Victoria Bulgarian Open (European Tour 1) Discussion !!

Second time Robbo's negativity has let Higgins in.

Has neil made the mistake in thinking John is rubbish at plants?

Wildey wrote:no muppett is wrong.

new season but same old crap from him

Learn how to spell, you useless Welsh turd.

2-1 Higgins.

Robbo looking outclassed in every department except long potting.

Muppet147 wrote:

Wildey wrote:no muppett is wrong.

new season but same old crap from him

Learn how to spell, you useless Welsh turd.

Learn something about snooker.

and btw insulting or name calling fellow poster is being stamped out so thats something else you need to learn.

3-1 Higgins. Robbo needs another comeback.

Final
Neil Robertson 1-3 John Higgins

i think the final should be best of 9 at least

Looks like the end.

4-1.

Higgins showing he's still good enough.

Skullman wrote:4-1.

Higgins showing he's still good enough.

You're right. I thought, the time of this old man is over. But he still can play to the very highest level. Good Contender for the World title 2014 if he keeps this level.

The new cue is a good'un.

What a terrific crowd. Packed house, putting many UK venues to the shame.

John takes the trophy and a cheque for a cool £21,250.

Bit of a boring line-up in the final but congratulations to Higgins on thrashing Robbo.

Question is, can John keep it up until the end of the season?

LATEST PROVISIONAL RANKINGS - After Victoria Bulgaria Open 2013

Rank Change Name Country Points
1 1 Neil Robertson Australia 81,120
2 -1 Mark Selby England 77,660
3 0 Judd Trump England 77,640
4 0 Shaun Murphy England 66,760
5 0 Stephen Maguire Scotland 65,480
6 1 Mark Allen Northern Ireland 61,220
7 2 Barry Hawkins England 61,185
8 0 Ricky Walden England 61,150
9 1 Ding Junhui China 59,160
10 1 John Higgins Scotland 58,915
11 -5 Stuart Bingham England 58,900
12 0 Graeme Dott Scotland 54,740
13 1 Matthew Stevens Wales 54,620
14 -1 Mark Davis England 53,280
15 1 Allister Carter England 52,895
16 1 Marco Fu Hong Kong 51,750
17 -2 Mark Williams Wales 51,520
18 0 Robert Milkins England 50,165
19 1 Ronnie O'Sullivan England 45,640
20 2 Andrew Higginson England 44,615
21 -2 Joe Perry England 43,900
22 3 Martin Gould England 43,675
23 0 Dominic Dale Wales 43,375
24 -3 Stephen Lee England 43,200
25 4 Mark King England 42,925
26 -2 Tom Ford England 42,795
27 -1 Michael Holt England 42,785
28 -1 Ken Doherty Ireland 41,790
29 2 Ryan Day Wales 41,395
30 0 Peter Ebdon England 41,270
31 -3 Marcus Campbell Scotland 41,185
32 1 Ben Woollaston England 39,660
33 1 Michael White Wales 38,955
34 2 Fergal O'Brien Ireland 37,340
35 -3 Liang Wenbo China 36,960
36 -1 Jack Lisowski England 36,185
37 1 Jamie Cope England 36,105
38 -1 Xiao Guodong China 35,520
39 0 Jamie Burnett Scotland 34,330
40 0 Jamie Jones Wales 33,455
41 2 Anthony Hamilton England 33,010
42 4 Nigel Bond England 31,905
43 -2 David Gilbert England 31,790
44 3 Rory McLeod England 31,660
45 3 Anthony McGill Scotland 31,195
46 -4 Mark Joyce England 30,965
46 3 Alan McManus Scotland 30,965
48 2 Yu Delu China 30,815
49 7 Alfie Burden England 30,435
50 4 Steve Davis England 29,890
51 4 Jimmy Robertson England 29,580
52 -7 Matthew Selt England 29,320
53 -2 Dave Harold England 28,835
54 3 Liu Chuang China 27,640
55 3 Jimmy White England 26,175
56 5 Gerard Greene Northern Ireland 24,730
57 6 Peter Lines England 23,895
58 10 Adam Duffy England 23,195
59 -15 Rod Lawler England 22,500
60 9 James Wattana Thailand 21,235
61 -9 Kurt Maflin Norway 20,635
62 3 Stephen Hendry Scotland 20,275
63 9 Mike Dunn England 20,120
64 -4 Dechawat Poomjaeng Thailand 19,650
65 5 Barry Pinches England 19,620
66 -13 Cao Yupeng China 18,890
67 9 Ian Burns England 18,200
68 -9 Tian Pengfei China 17,820
69 8 Thepchaiya Un-Nooh Thailand 16,320
70 -8 Liam Highfield England 15,820
71 -7 Luca Brecel Belgium 15,490
72 2 Paul Davison England 14,790
73 6 Thanawat Tirapongpaiboon Thailand 14,745
74 -8 Adiyta Mehta India 14,540
75 5 Pankaj Advani India 14,410
76 7 Chen Zhe China 14,050
77 9 Michael Wasley England 13,940
78 4 Zhang Anda China 13,590
79 6 Robbie Williams England 13,250
80 -9 Sam Baird England 12,305
81 6 Craig Steadman England 12,265
82 -9 Tony Drago Malta 12,140
83 6 Scott Donaldson Scotland 10,520
84 -17 Li Yan China 10,290
85 -4 Simon Bedford England 10,135
86 -2 Daniel Wells Wales 9,460
87 1 Martin O'Donnell England 8,820
88 -13 David Grace England 8,745
89 1 Joel Walker England 8,360
90 1 Sean O'Sullivan England 7,080
91 -13 Passakorn Suwannawat Thailand 5,590
92 0 Jamie O'Neill England 5,350
93 0 Michael Leslie Scotland 5,180
94 0 Ben Judge Australia 3,560
95 3 Gary Wilson England 2,470
96 2 John Astley England 2,270
97 0 Alex Davies Wales 1,910
97 1 Li Hang China 1,910
99 -4 Mohamed Khairy Egypt 1,890
100 -2 Andrew Pagett Wales 1,820
101 -3 Stuart Carrington England 1,690
102 -4 Noppon Saengkham Thailand 1,680
103 -5 Kyren Wilson England 1,540
104 -6 David Morris Ireland 1,460
104 -6 Lu Haotian China 1,460
104 -6 Vincent Calabrese Australia 1,460
107 -9 Hammad Miah England 1,290
108 -10 Elliot Slessor England 1,180
108 -10 Ross Muir Scotland 1,180
110 -12 Andrew Norman England 930
110 -12 Joe Swail Northern Ireland 930
110 -12 Lee Page England 930
110 -12 Ryan Clark England 930
114 -16 Patrick Einsle Germany 840
115 -17 Allan Taylor England 480
115 -17 Chris Norbury England 480
115 -17 Chris Wakelin England 480
115 -17 Jak Jones Wales 480
115 -17 James Cahill England 480
120 -24 Hossein Vafaei Iran 360
121 -23 Fraser Patrick Scotland 280
122 -24 African Wildcard 0
122 -24 Ahmed Saif Qatar 0
122 -24 Alexander Ursenbacher Switzerland 0
122 -24 Robin Hull Finland 0
122 -24 Floyd Ziegler Canada 0
122 -24 Igor Figueiredo Brazil 0
122 -24 Jin Long China 0
122 -24 Lee Spick England 0
122 -24 Cao Xinlong China 0
122 -24 Muhammed Asif Pakistan 0
122 -24 Saleh Mohammed Afghanistan 0
122 -24 American Wildcard 0
122 -24 Shi Hanqing China 0

