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Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Wildey

sas6789 wrote:
TheRocket wrote:
mick745 wrote:Looking at Ronnie's draw i cant see him losing to Gilbert, Ronnie has been a bit of a first round specialist in recent years ( Cahill excepted of course).

Allen is a potential banana skin but Murphy or Xintong wouldnt cause too much problem for him in the qfs.

So if he reaches the one table set up its Higgins or Robertson potentially. There's not much else there for him really.

Whereas the top half, Selby could easily trip up in the first round but Bingtao is a dangerous l16 opponent, then potentially Williams, kyren, ding or trump.

I think No 1 seed has a lot trickier path than no 2 seed.

Having said that it is very rare that the top 8 seeds get to the qfs or the top 4 seeds get to sfs. There are always shocks and upsets.

Trying to predict how the draw for any of the players will pan out is very difficult.


I agree that Allen is the biggest threat to Ronnie before the semis. With Selby (although we cant say how good or bad he will be feeling out there mentally yet) there are a few banana skins.

For me Robertson has the best draw. First two rounds are absolutely ideal. Higgins could pose a threat in the quarters but Robertson beat him twice in big finals this season. If Robertson doesnt take advantage from this draw he never will.

Xintong?

Xintong has never played 3 session Matches he is a unknown at this level really

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Prop

sas6789 wrote:
Johnny Bravo wrote:ROS has a tough draw.
Selbo has an easy one.

You would say that wouldn't you.


<laugh>

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby TheRocket

sas6789 wrote:
TheRocket wrote:
mick745 wrote:Looking at Ronnie's draw i cant see him losing to Gilbert, Ronnie has been a bit of a first round specialist in recent years ( Cahill excepted of course).

Allen is a potential banana skin but Murphy or Xintong wouldnt cause too much problem for him in the qfs.

So if he reaches the one table set up its Higgins or Robertson potentially. There's not much else there for him really.

Whereas the top half, Selby could easily trip up in the first round but Bingtao is a dangerous l16 opponent, then potentially Williams, kyren, ding or trump.

I think No 1 seed has a lot trickier path than no 2 seed.

Having said that it is very rare that the top 8 seeds get to the qfs or the top 4 seeds get to sfs. There are always shocks and upsets.

Trying to predict how the draw for any of the players will pan out is very difficult.


I agree that Allen is the biggest threat to Ronnie before the semis. With Selby (although we cant say how good or bad he will be feeling out there mentally yet) there are a few banana skins.

For me Robertson has the best draw. First two rounds are absolutely ideal. Higgins could pose a threat in the quarters but Robertson beat him twice in big finals this season. If Robertson doesnt take advantage from this draw he never will.

Xintong?


Xintong still needs time imo to do real damage at the Crucible. He also plays the type of game which would suit Ronnie a lot. I would make Ronnie a solid favourite in a possible meeting in the quarters.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Iranu

I don’t see Xintong winning more than one match at this year’s WC. The jump will be too big, I think.

Having said that, I didn’t see him winning the UK either. In fact I didn’t see half the things that happened this season.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Prop

I think Zhao has gone a long way to proving his credentials in the longer format just recently. But the Crucible can do strange things to a player.

For me he’s as likely to crash out early as he is waft through the first few rounds like it’s nothing at all. Angles will be doing some talking about his lazy rhythm. That’ll be one of the things that carries him through if he does have a good run.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Iranu

SnookerFan wrote:Amended it to the way I like ot, Judder.

viewtopic.php?f=702&t=11939

Hope you don't mind. Your list was incredibly helpful. Made it q lot quicker for me to do, and helped me check that I hadn't made any mostakes.

If only he’d done a version of this post too.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby SnookerFan

Iranu wrote:
SnookerFan wrote:Amended it to the way I like ot, Judder.

viewtopic.php?f=702&t=11939

Hope you don't mind. Your list was incredibly helpful. Made it q lot quicker for me to do, and helped me check that I hadn't made any mostakes.

If only he’d done a version of this post too.


I used Judder's list. It was very helpful.

But I wanted one that had the match on Table 1 listed first, and Table 2 listed second. It helps me visualise it.

Or did he add a second list for that?

Sorry if you did, Judder.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Iranu

SnookerFan wrote:
Iranu wrote:
SnookerFan wrote:Amended it to the way I like ot, Judder.

viewtopic.php?f=702&t=11939

Hope you don't mind. Your list was incredibly helpful. Made it q lot quicker for me to do, and helped me check that I hadn't made any mostakes.

