Betfred World Championship (Fri April 23rd) Last 16!!!

Andre147 wrote:Bingtao can become youngest ever WC, 1 month younger than Hendry.

I doubt he can do it, but you never know.

Pink Ball wrote:

Andre147 wrote:Bingtao can become youngest ever WC, 1 month younger than Hendry.

I doubt he can do it, but you never know.

That would be wonderful, but I can't see him winning it this year.

Pink Ball wrote:

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:

Iranu wrote:I think what we need to remember is that every player, including top players, loses to players they shouldn’t.

The difference is Ronnie’s the only one who’s been good enough to build up such a strong record against so many good players.

This is precisely why Ronnie O'Sullivan is the greatest player of all time. If emotions came into it, I'd prefer Hendry to take it, but emotions cannot come into it. O'Sullivan's record stands up better than anyone else's.

But buck him, he's out this year, and I'm happy he's gone.

Hendry's record is better where it counts the most. Hendry > O'Sullivan.

I cannot argue with he who chooses to let his emotions rule over logic.

csprince wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:

Andre147 wrote:Bingtao can become youngest ever WC, 1 month younger than Hendry.

I doubt he can do it, but you never know.

That would be wonderful, but I can't see him winning it this year.

a lot of people didn't think he would win the masters.

Juddernaut88 wrote:Ace are you feeling confident about Judds chances this year? I'm just taking it one game at a time at the moment and not getting carried away. Really hope he can do it this year though.

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:This is precisely why Ronnie O'Sullivan is the greatest player of all time. If emotions came into it, I'd prefer Hendry to take it, but emotions cannot come into it. O'Sullivan's record stands up better than anyone else's.

But buck him, he's out this year, and I'm happy he's gone.

Hendry's record is better where it counts the most. Hendry > O'Sullivan.

I cannot argue with he who chooses to let his emotions rule over logic.

-Achievements outweigh opinion every time- Clive Everton

csprince wrote:

Ck147 wrote:Hello csp, how you doing?

not to bad hope your well.

Acé wrote:

Georgi1914 wrote:

Acé wrote:

Andre147 wrote:

Acé wrote:Ronnie battles more now cuz he HAS to, kind of has no choice because the game doesn't come easy as it once did when he was 20s or 30s, or even early 40s...

so he has to rely on his B game far more and he knows this

That's right.

Ronnie from 2001 wouldn't find himself losing 7 frames on the spin against the likes of McGill would he?

But that's life, you dont get any younger. Still very proud of what he's achieved, he may have a 7th world title left in him, maybe next year not being defending champ.

No of course not lol younger Ronnie would've trahsed the first session 6-2 or 7-1 after a 4-1 lead, he wasn't under any pressure then loses 9/10 frames after that

Funny enough ROS could do with a hard draw like last year to shape him up from the get go , in the last 7 years he's lost to players that he was favourite or heavy favourite against

2015 Bingham, 2016 Hawkins, 2017 Ding, 2018 Carter, 2019 Cahill, 2021 McGill

And then again you mention players he didn't have to lose to and he did as a younger player back then. It was always a weakness of Ronnie to let weaker players to get under his skin for the big one after years of trashing them. It happens time after time again but it is usually followed by a convincingly winning of the title after a few big upsets. Ironically, with all the Crucible experince he has, he felt the pressure again after that in-off foul in the sixth frame against McGill. He was never losing that match from 5:1 up. It is defintely not an age thing. But his old habit to feel the presssure at times against weaker opponents that he used to trash in the past. He was more than ready to face the big names this time, I reckon, but he wasn't ready to be fully pressure free against McGIill. Age is a factor, but not nearly as big as some people consider it to be.

Like? Bring out the stats

here I'll do it:

2002 - Hendry
2003 - Fu
2005 - Ebdon
2006 - Dott
2007 - Higgins
2009 - Allen
2010 - Selby
2011 - Higgins

Those opponents are tougher than the ones he lost 2015+ at the Crucible it's not even close dude and none of those guys he used to trash either or be heavy favourite against

he used to trash guys like Bingham, Hawkins, Carter etc so my point still stands which is obvious, he's lost to players that he has a great H2H against or is favourite/heavy favourite against

and this trend only started from 2015

Pink Ball wrote:

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:This is precisely why Ronnie O'Sullivan is the greatest player of all time. If emotions came into it, I'd prefer Hendry to take it, but emotions cannot come into it. O'Sullivan's record stands up better than anyone else's.

