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Hossein Vafaei Ayouri refused UK Visa for 4th time

Postby roy142857

Information from Snooker Thailand, who give their rather blistering opinion of the UK along with a call for the World Championship to be moved out of the UK sometime in the future.

"Hossein Vafaei IBSF World Champion 2011 from Iran is still having problems to get a visa for England . His reply for a visa to be able to play snooker on the Main Tour has been denied already 4 times by the authorities
Hossein Vafaei has been granted a spot on the Main Tour but is not allowed to play because he do not get the visa.
Knowing very well the situation in England where the Immigration is very powerful this is a real shame . A young sportsman who is qualified for the Main Tour and who only wants to play at the highest level and who will cost NOTHING to the tax payers is being refused ?
You can admit every country has his own laws even strict ones but in the case of the UK this is really hilarious such a decision for several reasons .
First The UK has not a clue how many people exactly live on their island they cannot say it on a few millions correct. They see coastal cities growing rapidly and then they are wondering how it is possible and why so many not speak English. The answer a freight line between UK and Europe .
Yes hilarious because every day hundreds illegals enter the country
Their immigration and asylum laws providing free housing ,free medical treatment ,monthly social security payment etc cost the tax payer yearly a huge sum but a sportsman who will cost no money to the tax payers and just want to play snooker oh no that is not possible to give him a visa .
And Vafaei is not the first snookerplayer missing tournaments because of visa .
There are only 128 players on the Main Tour and most of them are European nationals . Is it so difficult for the British embassies to provide visas for the few snooker players who need visa and are qualified for the Main Tour . This can be very easy checked with World snooker .
Can you imagine that Argentinia has to play in England and Messi has to stay home because they do not give him a visa ?
How can you talk about a WORLD championship when you deny and obstruct players from other countries to participate and qualify Theoretically Vafae could have qualified for the Crucible if they gave him visa and allowed him to play and purely theoretically he also could have won the World Championship
Maybe another argument to move the World Championships in future to another country who has more logical sense in this matter ."

Re: Hossein Vafaei Ayouri refused UK Visa for 4th time

Postby Roland

It's stupid. There are entrants of distinction in Q School who have also been refused visas and as a consequence won't get on the tour. Hearn should lobby Parliament or something, it's just ridiculous.

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Postby Wildey

Sonny wrote:It's stupid. There are entrants of distinction in Q School who have also been refused visas and as a consequence won't get on the tour. Hearn should lobby Parliament or something, it's just ridiculous.

something needs doing and unless something is done china will insist in the World Tour being based in china including the WC or they will withdraw the millions they pour in to the sport

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Postby Ayrshirebhoy

Wildey wrote:
Sonny wrote:It's stupid. There are entrants of distinction in Q School who have also been refused visas and as a consequence won't get on the tour. Hearn should lobby Parliament or something, it's just ridiculous.

something needs doing and unless something is done china will insist in the World Tour being based in china including the WC or they will withdraw the millions they pour in to the sport


Wc should be moved anyway. Wanting to keep a 900 capacity venue that only been used 40 years lacks ambition.

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Postby Wildey

Ayrshirebhoy wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Sonny wrote:It's stupid. There are entrants of distinction in Q School who have also been refused visas and as a consequence won't get on the tour. Hearn should lobby Parliament or something, it's just ridiculous.

something needs doing and unless something is done china will insist in the World Tour being based in china including the WC or they will withdraw the millions they pour in to the sport


Wc should be moved anyway. Wanting to keep a 900 capacity venue that only been used 40 years lacks ambition.

you cant re create history, atmosphere and the feel the crucible gives to the World Championship but its easy to find a bigger venue they are two a penny.

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Postby Ayrshirebhoy

Granted iv never been so my opinion is one sided but if all the players had a secret ballot to play at either the crucible or a bigger venue with double prize money I wonder what the result would be?

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Postby Smart

I had an argument in the past week regarding immigration. The subject of the European elections came up and this couple stated they were voting UKIP based on the immigration issue. I said that I could not justify voting on solely one issue, especially for a party that has very little chance of being elected (imo). It got a bit heated and I suggested that if they felt that strong they should not be voting for UKIP but the BNP. They then said they already had in the past - a very awkward moment then occurred when I informed them I have Indian relations and half cast nephews / nieces.

The silly thing is the UKIP voters mentioned above would be the first to complain if the NHS was tampered with or the roads were never repaired. You cant vote on one issue, its irresponsible to do so. <ok>

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Postby Smart

Cloud Strife wrote:Is UKIP really racist or is that how they are being portrayed in the media? No doubt it has attracted some racist elements though.


There is good and bad in everything. No doubt some UKIP supporters mean well however I don't buy the "come in to this country, taking our jobs and taking our benefits". There is a generation of young people in this country who wont do the jobs that a lot of immigrants WILL DO. Young people in this country are happy to be on benefits. They should be forced to join the Navy and Army. A step in the right direction is the community project idea whereby claimants have to do something to justify their benefits. :clap:

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Postby AC or LT?

Smart wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:Is UKIP really racist or is that how they are being portrayed in the media? No doubt it has attracted some racist elements though.


