Unibet British Open Final !!!!!!

So happy Selby finally won an ITV event, preferable, would like Champion of Champions but that's just a preference.

Not a fan when some of these players say the standard is tough when they win a tournament. It's really not. It's been the same players for the last 2 decades, 4 decades if Co92 are included who are all way past their best and that trickles down to each other... But I understand why they say it of course, PR and all.

Granite wrote:So happy Selby finally won an ITV event, preferable, would like Champion of Champions but that's just a preference.

Not a fan when some of these players say the standard is tough when they win a tournament. It's really not. It's been the same players for the last 2 decades, 4 decades if Co92 are included who are all way past their best and that trickles down to each other... But I understand why they say it of course, PR and all.

I’m sure it feels tough when they’re not as good as they once were

Juddernaut88 wrote:

badtemperedcyril wrote:Powerful display from Selby. Not many players can make Higgins look second rate but Mark did today. Different gravy.

Well done to Selby but we all know very well if Judd won this you'd be calling it a tin pot event but as your man won it you'll no doubt be having a twiddle to celebrate it.

A twiddle? Gosh! I’m always happy when Judders wins!

mantorok wrote:

SnookerFan wrote:Technically, he still hasn't won a tournament on ITV4.

4 is the channel, ITV is the broadcaster.

Thanks for the clarification.

You know the ITV 4 thing was a joke?

I think Higgins probably has made a mistake because he never changed his game or reinvented himself like the other Co92 members did. He plays the same type of game which is a careful approach and playing the correct shot. He relies more on concentration which naturally gets worse when you get older. And you see it even more in longer matches.

TheRocket wrote:I think Higgins probably has made a mistake because he never changed his game or reinvented himself like the other Co92 members did. He plays the same type of game which is a careful approach and playing the correct shot. He relies more on concentration which naturally gets worse when you get older. And you see it even more in longer matches.

Higgins has tinkered like mad with his technique, also trying different cues, tips, ferrules, shortening the bridge and so on.

For me he’s always played the game the right way. It’s why Ronnie has so much respect for him, being able to play the percentages but also be lethal in clearing up. He’s always had the balance spot on. I’m not sure how he could change his approach in such a way that it results in more wins. Concentration and focus will decline in every player eventually, but I reckon that can only be mitigated by staying on top of physical/mental fitness rather than a change in approach or strategy.

Come on Barry.

Holden Chinaski wrote:Come on Barry.

Relax, mate.

Prop wrote:

TheRocket wrote:I think Higgins probably has made a mistake because he never changed his game or reinvented himself like the other Co92 members did. He plays the same type of game which is a careful approach and playing the correct shot. He relies more on concentration which naturally gets worse when you get older. And you see it even more in longer matches.

Higgins has tinkered like mad with his technique, also trying different cues, tips, ferrules, shortening the bridge and so on.

For me he’s always played the game the right way. It’s why Ronnie has so much respect for him, being able to play the percentages but also be lethal in clearing up. He’s always had the balance spot on. I’m not sure how he could change his approach in such a way that it results in more wins. Concentration and focus will decline in every player eventually, but I reckon that can only be mitigated by staying on top of physical/mental fitness rather than a change in approach or strategy.

The only way Higgins could change his game is to become more aggressive but imo he doesn’t have the long game for that.

Prop wrote:

TheRocket wrote:I think Higgins probably has made a mistake because he never changed his game or reinvented himself like the other Co92 members did. He plays the same type of game which is a careful approach and playing the correct shot. He relies more on concentration which naturally gets worse when you get older. And you see it even more in longer matches.

Higgins has tinkered like mad with his technique, also trying different cues, tips, ferrules, shortening the bridge and so on.

For me he’s always played the game the right way. It’s why Ronnie has so much respect for him, being able to play the percentages but also be lethal in clearing up. He’s always had the balance spot on. I’m not sure how he could change his approach in such a way that it results in more wins. Concentration and focus will decline in every player eventually, but I reckon that can only be mitigated by staying on top of physical/mental fitness rather than a change in approach or strategy.

Higgins Lost a Snooker Match against someone playing better than him on the day lets not forget he reached a final thats better than 126 other players so not much wrong with his game he played and won 6 matches to reach the final

Selby made 7 breaks 85 + in that match the final 2 frames from 8-5 was done with 1 hit 91 and 93 respectively.

