given the option I would maybe trade this titles for that Worlds this year, but then according to your brilliant logic if Ronnie were in Selby's shoes and had won the Worlds, and Selby had won everything Ronnie did this year then Ronnie would be the best player of it right? Of course not, you only say it because it's Selby and your blindness hates the fact that Ronnie won big titles this year.
You can say all the hell you want like Selby won the most important title this year by beating Ronnie, but fact remains Ronnie won the 2 other Triple Crown events, plus 2 other big events and like I said at the beggining a player's career is defined by everything they have won, Hendry is still the one with most rankers with 36 and 29 of those weren't World Titles. Does that mean they don't count? of course not, every single title is important, so I say it again one last time they define a player's whole career.
This is a warning goading other members to react with idiotic posts like that will never be tolerated on snooker island.
Heed that warning over Christmas because come january your days on here are numbered unless you take notice.