There is good and bad in everything. No doubt some UKIP supporters mean well however I don't buy the "come in to this country, taking our jobs and taking our benefits". There is a generation of young people in this country who wont do the jobs that a lot of immigrants WILL DO. Young people in this country are happy to be on benefits. They should be forced to join the Navy and Army. A step in the right direction is the community project idea whereby claimants have to do something to justify their benefits. :clap:


Wow steady on. Some young people are lazy, point taken.

Making us all join the army or navy and act as cogs in the state's murderous machine should not be put on the table as an option. I much prefer the civilised option of offering a suitable job or training program to unemployed people, which are contrary to popular myth not the majority of young people, and cutting their benefits if they refuse it or deliberately get themselves fired.

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Postby Smart

You obviously don't understand the Navy for example. The majority of their work is not to do with fighting, but is to do with humanitarian efforts. They help out when a country is ravished by a hurricane or help to intercept parcels of drugs.

THIS IS MORE USE TO MAN-KIND THAN GETTING UP AT MIDDAY AND CLAIMING THE DOLE. IF A FEW GOT SLAUGHTERED IN A BATTLE, HEY HO LIFES A lovely lady. :clap:

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Postby AC or LT?

Smart wrote:You obviously don't understand the Navy for example. The majority of their work is not to do with fighting, but is to do with humanitarian efforts. They help out when a country is ravished by a hurricane or help to intercept parcels of drugs.

THIS IS MORE USE TO MAN-KIND THAN GETTING UP AT MIDDAY AND CLAIMING THE DOLE. IF A FEW GOT SLAUGHTERED IN A BATTLE, HEY HO LIFES A lovely lady. :clap:


I understand the navy perfectly well. It is in existence by virtue of the fact the country wants a defence in the event of invasion or to provide sea based forces to far flung wars on issues we don't care about in the sensible mass of normal people. They carry out the humanitarian efforts by virtue of the fact they have the resources to do it, the war arm of the navy, arm and air force should be split off from the humanitarian arm and then we can talk about forcing people to join the humanitarian arm. Any suggestion of bringing back national service or conscription is ridiculous in a 21st century peace-time society.

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Postby Wildey

AC or LT? wrote:
Wildey wrote:this has sod all to do with this thread so keep on topic


Given the thread is about the UK immigration system, a discussion about the uk immigration systems root problems is entirely on topic.

Navy or Army or personal political stands has nothing to do with Immigration and the problems Hossain has to play snooker

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Postby Smart

AC or LT? wrote:
Smart wrote:You obviously don't understand the Navy for example. The majority of their work is not to do with fighting, but is to do with humanitarian efforts. They help out when a country is ravished by a hurricane or help to intercept parcels of drugs.

THIS IS MORE USE TO MAN-KIND THAN GETTING UP AT MIDDAY AND CLAIMING THE DOLE. IF A FEW GOT SLAUGHTERED IN A BATTLE, HEY HO LIFES A lovely lady. :clap:


I understand the navy perfectly well. It is in existence by virtue of the fact the country wants a defence in the event of invasion or to provide sea based forces to far flung wars on issues we don't care about in the sensible mass of normal people. They carry out the humanitarian efforts by virtue of the fact they have the resources to do it, the war arm of the navy, arm and air force should be split off from the humanitarian arm and then we can talk about forcing people to join the humanitarian arm. Any suggestion of bringing back national service or conscription is ridiculous in a 21st century peace-time society.


not when the country is littered with benefit seaking wasters. Are you on benefits by any chance ? :wave:

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Postby Smart

Wildey wrote:
AC or LT? wrote:
Wildey wrote:this has sod all to do with this thread so keep on topic


Given the thread is about the UK immigration system, a discussion about the uk immigration systems root problems is entirely on topic.

Navy or Army or personal political stands has nothing to do with Immigration and the problems Hossain has to play snooker


of course it does :wave:

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Postby AC or LT?

Wildey wrote:
AC or LT? wrote:
Wildey wrote:this has sod all to do with this thread so keep on topic


Given the thread is about the UK immigration system, a discussion about the uk immigration systems root problems is entirely on topic.


Navy or Army or personal political stands has nothing to do with Immigration and the problems Hossain has to play snooker


Yes it does because the fact Hossein Vafei Ayouri cannot get a visa is down to political decisions taken as a result of the issues of immigration and by our politicians.

Smart wrote:not when the country is littered with benefit seaking wasters. Are you on benefits by any chance ? :wave:


No, I'm employed. Funnily enough you can be employed and still not want to condemn a generation of young people to a life of state servitude and potential death. There's much more sane, and humane, ways of tackling the issue of unemployment in Britain than forcing young people to become servants of warmongering politicians.

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Postby AC or LT?

Smart wrote:like I said the "potential death" you talk of is actually very rare, most service-men don't see action. Send the lot to help out on humanitarian efforts and if those boats are full send the rest to the front line. :clap: :wave:


It doesn't matter whether 1% or 100% of servicemen see combat, nobody should be forced to join the armed forces. There's an argument for forcing unemployed people into civilian jobs but not into war-related jobs.