by Wildey » 24 Jul 2011 Read
ive just done a quick calc on the Official Rankings after The Australian Open on that list points are carried on but nothing coming off because until shanghai we not reached a corresponding event from 2009/2010 season to take points off.
Thats how the official Top 16 will look like going in to the Shanghai masters (not the Provisional Rankings as shown on Pro Snooker Blog) why with a week to go before Qualifying couldnt that updated list been used and draw the Shanghai Masters Monday 25th of July (Tomorrow).
1. Mark Williams
2.John Higgins
3. Mark Selby
4. Ding Junhui
5. Shaun Murphy
6. Neil Robertson
7. Ali Carter
8. Stephen Maguire
9. Ronnie O'Sullivan
10. Graeme Dott
11. Judd Trump
12. Stuart Bingham
13. Mark Allen
14. Matthew Stevens
15. Stephen Hendry
16. Peter Ebdon
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by PLtheRef » 24 Jul 2011 Read
The problem is with the such short turn around, I mean it gets to a stage where we have a ranking tournament nearly every single week in the early part of the season.
Perhaps doing it after each TV Ranker would be better
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by Roland » 24 Jul 2011 Read
Every ranker is on tv apart from the PTC. I think what they've done at the moment is a shedload better than how it used to be and I'm happy with how it is now.
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by SnookerFan » 24 Jul 2011 Read
If you did it too often, it would become a nightmare to administer. How would your organise qualifiers, if you didn't even know who was going to be in the qualifying tournament on a month-by-month basis.
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by Bourne » 24 Jul 2011 Read
They manage in tennis, why not snooker ?
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by Alex0paul » 24 Jul 2011 Read
Bourne wrote:They manage in tennis, why not snooker ?
They still use cut off points though
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by Bourne » 24 Jul 2011 Read
They're week by week, why not use that in snooker ?
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by Wildey » 24 Jul 2011 Read
this thread was inspired by bourne on twitter and obviously witz ringing in my ear like a deranged budgie
Sonny wrote:Every ranker is on tv apart from the PTC. I think what they've done at the moment is a shedload better than how it used to be and I'm happy with how it is now.
yes it is shed loads better
and to answer Paddy after the Welsh Open there will be a seeding cut off point on the 19th of February and on 2oth of February the China Open qualifiers will start with new seedings used
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by Roland » 24 Jul 2011 Read
Mind you before this rolling rankings system came into operation I was thinking the best way to do it was to have the qualifiers before the event and cut off before each qualifying round so that's basically what you're saying. If you have two or three qualifiers back to back then obviously they won't refresh until after that main event has been played. If they overlap i.e. qualifiers for the following event played before the previous one has finished then that would explain why it's easier to do what they do now. PTCs are unaffected by rolling rankings seeing as the pros all enter at round 1
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by Wildey » 24 Jul 2011 Read
Sonny wrote:Mind you before this rolling rankings system came into operation I was thinking the best way to do it was to have the qualifiers before the event and cut off before each qualifying round so that's basically what you're saying. If you have two or three qualifiers back to back then obviously they won't refresh until after that main event has been played. If they overlap i.e. qualifiers for the following event played before the previous one has finished then that would explain why it's easier to do what they do now. PTCs are unaffected by rolling rankings seeing as the pros all enter at round 1
i think in snooker it is tougher to do that because you dont own venues there could be Ranking events back to back like there was in the 90s and therefore have to play qualifiers earlier but if they CAN Do it why not
Ive looked at the Current Calender and they could easily do it this season like this
Australian Open after
PTC 1Shanghai Masters after
Australia OpenOctober Ranking Event after
PTC 7UK Championship after
October Ranking Event (if there will be one) if not PTC 8German Masters after
PTC 9Masters after
PTC 11Sky Shootout after
PTC 12Welsh Open after
German MastersChina Open,April Ranking Event and World Championship after
Welsh Open
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by Witz78 » 24 Jul 2011 Read
ive just returned from a pleasant evening after a £200 blowout on 3 bottles of fine wine with some American relations so please forgive me if this is a rant...................BUT
of course the rankings can and should be updated after each event, shocker Snookerfan doesnt think this is achievable
its hardly rocket science and far fairer. do them every week and after every PTC, that would help give the PTCs even more importance for players near rankings cut offs qualifying wise, prior to an event.
take the current scenario when the "top 16" who play in the Masters will be deciced FOUR MONTHS BEFORE that tournament, so much for bloody rolling.
Wild, are you sure Hendry really would be number 15 ????
Deranged budgie perhaps but the deranged budgie made you change your mind on starter points and now on the rolling rankings so next thing you will be agreeing minimum points per event and the qualifying process need tweeked too, but nevermind you, lets hope WPSBA see the error in their ways.
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by Wildey » 25 Jul 2011 Read
Witz78 wrote:Wild, are you sure Hendry really would be number 15 ????
Possitive
http://www.worldsnooker.com/page/WorldR ... 76,00.htmlthe only one i got wrong was Dott they not given him the 700 points i did lol
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by snooky147 » 25 Jul 2011 Read
They are annoyingly slow at awarding points due after production of a medical certificate, always have been.
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by Wildey » 25 Jul 2011 Read
snooky147 wrote:They are annoyingly slow at awarding points due after production of a medical certificate, always have been.
i think there should be across the board groundrules then its understood if you pull out of a match or tournament you get half your points no medical certificate or anything .
if you qualify then pull out you get 700 if you seed and pull out 450 no ifs buts or maybes.
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by snooky147 » 25 Jul 2011 Read
Wild wrote:snooky147 wrote:They are annoyingly slow at awarding points due after production of a medical certificate, always have been.
i think there should be across the board groundrules then its understood if you pull out of a match or tournament you get half your points no medical certificate or anything .
if you qualify then pull out you get 700 if you seed and pull out 450 no ifs buts or maybes.
Ok, So let me understand you here. You want O'Sullivan and Dott to get 450 points for having to pull out because of illness?. Nope sorry mate, cannot agree with that...(there's a shocker
). If they pulled out for no good reason they or anyone else should get ZERO points awarded, but if on production of a medical certificate they should get the loser's points as allocated.
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by Wildey » 25 Jul 2011 Read
ok maybe not lol there are different levels of pulling out
http://www.worldsnooker.com/page/NewsAr ... 77,00.htmlWilliams has stretched his lead over John Higgins to nearly 5,000 points at the top of the list. Semi-finalist Shaun Murphy is up two places to fifth, while Stephen Hendry is back into the top 16 thanks to his first round win.
Hendry is back in the top 16 after not being in the top 16 during the Aussie open despite being 16th seed
this is so stupid lol
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by snooky147 » 25 Jul 2011 Read
Dammitalltohell Wild, you gave up really fast on that.
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