Iranu wrote:

Granite wrote:So happy Selby finally won an ITV event, preferable, would like Champion of Champions but that's just a preference.

Not a fan when some of these players say the standard is tough when they win a tournament. It's really not. It's been the same players for the last 2 decades, 4 decades if Co92 are included who are all way past their best and that trickles down to each other... But I understand why they say it of course, PR and all.

I’m sure it feels tough when they’re not as good as they once were

What a ridiculous comment.

So if the tour is dominated by 70 year olds of the same players we've had does that mean the standard is tough because they weren't as good as before?

The standard of snooker is low but everyone is benefitting from it. Some just more than others.

Imagine thinking this is a strong era.

Wildey wrote:

Prop wrote:

TheRocket wrote:I think Higgins probably has made a mistake because he never changed his game or reinvented himself like the other Co92 members did. He plays the same type of game which is a careful approach and playing the correct shot. He relies more on concentration which naturally gets worse when you get older. And you see it even more in longer matches.

Higgins has tinkered like mad with his technique, also trying different cues, tips, ferrules, shortening the bridge and so on.

For me he’s always played the game the right way. It’s why Ronnie has so much respect for him, being able to play the percentages but also be lethal in clearing up. He’s always had the balance spot on. I’m not sure how he could change his approach in such a way that it results in more wins. Concentration and focus will decline in every player eventually, but I reckon that can only be mitigated by staying on top of physical/mental fitness rather than a change in approach or strategy.

Higgins Lost a Snooker Match against someone playing better than him on the day lets not forget he reached a final thats better than 126 other players so not much wrong with his game he played and won 6 matches to reach the final

Selby made 7 breaks 85 + in that match the final 2 frames from 8-5 was done with 1 hit 91 and 93 respectively.

Yeah I’m not saying otherwise. I was addressing the comment about Higgins apparently making a mistake by failing to reinvent himself. I don’t think he ever needed to.

Granite wrote:

Iranu wrote:

Granite wrote:So happy Selby finally won an ITV event, preferable, would like Champion of Champions but that's just a preference.

Not a fan when some of these players say the standard is tough when they win a tournament. It's really not. It's been the same players for the last 2 decades, 4 decades if Co92 are included who are all way past their best and that trickles down to each other... But I understand why they say it of course, PR and all.

I’m sure it feels tough when they’re not as good as they once were

What a ridiculous comment.

So if the tour is dominated by 70 year olds of the same players we've had does that mean the standard is tough because they weren't as good as before?

The standard of snooker is low but everyone is benefitting from it. Some just more than others.

Imagine thinking this is a strong era.

I said it feels tough.

Step 1: Read properly

Step 2: Comprehend

Neither Mark not John are playing to the standard they have in the past (at least not regularly), so it’s no surprise if they find the tour tougher than they did when they were at their best.

I,ve finaly found some time to write a wee summary about the Tournament that i took part in + to write a bit about this Final.


Hmm,well now that i think bout it,i guess i could just write that I lost my 1/8 Final Match and that John lost this Final.







Aye,nah,listen!.This is a moment that Sir Juddie,Hendroid and maybe a few others have been waitin for.

I lost my 1/8 Final Match,3 - 1.

My opponent was the better player,although he wasnae a lot better.I struggled to get into a good long rythm,kept missing easy pots as well as i struggled with positional play.

At best i could,ve won 2 frames against him,but i did,nt make enough out of the good few chances that i got.


All the same,i thuruly enjoyed it.Had a lot o good,intrestin chats,watched a lot of frames,bits n pieces here n there,got fed n watered,took part in the Tourney,got to the last 16,won 5 frames overall + i knocked in a 25 break.


We all know how difficult Snooker is,especially when one has,nt played for a long time,or when one has,nt played often of late.You miss so many pots,especially often easy ones and talk bout struggling with positional play,


As far as the safety part of the game is concerned.Well thats the part that is easier to get back on track,at least for me it is.

And last but not least regarding the Tournament that i took part in.There was a tantrum attack!.

One o the players stormed off in a tantrum after his match.Because,he lost that Match 3 - 2 and in the decider,his opponent needed 2 snookers with only pink n black left.


