Re: PTC Grand Finals Last 16 Discussion !!!!
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Skullman - Posts: 27634
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jojo wrote:ronnie keep pulling out devalues these tournaments because he a top player id rather a lesser player keep pulling out
when he needed to turn it on he won the german open and reached the semi final of the next keeps his top sixteen place then disappears until the world championship
The Cueist wrote:Ronnie,Please get well soon mate.
I don't doubt the validity of Ronnie's illness,He knows the position he is in the rankings and all that goes with that.He doesnt feel able to play so that is that.
At the end of the day his health and wellbeing are of paramount importance to him,It's his call and nobody else's as he knows himself better than anyone else.
A question for wild,Do you go into work when your not well?
And another while we are at it wild.Would you retire from your occupation after you have recovered from an illness?
jojo wrote:since winning the uk and getting taught a lesson by robertson in matchplay snooker in the masters semi judd has done nothing in four tournaments when he acted like he rule the snooker world
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Well it's incredible what happened today. Ronnie pulling out last minute, Trump losing again ...
I might have to reconsider my favourites for the WC ... Judd can't be the favourite anymore after the last couple of tournaments also (assuming he's not faking it) Ronnie's health problems reduce his chances of winning the Worlds ...
Andre147 wrote:Monique wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:I don't know if he's really sick or not but this smells like a last minute excuse.
He is really sick but it was poor thinking/poor form to leave his decision to withdraw that late. He should have done it a lot earlier, even if he thought there was a chance for him to feel fit enough come today, so that the WSA and the broadcasters had the opportunity to re-arrange the schedule and/or provide some diversion. It wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't a one table setup, but it is, and it's a real shame.
Also I heard that from the World Open on no points are awarded to players pulling out, even for medical reasons (*). So that puts things in another light as the struggle for his top 16 spot next season is still very much on.
(*) players with serious long term conditions can apply for an exception but that's a separate procedure with no guarantee to get it.
Agree, Ronnie should have informed World Snooker a lot earlier of this... he did the exact same thing in the German Masters last year... and I thought it would be too risky to put Ronnie on the cover of the anouncment for this tourney, and, once again, he proved me right....
He will pull out of the China Open I´m sure.. and then the Worlds he might attend it.. but like Wild said, if he pulls out of the Worlds then it´s about time he quits the sport for good
Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Well it's incredible what happened today. Ronnie pulling out last minute, Trump losing again ...
I might have to reconsider my favourites for the WC ... Judd can't be the favourite anymore after the last couple of tournaments also (assuming he's not faking it) Ronnie's health problems reduce his chances of winning the Worlds ...
With Judd he could have another great run in Beijing and then do well in the Worlds again. Remember this time last he still that kid who hadn't reached his potential and look where he ended up.
Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Well it's incredible what happened today. Ronnie pulling out last minute, Trump losing again ...
I might have to reconsider my favourites for the WC ... Judd can't be the favourite anymore after the last couple of tournaments also (assuming he's not faking it) Ronnie's health problems reduce his chances of winning the Worlds ...
With Judd he could have another great run in Beijing and then do well in the Worlds again. Remember this time last he still that kid who hadn't reached his potential and look where he ended up.
It's all very different this season. He's UK Champion, the "man to beat" and he expects a lot from himself this season. It's very hard to get to the top but it's even harder to stay there. Trump is experiencing the first serious setbacks since getting to the top and he has to learn now how to deal with it.
Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Skullman wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:Well it's incredible what happened today. Ronnie pulling out last minute, Trump losing again ...
I might have to reconsider my favourites for the WC ... Judd can't be the favourite anymore after the last couple of tournaments also (assuming he's not faking it) Ronnie's health problems reduce his chances of winning the Worlds ...
With Judd he could have another great run in Beijing and then do well in the Worlds again. Remember this time last he still that kid who hadn't reached his potential and look where he ended up.
It's all very different this season. He's UK Champion, the "man to beat" and he expects a lot from himself this season. It's very hard to get to the top but it's even harder to stay there. Trump is experiencing the first serious setbacks since getting to the top and he has to learn now how to deal with it.
My personal take on it is that he's become a bit too complacent and forgotten how good the other players are, and is surprised when they can beat him. He could end up being another Maguire: a good player who some said would dominate the game, but in the end underachieves.
GJ wrote:robbo now fav IMO
Skullman wrote:Actually a quick check of Wikipedia shows a remarkable similarity. Maguire won a event (European Open 9-3 against Jimmy White), then lost to Higgins in a final and won the UK that year. Then a barren patch. Hopefully this doesn't happen to Judd, but if it does I think Maguire would be a good comparison.
Sonny wrote:The stories going around on twitter atm is that Ronnie was actually on the plane but wasn't allowed to sit next to his mate so he went home.
Sonny wrote:The stories going around on twitter atm is that Ronnie was actually on the plane but wasn't allowed to sit next to his mate so he went home.