Re: PTCs reward
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Sonny wrote:In the comments section someone called John A made a few good points amongst all the anonymous trash
Wild wrote:Sonny wrote:In the comments section someone called John A made a few good points amongst all the anonymous trash
yes i do believe snooker players think its only them but the sacrifices and loses every sportsman has had to go through to reach the top is pretty frightening.
just look at Mark Jones hannahs father he is traveling all over the country at his own expense to give his Daughters the Chance in Sport and that Goes for Every Pearant out there that helps their Kids reach their Full Potential in Sport.
in Tennis Roger Federer did not just Arive a Millionaire he had to do the Hardship to Get there same with Tiger Woods etc etc
Sport is a vocation a burning Ambition yes they have to Live put food on the Table but if they feel its not Worth it then Try something else.
Wild wrote:but thats the sacrifices they have to make to reach the top in sport its not just exclusive to snooker you spend far more money than you get back for a ambition that might never pay off.
id love nothing more than to see these players that play snooker for our pleasure earn mega money to do it and i do understand theire arguament but lets not fault barry hearn for that unfortunally that is the harsh reality of being a sportsman or Woman.
the snooker tour needs a better structure and if the callender for 2012/2013 is as messy as this one id start to change my mind lol
Monique wrote:Wild wrote:just look at Mark Jones hannahs father he is traveling all over the country at his own expense to give his Daughters the Chance in Sport and that Goes for Every Pearant out there that helps their Kids reach their Full Potential in Sport.
Yes but Mark Jones has the money to do this - not taking anything from his efforts that are admirable - but not every parent has. I'd say, today, if a family is not comfortably well off, they just can't do it as much as they'd want to.
Wild I ask you to accept that people can't spend the money they don't have, as much as they'd want to they just can't. It's that simple really. It's not a matter of not wanting to make sacrifices, it's a matter of possibilities, plain and simple.
Wild wrote:ive read and it changes nothing the reality is in sport you have to spend money you dont have to achieve the goal of fullfilling your ambition.
i know its harsh but thats how it is and always has been monique its just now hitting the snooker world.
markj147 wrote:To validate my comment. I now rely on assistance from family and other persons to top up my personal input to help Hannah and Ellie. This year I have had to turn down invitations, tournaments and practice for Hannah and I don't see things getting easier in this economic climate. These decisions will affect Hannah's rankings in the events she normally plays in but that is the price we have to pay to get her the match practice. Fortunately there is an English Under 21 ranking tour being held in Derbyshire which is close to where we live so costs are reduced and the quality of the opposition will be far greater than other ladies tournaments and junior events so the upside of losing her hard earned ranking position is excellent match practice against youngsters who could realistically make it onto the pro tour in the future.
gallantrabbit wrote:The fact of the matter is that it's a sight easier and cheaper to fork out for fees and travel than it is in sports like tennis and golf. At least we're talking Britain and a little in Europe. Don't criticise Hearn for this surely. He promised opportunities not guarantees. This kid Monique is mentioning is now getting opportunities. He's not a pro is he? But like ALL other amateurs he can enter the number of tourneys he can afford. That's life. I can play in the PTCs if I want. Mix it with the good players. These kids are getting an opportunity they never had before.
Become World or UK champ, then the guarantees might just start. Before that just build slowly and earn your chance.
Anyone would think that Hearn is sitting on a pile of gold ruthlessly deciding who to chuck a bone to and who not.
Remember that 2 years ago snooker was less than nowhere, and BH won't get every decision right, just about 95%.
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child in a playground GJ.
snooky147 wrote:Some poster earlier made the analogy of apprentices, who made sacrifices in order to learn their craft so that when they graduated they could get proper paid work and the sacrifice would be worthwhile.
Well many of todays top stars have made those sacrifice's in the form of the qualifying school at Blackpool, which was a brutal scholl with very little reward if you were not successful. But even apprentices get a minimum wage. Sadly, some in our sport still get no guaranteed income. I say that if you qualify through the Q school, well you are a pro and in no way mediocre so lets cut the PTC'S down to 9 and use some of the entry funds from the Q School to give those at 64 to 96 a minimum payout per season, like it was all those years ago at Blackpool. Hell, why not generate some cash by opening the Sport up fully just like in those days.
To get back to my original point though, the top names have made these sacrifices coming through the rank, why should they have to do so again as some would suggest here by playing in Tournaments that would clearly cost them money.
Wild wrote:yes cant argue with that ....
what gets me is its more the £100,000 a year players that complaining about PTC not the little man strugling at the bottom.
Witz78 wrote:Wild wrote:yes cant argue with that ....
what gets me is its more the £100,000 a year players that complaining about PTC not the little man strugling at the bottom.
yeh i agree
for all the folk on here moaning about the PTCs being bad for the younger up and coming and struggling players, they are actually the ones who embrace the PTCs and get on with it, they are happy to have more opportunities.
Witz78 wrote:prize money or price money as Wild would say could then be