The overall standard was low.Pots,easy pots were missd all over the shop.If i would bring my usual standard which i had for many years,then i would of highly likely gotten to at least the 1/4 Finals,maybe even the Semis.

The highest break ended up being 58,which was an improvement to the last Tournament high break,which was a measly 39!.

One of my freinds ended up winning the Tourney.Cause he won,he paid for all the drinks n food i had.




Now,a few words bout the Final.


I only saw the last few frames.


I was of course Dissappointed that John once again did,nt manage to add another bit o Silverware,but Judging by the scoreing,Selby was very impressive,far too strong.


John was,nt gonna do much harm,by only managing to make three 50+ breaks!,but at least part of him not scoreing high enough,was highly likely mainly cause Mark had him under immense pressure,the way Mark was playing n scoreing was phenomenal!.




Johns now s now appeared in 56 Ranking finals,has (31 titles)

Hendry,Ranking finals: 57,(36 titles)

Ronnie,Ranking Finals = 64 (41 titles)



A BIG congrats to Selby.

It really is incredible that he,s won this Tournament,especially after whats he,s been through of late.Great to see him bounce back again. I really admire stuff like that.

Hendry_fan unlucky on the tournament. I think you should try and play snooker more often and You'll then win the next tournament :) I can't believe someone had a tantrum losing a decider!

hendry_fan wrote:Aye,nah,listen!.This is a moment that Sir Juddie,Hendroid and maybe a few others have been waitin for.

I lost my 1/8 Final Match,3 - 1.

My opponent was the better player,although he wasnae a lot better.I struggled to get into a good long rythm,kept missing easy pots as well as i struggled with positional play.

At best i could,ve won 2 frames against him,but i did,nt make enough out of the good few chances that i got.


All the same,i thuruly enjoyed it.Had a lot o good,intrestin chats,watched a lot of frames,bits n pieces here n there,got fed n watered,took part in the Tourney,got to the last 16,won 5 frames overall + i knocked in a 25 break.


We all know how difficult Snooker is,especially when one has,nt played for a long time,or when one has,nt played often of late.You miss so many pots,especially often easy ones and talk bout struggling with positional play,

Well done sir! Getting to the last 16 if you've not played for a while is a great achievement. I've just got back from a practice session at the club after not playing for almost five months (an enforced layoff). I wasn't expecting much but after 25 mins I knocked in a 52 on the good old xmas tree routine. Pretty chuffed that I got my arm back in so quickly.

As for the guy who had a tantrum - I would love to see someone wigging out like that over a game of snooker. Don't think I'd be able to stop myself laughing out loud. Some people take club playing way too seriously!

hendry_fan wrote:Now,a few words bout the Final.


I only saw the last few frames.


I was of course Dissappointed that John once again did,nt manage to add another bit o Silverware,but Judging by the scoreing,Selby was very impressive,far too strong.


John was,nt gonna do much harm,by only managing to make three 50+ breaks!,but at least part of him not scoreing high enough,was highly likely mainly cause Mark had him under immense pressure,the way Mark was playing n scoreing was phenomenal!.




Johns now s now appeared in 56 Ranking finals,has (31 titles)

Hendry,Ranking finals: 57,(36 titles)

Ronnie,Ranking Finals = 64 (41 titles)



A BIG congrats to Selby.

It really is incredible that he,s won this Tournament,especially after whats he,s been through of late.Great to see him bounce back again. I really admire stuff like that.

It was a disappointing evening session, but you missed a ramtoozler of an afternoon one. Mark and John were both playing extremely well. It was pure bliss!

Bai seems to be playing well.

Ramtoozler klaxon

Wrong thread again.

Juddernaut88 wrote:Hendry_fan unlucky on the tournament. I think you should try and play snooker more often and You'll then win the next tournament :) I can't believe someone had a tantrum losing a decider!

Ta Sir Juddie.




Well thats the thing.Now that i,ve been to watch a few Tournements of late and since i actually took part in one,it,s really got me thinking about gettin my cue back out again.


"I think you should try and play snooker more often and You'll then win the next tournament :)".That sounds like a polite way of saying,"GET YUR BUCKIN FINGERS OUT HF!!!".