Wildey wrote:Sunday 9th of June

6pm

Final
Neil Robertson 1-4 John Higgins

GET IN THERE!,another title goes to Scotland!.



Just when many thought he was down n out,Higgins once again from no-where produces some brilliant snooker and goes on to win yet another tourney!.



I really do think that Ronnies spured John on,given him more motivation,especially after Ronnie won the worlds for the 5th time.He,ll be as determined as ever at next years worlds and will be fully targeted on also winnin the worlds for the 5th time.



Well done John!.

hendry_fan wrote:

Wildey wrote:Sunday 9th of June

6pm

Final
Neil Robertson 1-4 John Higgins

GET IN THERE!,another title goes to Scotland!.



Just when many thought he was down n out,Higgins once again from no-where produces some brilliant snooker and goes on to win yet another tourney!.



I really do think that Ronnies spured John on,given him more motivation,especially after Ronnie won the worlds for the 5th time.He,ll be as determined as ever at next years worlds and will be fully targeted on also winnin the worlds for the 5th time.



Well done John!.

I agree with that. Even in this small PTC Event I saw in the semi final against Ronnie the full will in Higgins face. He wanted to win it badly, final against Neil the same. I think, he wants to show his old Rival, that he is capable of winning another World Title and to equal him. I hope, we see many Ronnie-Higgins matches this season. I smell the old great rivalry between them both.