But buck him, he's out this year, and I'm happy he's gone.

Hendry's record is better where it counts the most. Hendry > O'Sullivan.

I cannot argue with he who chooses to let his emotions rule over logic.

-Achievements outweigh opinion every time- Clive Everton

Knowledge is to know that Stephen Hendry has won more World Championships than Ronnie O'Sullivan.
Wisdom is to know that Stephen Hendry faced much weaker fields than Ronnie O'Sullivan did, and this makes Hendry's seven titles less impressive than O'Sullivan's six.

You have knowledge, old chap, nobody here doubts that; I don't doubt that. But you have the wisdom of a gentleman far younger than your years.

Ck147 wrote:

csprince wrote:

Ck147 wrote:Hello csp, how you doing?

not to bad hope your well.

I'm good, work has been busy and other stuff going on so not been on here as much as usual but rectifying that for the WSC! Haven't seen you on here much, good to see you back!

csprince wrote:

Juddernaut88 wrote:Ace are you feeling confident about Judds chances this year? I'm just taking it one game at a time at the moment and not getting carried away. Really hope he can do it this year though.

i'd like to see trump or robertson win but someone like bingtao would be cool.

Georgi1914 wrote:Vodkadiet is definitely quite thick by the way. I honestly thought he had some brains at one point and said to myself: "Well, he's just a grumpy vegan!"
But he proved me wrong tonight?
. He's not just grumpy. He's immature and hateful. It's a pity really, because I have seen better from him in some rare instances.

Ck147 wrote:

Georgi1914 wrote:Vodkadiet is definitely quite thick by the way. I honestly thought he had some brains at one point and said to myself: "Well, he's just a grumpy vegan!"
But he proved me wrong tonight?
. He's not just grumpy. He's immature and hateful. It's a pity really, because I have seen better from him in some rare instances.

Don't take it personally, the poor guy has been eating twigs and sh!t for years. I've said to him before our brains evolved to where we are because our ancestors ate fish and animals. He is proving why our brains need us to eat fish/animals.

Georgi1914 wrote:Vodkadiet is definitely quite thick by the way. I honestly thought he had some brains at one point and said to myself: "Well, he's just a grumpy vegan!"
But he proved me wrong tonight?
. He's not just grumpy. He's immature and hateful. It's a pity really, because I have seen better from him in some rare instances.

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Ck147 wrote:

Georgi1914 wrote:Vodkadiet is definitely quite thick by the way. I honestly thought he had some brains at one point and said to myself: "Well, he's just a grumpy vegan!"
But he proved me wrong tonight?
. He's not just grumpy. He's immature and hateful. It's a pity really, because I have seen better from him in some rare instances.

Don't take it personally, the poor guy has been eating twigs and sh!t for years. I've said to him before our brains evolved to where we are because our ancestors ate fish and animals. He is proving why our brains need us to eat fish/animals.

The same applies to Robertson in that case. Why are you supporting him you clown/corpse muncher/udder sucker?

Vegans happen to be ahead on the evolution bell curve but you are too limited in the ivory dome department to understand that.

Ck147 wrote:

vodkadiet1 wrote:

Ck147 wrote:

Georgi1914 wrote:Vodkadiet is definitely quite thick by the way. I honestly thought he had some brains at one point and said to myself: "Well, he's just a grumpy vegan!"
But he proved me wrong tonight?
. He's not just grumpy. He's immature and hateful. It's a pity really, because I have seen better from him in some rare instances.

Don't take it personally, the poor guy has been eating twigs and sh!t for years. I've said to him before our brains evolved to where we are because our ancestors ate fish and animals. He is proving why our brains need us to eat fish/animals.

The same applies to Robertson in that case. Why are you supporting him you clown/corpse muncher/udder sucker?

Vegans happen to be ahead on the evolution bell curve but you are too limited in the ivory dome department to understand that.

Wrong, you'd still be swinging in trees without meat/fish in your diet, scientific fact, undeniable. Robbo only went vegan a couple of years ago, he's already derived the benefit of a meat/fish diet. Sad watching friends kids who were raised vegan not meeting potential of meat/fish eating friends.

Your vegan overlords probably aren't impressed with your work on here, will you get demoted to 3rd under loop of the vegan triangle clan?

csprince wrote:if the calender goes back to normal the riga would be june/july.

Cloud Strife wrote:

csprince wrote:if the calender goes back to normal the riga would be june/july.

That's the one Judd will be eyeing. No doubt, he is using the Crucible as practice for Riga.