The summers finished,(not that there was much of a summer in Bonnie Scotland). But,i certainly won,t be out as much as i have been of late + if i were to start playin again,that also means that i can get away from My Missus more.


If i really do decide to start playin again,it,ll probably be <only> once a week.But who knows,sum things lead to anuther,i,ll give it a real good thinkin over.


How often have you been playing of late and how often do you think you,ll be playing when the Summers finished in England?.

We all know how difficult Snooker is,especially when one has,nt played for a long time,or when one has,nt played often of late.You miss so many pots,especially often easy ones and talk bout struggling with positional play,

Well done sir! Getting to the last 16 if you've not played for a while is a great achievement. I've just got back from a practice session at the club after not playing for almost five months (an enforced layoff). I wasn't expecting much but after 25 mins I knocked in a 52 on the good old xmas tree routine. Pretty chuffed that I got my arm back in so quickly.

As for the guy who had a tantrum - I would love to see someone wigging out like that over a game of snooker. Don't think I'd be able to stop myself laughing out loud. Some people take club playing way too seriously!





Ta very much too Hendroid.


A 52!. I think you should try and play snooker more often and You'll then win a tournament.


Well tbh,i,d be very ch**sed off if i were to lose 3 - 2,when my opponent needed 2 snookers with only pink n black left.I think most,if not everyone would be ch**sed off

BUT!!!,i would,nt storm off n have a tantrum!. I would put on a brave face,i,d then go n and say,"well played".I,d then walk away n i,d probably go n get a drink.

Inside,i,d be havin a tantrum though, but the Gentleman i am,i would,nt show any signs of Tantrumness.


I in fact beat a guy 2 - 1 in a Tournament i played in last year.And i needed a snooker in the decider with only pink n black left.He wasnae a happy bun,but i,ll give him that,he did,nt complain,did,nt say any harsh,nasty words,he did,nt storm out in a tantrum.He shook my hand,said the usual,"well played" and he then bu**ered off to the bar. :)


As far as Tantrums are concerned,well HF had a right good un a few years back,i was absolutley fuming!!.

I,ll write a short summary bout that later tonight,or another time.Gotta go back to work soon.

McManusFan wrote:

hendry_fan wrote:Now,a few words bout the Final.


I only saw the last few frames.


I was of course Dissappointed that John once again did,nt manage to add another bit o Silverware,but Judging by the scoreing,Selby was very impressive,far too strong.


John was,nt gonna do much harm,by only managing to make three 50+ breaks!,but at least part of him not scoreing high enough,was highly likely mainly cause Mark had him under immense pressure,the way Mark was playing n scoreing was phenomenal!.




Johns now s now appeared in 56 Ranking finals,has (31 titles)

Hendry,Ranking finals: 57,(36 titles)

Ronnie,Ranking Finals = 64 (41 titles)



A BIG congrats to Selby.

It really is incredible that he,s won this Tournament,especially after whats he,s been through of late.Great to see him bounce back again. I really admire stuff like that.

It was a disappointing evening session, but you missed a ramtoozler of an afternoon one. Mark and John were both playing extremely well. It was pure bliss!

Hallo MMF.


It was probably better that i did,nt see much of the evening Session,cause me thinks,i,d of had a tantrum!.

But,aye,nah,listen.It all depends how john loses,if he were eg to serve up chips n eggs most o the match,well,of course i,d be BUT,Selby was clearly too good for him in that Evening Session,so fair play to Selby.


Johns now lost 5 Finals in a row,so it is a bit worrying that he might never win any more,but never doubt The Wizard of Wishaw,as he never ceases to amaze us.



Last but not least for the mom.How often have you been playin of late and how often will you be playing now that the summers over?.

Great read HF, enjoyed that!

Fantastic that Higgins got straight back into the 16, it obviously refocussed him.

Hendry_fan I usually aim to play once a week or every other week but prior to last Saturday I didn't play for like 6 weeks! I had a few 15 breaks on Saturday. Obviously that's not much but it's not bad for my standard lol. I did actually make a 29 break a few months ago! I was so gutted not to get beyond 30. Will I get a better chance again?

Dan-cat wrote:Great read HF, enjoyed that!

Fantastic that Higgins got straight back into the 16, it obviously refocussed him.

Ta very much mate.


