Re: Betfred World Championship Final :- Trump v O'Sullivan
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Iranu wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Iranu wrote:TheRocket wrote:I think Judd will surpass his ranking title tally eventually but cant see anyone in the future win 7 World titles and 21 Triple Crown titles. And the old man isnt done yet either. So a few more titles probably to come.
Someone will beat his TC record eventually. Someone’s bound to. That’s what happens to records. It won’t happen for a long time though - particularly as like you say, he could still extend the record by a few.
The game as a whole is too balanced nowadays, too many good players, no one can dominate.
I don't think anyone will come close to his triple crown record.
But Judd can definitely beat his nr. of ranking events and tons, given how many events there are now.
People have said this about all sorts of records that have since been broken. It might not happen in the next 20, 50, or 100 years, but it will happen at some point.
After all, Ronnie has broken Hendry’s TC record without dominating like he did.
Iranu wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Iranu wrote:TheRocket wrote:I think Judd will surpass his ranking title tally eventually but cant see anyone in the future win 7 World titles and 21 Triple Crown titles. And the old man isnt done yet either. So a few more titles probably to come.
Someone will beat his TC record eventually. Someone’s bound to. That’s what happens to records. It won’t happen for a long time though - particularly as like you say, he could still extend the record by a few.
The game as a whole is too balanced nowadays, too many good players, no one can dominate.
I don't think anyone will come close to his triple crown record.
But Judd can definitely beat his nr. of ranking events and tons, given how many events there are now.
People have said this about all sorts of records that have since been broken. It might not happen in the next 20, 50, or 100 years, but it will happen at some point.
After all, Ronnie has broken Hendry’s TC record without dominating like he did.
LethalWeapon193 wrote:Honestly what a special evening. To be there to witness not only my favourite snooker player of all time, but my favourite sportsman of all time create history was truly special.
I took my Dad who had never been to the crucible before, his favourite player is Judd and even he was loving every minute and said how fully deserved Ronnie was. To spend that evening with my Dad as well just made it an even more special occasion.
Full respect to Judd he put up a great effort and is a fantastic player in his own right.
The night belonged however to the greatest player that has ever picked up a cue. What a special talent and what a special night. A night that will forever live with me.
Absolutely outstanding Ronnie O'Sullivan!
Iranu wrote:Higgins and Judd just weren’t in form. Nothing to do with aura in this cases.
Maguire and Gilbert probably were. Can’t remember Allen’s first round match.
TheRocket wrote:His pot success was around 94% every match and he scored as good as you can really. Just in the Higgins match he made 17 50+breaks including 5 tons. I dont think there have been many other World Championships where someone sustained this kind of form from start to finish. Probably only Hendry
TheRocket wrote:His pot success was around 94% every match and he scored as good as you can really. Just in the Higgins match he made 17 50+breaks including 5 tons. I dont think there have been many other World Championships where someone sustained this kind of form from start to finish. Probably only Hendry
Dan-cat wrote:TheRocket wrote:His pot success was around 94% every match and he scored as good as you can really. Just in the Higgins match he made 17 50+breaks including 5 tons. I dont think there have been many other World Championships where someone sustained this kind of form from start to finish. Probably only Hendry
Word.
And arguably everyone knew he was playing well and very dedicated this time which puts extra pressure on the chances his opponents got.
McManusFan wrote:Generally that's a fair point, and probably what happened against Allen and Maguire, but John and Judd weren't great for most of the tournament.
Not trying to take anything (well not much) away from Ronnie’s victories - he isn't responsible for his opponenets poor play. If Judd had played like he did in the 2019 final, he would have won.
Iranu wrote:McManusFan wrote:Generally that's a fair point, and probably what happened against Allen and Maguire, but John and Judd weren't great for most of the tournament.
Not trying to take anything (well not much) away from Ronnie’s victories - he isn't responsible for his opponenets poor play. If Judd had played like he did in the 2019 final, he would have won.
Yep. Higgins and Judd clawed their way to the semi and final respectively. Losing to Ronnie shouldn’t be a surprise.
I’m not sure the 2019 comment is particularly useful - not because you’re wrong but because that raises the issue of “if Ronnie played at x tournament form he would/could have won anyway”.
Ultimately, what happened happened and Judd should be extremely proud of his tournament. And Ronnie should be proud of a historic victory.
In terms of the final, I really don’t think anybody loses in the long run.
McManusFan wrote:Fair point as always.
TheRocket wrote:I rate this World Championship win as his best ever by a mile.
I cant argue against the bare numbers and facts. He has scored better in this than hes ever done and you look at the opponents he had to beat. Beating Higgins and Trump in the semi and final tops it anyway.
Allen is also another opponent who has a good H2H against him. Gilbert was one of the toughest qualifiers. But he destroyed all of them. Which only he can. And he had the pressure of equalling Hendrys record.
Holden Chinaski wrote:TheRocket wrote:I rate this World Championship win as his best ever by a mile.
I cant argue against the bare numbers and facts. He has scored better in this than hes ever done and you look at the opponents he had to beat. Beating Higgins and Trump in the semi and final tops it anyway.
Allen is also another opponent who has a good H2H against him. Gilbert was one of the toughest qualifiers. But he destroyed all of them. Which only he can. And he had the pressure of equalling Hendrys record.
And a documentary crew following him around.