Bourne wrote:Yeh that sounds fair to me, I was just trying earlier to work out if there was any way that the seventeen-thirty-two seeds would have byes in round one kwollies but it doesn't seem to work with 96 pros (80 kwollies)
the only way you could do it with 99 players would be this
well take the rankings after the Aussie Open and assume qualifying for Shanghai went like this......
top 16 qualify Williams, Higgins, Selby, Ding, Murphy, Robertson, Carter, Maguire, O'Sullivan, Trump, Dott, Bingham, Allen, Stevens, Hendry and Ebdon.
so were left with 83players ranked 17-58 are the seeds ( one of these is selected at random and will recieve a bye into round 2)
the other 41 seeds are placed against the respective lower ranked players (59-99) for simplicity well assume the 58th ranked player Alfie Burden got the bye so its ie. 17th v 99th, 18th v 98th etc
so bye for Alfie Burden and the rest of the matches are as follows
1 - COPE - VATNANI
2 - M.DAVIS - FIGUERIDO
3 - LEE - WELLS
4 - GOULD - MEHTA
5 - WALDEN - MEARA
6 - CAMPBELL - HOGAN
7 - HAWKINS - GRACE
8 - PERRY - FILIPIAK
9 - DOHERTY - CARRINGTON
10 - HIGGINSON - YUPENG
11 - FU - WICHEARD
12 - DALE - SUWANNAT
13 - KING - DUFFY
14 - WENBO - BRECEL
15 - DAY - HULL
16 - FORD - BAIRD
17 - GREENE - POOMJAENG
18 - MCLEOD - NORMAN
19 - MILKINS - PENGFEI
20 - O'BRIEN - DELU
21 - DUNN - YAN
22 - SELT - CRAIGIE
23 - HAMILTON - MAFLIN
24 - BOND - BEDFORD
25 - BURNETT - MACKENZIE
26 - PINCHES - MORRIS
27 - JOYCE - DAVISON
28 - HOLT - PAGGETT
29 - JONES - M.WHITE
30 - JOGIA - COUCH
31 - DRAGO - WOOLASTON
32 - S.DAVIS - MCCULLOCH
33 - LISOWSKI - WATTANA
34 - HAROLD - SONG
35 - LINES - HANEVEER
36 - MCMANUS - GILBERT
37 - J.WHITE - HIGHFIELD
38 - ROBERTSON - HICKS
39 - GUNNELL - GUODONG
40 - SWAIL - CHUANG
41 - LAWLER - MCGILL
So of these 41 matches 19 are picked at random and will be played in Qualifying round 1, the other 22 matches (44 players + Burden who got a bye will go into Qualifying round 2)
so thats 45 players with the 19 round 1 winners to follow making the last 64 in round 2
the seeding for the last 64 is as followsthe 22 set matches will be played as expected
the 19 qualifying matches will have already been placed into order as per the above numbers, the lower the number the higher the expected seeding of the winner.
these 19 + Burden who got the bye and slots into 20/20 as hes 58th seed and the 19 matches played in qualifying will always feature one player higher than him in the rankings.
for example and simplicity say the 19 qualifying matches are number 23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40 and 41 then it would be expected in round 2 that the winner of 23 would play Burden, the winner of match 24 would play the winner of match 41 , 25 v 40 etc up to 32 v 33.
now the last 32 / qualifying round 3 would be simply seeded on the basis of winner match 1 v winner match 32 as it would be expected that the seedings had still panned out despite the randomness of draws / byes etc
in the scenario where a match, say match 1 was drawn out in the 1st qualifying round, then obviously the winner of that match would already be playing in round 2 so couldnt just waltz straight into round 3 but it would still be assumed that the 17th seed had won his round 1 match v 99th seed then his round 2 match v the lowest ranked other round 1 qualifying round winner, and therefore hed still face the 32nd seed in round 3.
and if anyone can follow that, well done.