If only he’d done a version of this post too.


I used Judder's list. It was very helpful.

But I wanted one that had the match on Table 1 listed first, and Table 2 listed second. It helps me visualise it.

Or did he add a second list for that?

Sorry if you did, Judder.

Was just a joke about how many mistakes you made in your post about Judders helping you not make mistakes.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby SnookerFan

Think that I might stick mostly on Table 2 for the first round.

Might have to briefly foray into Mark Williams vs Michael White.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Wildey

Dan-cat wrote:And still we talk about Robertson. Every year <laugh>

Its a bad excuse about being cramped and not enough room if you look at his performances in that cramp space for the first 2 rounds hes flying then someone says BOO and he folds like a cheap tent every single time.

He Needs a Steve Peters with him to get over the mental barrier he has at the Crucible

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Iranu

Dave Hendon has been told that Dennis and Virgo are NOT doing their last WC this season.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby SnookerFan

Iranu wrote:Dave Hendon has been told that Dennis and Virgo are NOT doing their last WC this season.


Booooooo.

We got our hopes up.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby KrazeeEyezKilla

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:What the draw would like if it went 1v32, 16v17 etc...

Mark Selby v Lyu Haotian
Yan Bingtao v Scott Donaldson

Barry Hawkins v Michael White
Mark Williams v Stephen Maguire

Kyren Wilson v Jamie Jones
Stuart Bingham v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh

Anthony McGill v Ashley Hugill
Judd Trump v Ding Junhui

Neil Robertson v Chris Wakelin
Jack Lisowski v David Gilbert

Luca Brecel v Liam Highfield
John Higgins v Noppon Saengkham

Zhao Xintong v Jackson Page
Shaun Murphy v Matthew Stevens

Mark Allen v Hossein Vafaei
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Jamie Clarke


Not one of these matches got drawn.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Vallomas

Iranu wrote:Dave Hendon has been told that Dennis and Virgo are NOT doing their last WC this season.


Good news for Dennis Taylor fans. :happy:

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby LDS

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:What the draw would like if it went 1v32, 16v17 etc...

Mark Selby v Lyu Haotian
Yan Bingtao v Scott Donaldson

Barry Hawkins v Michael White
Mark Williams v Stephen Maguire

Kyren Wilson v Jamie Jones
Stuart Bingham v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh

Anthony McGill v Ashley Hugill
Judd Trump v Ding Junhui

Neil Robertson v Chris Wakelin
Jack Lisowski v David Gilbert

Luca Brecel v Liam Highfield
John Higgins v Noppon Saengkham

Zhao Xintong v Jackson Page
Shaun Murphy v Matthew Stevens

Mark Allen v Hossein Vafaei
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Jamie Clarke


Not one of these matches got drawn.


More's the pity, that was a really tasty list which matched a lot of interesting draws.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby McManusFan

Iranu wrote:Dave Hendon has been told that Dennis and Virgo are NOT doing their last WC this season.

As in they're already finished?

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Johnny Bravo

sas6789 wrote:
Johnny Bravo wrote:ROS has a tough draw.
Selbo has an easy one.

You would say that wouldn't you.

I was talking about the first round. Gilbert is a tougher draw than Jones.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Yanfan

McManusFan wrote:
Iranu wrote:Dave Hendon has been told that Dennis and Virgo are NOT doing their last WC this season.

As in they're already finished?

That's what I was wondering. Are they both going to be commentating on this World Championship?


I hope so. I'm not that fussed about Dennis Taylor, but I like Virgo.

'Where's the cue ball going?' always make me smile. :-)

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Yanfan

Iranu wrote:Sorry yeah. He said they’re doing next year too.

Oh, that's good. :-)

I like Virgo. <ok>

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Juddernaut88

Yanfan wrote:
Iranu wrote:Sorry yeah. He said they’re doing next year too.

Oh, that's good. :-)

I like Virgo. <ok>


Same here. John Virgo is the best.

Re: The Crucible Countdown !!!!

Postby Cloud Strife

mick745 wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:
Johnny Bravo wrote:ROS has a tough draw.
Selbo has an easy one.


Neil Robertson looks favourite to me and the bookies agree. Neil knows how to take advantage of a mild draw and he has one here.


Neil has nothing really before the quarters but he could get unstuck against Higgins.

If his problem is not enough space at the crucible then getting to the one table set up will be the tricky bit for him.

Higgins obviously has to get past Un- Nooh and Brecel first though.


Yeah, not enough space to strut around like a peacock. That has always been a big issue for him.


   

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