by SnookerFan » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Johnny Bravo wrote:If not, ROS will be one year older the next time they stage it and thus his chances of winning it will be smaller.
SnookerFan wrote:Wildey wrote:Some of the most exciting, Nerve wrecking matches have actually happened when hardly nobody watching but when you get to the final night at say 17-17 and nobody there you will miss it big time.
No, I get it would be strange playing in front of nobody. Especially at a venue as small as The Crucible. But, I don't think it would bother me as much as some are suggesting.
These people saying they'd rather not have it, then have it in front of nobody. I disagree.
by Johnny Bravo » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Pink Ball wrote:Zero chance Ding doesn’t play. Zero chance Ding doesn’t win the tournament.
by Johnny Bravo » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Badsnookerplayer wrote:vodkadiet1 wrote:Pink Ball wrote:Zero chance Ding doesn’t play. Zero chance Ding doesn’t win the tournament.
Zero chance this tournament will be played.
Come July and you will be the only vegan wearing egg on their face.
by Johnny Bravo » 24 Apr 2020 Read
SnookerFan wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:If not, ROS will be one year older the next time they stage it and thus his chances of winning it will be smaller.
Yes, that's the main concern.
by PLtheRef » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Iranu wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Wildey wrote:Some of the most exciting, Nerve wrecking matches have actually happened when hardly nobody watching but when you get to the final night at say 17-17 and nobody there you will miss it big time.
No, I get it would be strange playing in front of nobody. Especially at a venue as small as The Crucible. But, I don't think it would bother me as much as some are suggesting.
These people saying they'd rather not have it, then have it in front of nobody. I disagree.
I agree with this. It would be a neutered version but it would be better than nothing. And I can’t see how they could stage it much later than July anyway.
Even if it was in the middle of the season there aren’t exactly many 17 day breaks between tournaments and cancelling other tournaments to stage the Worlds wouldn’t be right.
Having said that I do also agree with Wild, there’s no way to practise social distancing in terms of the players being on the same table.
It’s an impossible situation that WST are doing their best to manufacture a solution from.
by Pink Ball » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Johnny Bravo wrote:Pink Ball wrote:Zero chance Ding doesn’t play. Zero chance Ding doesn’t win the tournament.
Agree with the first part, totally disagree with the second.
Iranu wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Wildey wrote:Some of the most exciting, Nerve wrecking matches have actually happened when hardly nobody watching but when you get to the final night at say 17-17 and nobody there you will miss it big time.
No, I get it would be strange playing in front of nobody. Especially at a venue as small as The Crucible. But, I don't think it would bother me as much as some are suggesting.
These people saying they'd rather not have it, then have it in front of nobody. I disagree.
I agree with this. It would be a neutered version but it would be better than nothing. And I can’t see how they could stage it much later than July anyway.
Even if it was in the middle of the season there aren’t exactly many 17 day breaks between tournaments and cancelling other tournaments to stage the Worlds wouldn’t be right.
Having said that I do also agree with Wild, there’s no way to practise social distancing in terms of the players being on the same table.
It’s an impossible situation that WST are doing their best to manufacture a solution from.
by SnookerFan » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Wildey wrote:Iranu wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Wildey wrote:Some of the most exciting, Nerve wrecking matches have actually happened when hardly nobody watching but when you get to the final night at say 17-17 and nobody there you will miss it big time.
No, I get it would be strange playing in front of nobody. Especially at a venue as small as The Crucible. But, I don't think it would bother me as much as some are suggesting.
These people saying they'd rather not have it, then have it in front of nobody. I disagree.
I agree with this. It would be a neutered version but it would be better than nothing. And I can’t see how they could stage it much later than July anyway.
Even if it was in the middle of the season there aren’t exactly many 17 day breaks between tournaments and cancelling other tournaments to stage the Worlds wouldn’t be right.
Having said that I do also agree with Wild, there’s no way to practise social distancing in terms of the players being on the same table.
It’s an impossible situation that WST are doing their best to manufacture a solution from.
i just think players want to play if its safe just get something on anything on. Hearn managed to get the PTC up and running very quickly lets not use the Biggest event as some sort of desparation to get live sport back on the box it deserves better than that.
by SnookerFan » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Wildey wrote:Comentators will be comentating from home.. Hazel will present the show from bed and Steve Davis will be Working on his DJing inbetween analasis from his kitchen.
by Alex0paul » 24 Apr 2020 Read
by SnookerFan » 24 Apr 2020 Read
Alex0paul wrote:It seems the tickets will roll over to next year if it’s played behind closed doors if you don’t get a refund
SnookerFan wrote:Alex0paul wrote:It seems the tickets will roll over to next year if it’s played behind closed doors if you don’t get a refund
I have requested the refund. Sad, I know. But don't really like the uncertainty.
