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Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby roy142857

Clara8633 wrote:Why is Bingham always so successful again Ding?


Wish I could answer that! For certain Bingham respects but doesn't fear him, you can see that from his attitude, gets in there and gets on with the job. But surely Bingham these days is treating everyone that way?

Anyone know generally if the players themselves get an idea of why they do well or struggle against a particular player?

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

Thursday 23rd of October

Approx 12pm

Quarter Finals
Ding Junhui 0-4 Stuart Bingham
Matthew Selt 4-3 Peter Ebdon
Tian Pengfei 2-4 Jimmy Robertson
Oliver Lines 4-2 Ryan Day

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

Friday 24th of October

3am

Semi Finals
Stuart Bingham v Matthew Selt
Jimmy Robertson v Oliver Lines


9am

Final
Stuart Bingham/Matthew Selt v Jimmy Robertson/Oliver Lines

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

Oliver Lines has put himself in to a very strong position to get in to the Grand Finals he reached the last 16 in Yixing and now the Semi Finals here, that gives himself 3,500 points with only 1 event to go.

Top 8 on this order of Merit gets in to the Grand Finals end of March 2015.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Clara8633

roy142857 wrote:
Clara8633 wrote:Why is Bingham always so successful again Ding?


Wish I could answer that! For certain Bingham respects but doesn't fear him, you can see that from his attitude, gets in there and gets on with the job. But surely Bingham these days is treating everyone that way?

Anyone know generally if the players themselves get an idea of why they do well or struggle against a particular player?


My guess is that Ding doesn't play well against Bingham because he is afraid of him, and Bingham plays well against Ding because he knows that Ding fears him. So that might be why Ding has lost against him 5 times in a row and hasn't beaten him for 3 years. Or is there a simpler explanation about this?

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Clara8633

Ding just won't win against Bingham, and this time it was 4-0 so I think there's a reason to it.

I didn't know that Ding used to be scared of Murphy; did he admit it himself or is it just obvious when you're watching them play?

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Roland

It was obvious that he didn't play his normal game against Murphy, he was intimidated by his potting I think but eventually got his measure. Don't forget Bingham is a hot and cold type of player capable of turning over every big name in the game when he's buzzing, and his form has been at a sustained level over the last 12 months or so.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

Roland wrote:Well there was a time when he seemed to be scared of Murphy but found a way to beat him.

it does seem like Ding finds away to be scared of players on a consistent basis.

as one of the greatest players he shouldn't be scared of anyone.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

How much audience members has nothing to do with the status of the event more to do with the location/prize of tickets.

a tour in any sport has bigger and smaller events you cant have a pro tour with about 8 World Championships that would distract from the prestige of the bigger events.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

fantastic performance from Oli Lines he is now guaranteed to be in the Player Tour championship Grand Finals and if he wins today he will also be in the Champion of Champions as well pushing out Ali Carter.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Clara8633

Wildey wrote:fantastic performance from Oli Lines he is now guaranteed to be in the Player Tour championship Grand Finals and if he wins today he will also be in the Champion of Champions as well pushing out Ali Carter.


Amazing to think that a one-year professional could be playing in the CoC - has it happened before?

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

gcjdavid wrote:Bingo now 2-0 up against Oli Lines.

So, by now, what do you think are the chances of Oli winning?

Bingham is a class act and won a Asian Tour event before ......Oli has nothing to lose hes done extremely well and has outdone his dad by reaching a Pro Final.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby AC or LT?

Wildey wrote:How much audience members has nothing to do with the status of the event more to do with the location/prize of tickets.

a tour in any sport has bigger and smaller events you cant have a pro tour with about 8 World Championships that would distract from the prestige of the bigger events.


No-ones suggesting doing that, just scrap the PTCs and hold more full ranking events.

Re: Haining China Leather City Open (AT 2) Discussion !!!

Postby Wildey

AC or LT? wrote:
Wildey wrote:How much audience members has nothing to do with the status of the event more to do with the location/prize of tickets.

a tour in any sport has bigger and smaller events you cant have a pro tour with about 8 World Championships that would distract from the prestige of the bigger events.


No-ones suggesting doing that, just scrap the PTCs and hold more full ranking events.

Why?

i think at the moment tournament wise the Tour is perfect you need these feeder events that will give the likes of Oli Lines confidence going forward with his career.