TheRocket wrote:

hendry_fan wrote:

Wildey wrote:Sunday 9th of June

6pm

Final
Neil Robertson 1-4 John Higgins

GET IN THERE!,another title goes to Scotland!.



Just when many thought he was down n out,Higgins once again from no-where produces some brilliant snooker and goes on to win yet another tourney!.



I really do think that Ronnies spured John on,given him more motivation,especially after Ronnie won the worlds for the 5th time.He,ll be as determined as ever at next years worlds and will be fully targeted on also winnin the worlds for the 5th time.



Well done John!.

I agree with that. Even in this small PTC Event I saw in the semi final against Ronnie the full will in Higgins face. He wanted to win it badly, final against Neil the same. I think, he wants to show his old Rival, that he is capable of winning another World Title and to equal him. I hope, we see many Ronnie-Higgins matches this season. I smell the old great rivalry between them both.

Yep,i,m sure it,s made Higgins think even more now about his future,it,s made him as determined as ever,also,he,s realising that he,s not gettin any younger,so he really must make the most of the potential he still has left in him.

Muppet147 wrote:Bit of a boring line-up in the final but congratulations to Higgins on thrashing Robbo.

It was a thrashing. Robbo really disappointed the Sofia locals with that performance.

Yes a good win for Higgins, but still all this talk about Higgins being a contender for the Worlds if he keeps this sort of form is way too early cause remember most, including me, were saying the same last season when he started superbly beating Trump in that classic Shanghai Masters final and then after that look at what happened..

He didn't do anything else in the Majors apart from a semi in World Open and went out first round of Worlds. What I'm saying is he maybe needs to manage his season better and then if he keeps this up then yes a contender for big titles.

And yeah that Ronnie factor plays a big part too, as I also think he has 1 or even 2 more World titles left in him.

Congratulations to Higgins on his win here in Bulgaria, it was a fantastic tournament, level of play superb, and excelent crowds too.

Hoping it's a good sign for the rest of the season.

vodkadiet wrote:

Muppet147 wrote:Bit of a boring line-up in the final but congratulations to Higgins on thrashing Robbo.

It was a thrashing. Robbo really disappointed the Sofia locals with that performance.

he didn't do a lot wrong John Higgins played superbly well.

I'm not sure if Ronnie has any more hunger and will to win more Andre. He did the highest thing in snooker by defending a World Title after beeing a year out. He did more than enough in this game. After reading his statements the last couple of weeks I think, he only plays for fun and to earn a little bit more money.

But the good thing is. He can be very freed and play his best snooker because he doesn't have this high pressure to achieve anymore. Not like a Selby,Trump,Ding or Maguire at example , who all want to win their first World title very badly.

Wildey wrote:

vodkadiet wrote:

Muppet147 wrote:Bit of a boring line-up in the final but congratulations to Higgins on thrashing Robbo.

It was a thrashing. Robbo really disappointed the Sofia locals with that performance.

he didn't do a lot wrong John Higgins played superbly well.

I would say, Robbo made two very silly mistakes in the shotselection in the second frame,especially when he let Higgins back to the table and let him potting that non difficult plant and gave Higgins the force over the table. But after that Higgins was indeed the better man.

Robertson's final record must be nearing 50% now

GJ always goes strangely missing when his hero suffers these humiliations...

I don't think however, that this one win in a minor event suggests Higgins is going to win a fifth world title.

Muppet147 wrote:I don't think however, that this one win in a minor event suggests Higgins is going to win a fifth world title.

Exactly, he played even better in Shanghai final last season against Trump and then did nothing else for the remainder of the season, so this is just a good sign his form is coming, but nothing much else than that.

We'll see how he plays in the Major events.

TheRocket wrote:I'm not sure if Ronnie has any more hunger and will to win more Andre. He did the highest thing in snooker by defending a World Title after beeing a year out. He did more than enough in this game. After reading his statements the last couple of weeks I think, he only plays for fun and to earn a little bit more money.

But the good thing is. He can be very freed and play his best snooker because he doesn't have this high pressure to achieve anymore. Not like a Selby,Trump,Ding or Maguire at example , who all want to win their first World title very badly.

True that, but he really should play in more events this season cause, at best, he has what, 2 or 3 more years at the very top of his game before his form really starts to decline when he reaches 40 me thinks, and should aim to level or even surpass Davis's record of rankers in 28, very much on, but I know full well he doesn't give a donkey doo about records, he's not a Hendry, but as I say should play a little bit more.

We know he has to play in 10 events to fulfill his contract, so ideally he should play the Uk Champs, Masters, Worlds, Welsh Open, maybe German Masters and a few more ptc's.