John outta the Top 16!, Great auld John was havin none of it!.



G`WAN Sir Dan - Give us all an update on how you,ve been playing of late and at present.

How often have you been playin of late and will you been playin more often now that the Sun won,t be out as much in Espana?.

Juddernaut88 wrote:Hendry_fan I usually aim to play once a week or every other week but prior to last Saturday I didn't play for like 6 weeks! I had a few 15 breaks on Saturday. Obviously that's not much but it's not bad for my standard lol. I did actually make a 29 break a few months ago! I was so gutted not to get beyond 30. Will I get a better chance again?

When you made the 29 break,did you miss an easy pot which would o kept the break going,or did you miss a difficult one,or did you run out of position and had no pot to go for?.


"Will I get a better chance again?".IF YOU DON,T GET YOUR FINGERS OUT,YOU WON,T!!!!.


Aye,nah,listen mate!.If your highest break was lets say,in the 45 - 50 range,then i,d say nope,BUT!,30 is definatley beatable!.You also obviously have to get yur fingers out n play more.

I know the feeling though full well,when you have a chance to get 30 or over.


I made countless 20+ ers when i played a lot,when i was in my prime,but i only ever made about TEN 30+ ers in my entire Carreer!.

hendry_fan wrote:

Juddernaut88 wrote:Hendry_fan I usually aim to play once a week or every other week but prior to last Saturday I didn't play for like 6 weeks! I had a few 15 breaks on Saturday. Obviously that's not much but it's not bad for my standard lol. I did actually make a 29 break a few months ago! I was so gutted not to get beyond 30. Will I get a better chance again?

When you made the 29 break,did you miss an easy pot which would o kept the break going,or did you miss a difficult one,or did you run out of position and had no pot to go for?.


"Will I get a better chance again?".IF YOU DON,T GET YOUR FINGERS OUT,YOU WON,T!!!!.


Aye,nah,listen mate!.If your highest break was lets say,in the 45 - 50 range,then i,d say nope,BUT!,30 is definatley beatable!.You also obviously have to get yur fingers out n play more.

I know the feeling though full well,when you have a chance to get 30 or over.


I made countless 20+ ers when i played a lot,when i was in my prime,but i only ever made about TEN 30+ ers in my entire Carreer!.

I missed a mid range red so it wasn't a gimme and is the sort of Shot I miss a lot. I shall keep on trying and hopefully one day with a bit of luck I will get past 30.

Juddernaut88 wrote:

hendry_fan wrote:

Juddernaut88 wrote:Hendry_fan I usually aim to play once a week or every other week but prior to last Saturday I didn't play for like 6 weeks! I had a few 15 breaks on Saturday. Obviously that's not much but it's not bad for my standard lol. I did actually make a 29 break a few months ago! I was so gutted not to get beyond 30. Will I get a better chance again?

When you made the 29 break,did you miss an easy pot which would o kept the break going,or did you miss a difficult one,or did you run out of position and had no pot to go for?.


"Will I get a better chance again?".IF YOU DON,T GET YOUR FINGERS OUT,YOU WON,T!!!!.


Aye,nah,listen mate!.If your highest break was lets say,in the 45 - 50 range,then i,d say nope,BUT!,30 is definatley beatable!.You also obviously have to get yur fingers out n play more.

I know the feeling though full well,when you have a chance to get 30 or over.


I made countless 20+ ers when i played a lot,when i was in my prime,but i only ever made about TEN 30+ ers in my entire Carreer!.

I missed a mid range red so it wasn't a gimme and is the sort of Shot I miss a lot. I shall keep on trying and hopefully one day with a bit of luck I will get past 30.

Snooker is the most cruel and unforgiving mistress. We all know it. I played tonight against an old pal who hasn't picked up his cue for 15 years. And he wasn't very good in the first place. Early on he had a straight red three inches from the hole and he missed it. Yet somehow our first frame came down to the black (I potted it), he won the second frame ( ) and although I then pulled away and took him 3-1 with a points difference of +30 in both the last two frames, I was still annoyed at myself. How can I be regularly making 50s and 60s in practice but struggle to stay on top of a novice in a match situ?

(Is there a thread on the Island where we can discuss the progress of our practice/matches like this? I quite enjoy hearing how others are getting on)