Did manage to cancel my Annual Leave from work though.
by SnookerFan » 25 Apr 2020 Read
Ck147 wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Alex0paul wrote:It seems the tickets will roll over to next year if it’s played behind closed doors if you don’t get a refund
I have requested the refund. Sad, I know. But don't really like the uncertainty.
Did manage to cancel my Annual Leave from work though.
Glad you got your annual leave back
by Badsnookerplayer » 25 Apr 2020 Read
Ck147 wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Alex0paul wrote:It seems the tickets will roll over to next year if it’s played behind closed doors if you don’t get a refund
I have requested the refund. Sad, I know. But don't really like the uncertainty.
Did manage to cancel my Annual Leave from work though.
Glad you got your annual leave back
by SnookerFan » 25 Apr 2020 Read
Badsnookerplayer wrote:Ck147 wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Alex0paul wrote:It seems the tickets will roll over to next year if it’s played behind closed doors if you don’t get a refund
I have requested the refund. Sad, I know. But don't really like the uncertainty.
Did manage to cancel my Annual Leave from work though.
Glad you got your annual leave back
I hear lots of real fans of snooker are not requesting refunds so as not to kick the sport in the teeth when it is in financial crisis. Amazing really.
by Alex0paul » 25 Apr 2020 Read
by Pink Ball » 25 Apr 2020 Read
Alex0paul wrote:Lots of positive talk in the media about sport restarting in 2 weeks or so
by SnookerFan » 25 Apr 2020 Read
Pink Ball wrote:Alex0paul wrote:Lots of positive talk in the media about sport restarting in 2 weeks or so
Can’t see it
Prop wrote:If it goes ahead it’s going to benefit the game immeasurably for the next few years. A compromised WC might not sit favourably with traditionalists, but to get something - anything - that at least resembles the Worlds onto screens this summer would set a huge precedent in terms of the other big tournaments at the end of 2020 and into 2021. It’s important to recognise the wider value in making this happen.
Scenario A: It doesn’t happen. The reasons and justification for vetoing the attempt inevitably get carried forward to the UK, Masters, and so on. We’re not likely to be in a hugely different world in terms of social distancing until at least 12 months from now. So a refusal in July is probably a refusal in November and in January. The same argument will conclude in the same way.
Scenario B: It happens. It’s nothing like we’re used to, and those traditionalists will inevitably moan. But, it’s a big win for the future. If they can do it in July, they can do it in November, and so on.
This happening, in itself, is not the be all and end all. It is, however, the thin end of the wedge. The success of this proposal and the health of snooker over the coming years are intrinsically linked.
Wildey wrote:Prop wrote:If it goes ahead it’s going to benefit the game immeasurably for the next few years. A compromised WC might not sit favourably with traditionalists, but to get something - anything - that at least resembles the Worlds onto screens this summer would set a huge precedent in terms of the other big tournaments at the end of 2020 and into 2021. It’s important to recognise the wider value in making this happen.
Scenario A: It doesn’t happen. The reasons and justification for vetoing the attempt inevitably get carried forward to the UK, Masters, and so on. We’re not likely to be in a hugely different world in terms of social distancing until at least 12 months from now. So a refusal in July is probably a refusal in November and in January. The same argument will conclude in the same way.
Scenario B: It happens. It’s nothing like we’re used to, and those traditionalists will inevitably moan. But, it’s a big win for the future. If they can do it in July, they can do it in November, and so on.
This happening, in itself, is not the be all and end all. It is, however, the thin end of the wedge. The success of this proposal and the health of snooker over the coming years are intrinsically linked.
No ts not a big win if we are blackmailed by the media to do something thats not beneficial for the sport we lose.
Could you imagine Football playing 5 a side because the BBC Wants it or Tennis playing with top 32 at wimbledon not a chance principles is extreamly important going forward.
by SnookerFan » 26 Apr 2020 Read
by Pink Ball » 26 Apr 2020 Read
by SnookerFan » 26 Apr 2020 Read
Pink Ball wrote:Today I learned that snooker is being blackmailed by the media.
SnookerFan wrote:I don't mind that they make a tournament that is top-16 only, or whatever.
But don't call it The World Championship. Call it The Coronavirus Classic or whatever.
You don't deserve to be called World Champion if you won a compromised tournament.
by Andre147 » 27 Apr 2020 Read
Wildey wrote:SnookerFan wrote:I don't mind that they make a tournament that is top-16 only, or whatever.
But don't call it The World Championship. Call it The Coronavirus Classic or whatever.
You don't deserve to be called World Champion if you won a compromised tournament.
you cant call it a ranking event either all players has to be able to play in a ranking tournament.
by PLtheRef » 27 Apr 2020 Read
Andre147 wrote:Wildey wrote:SnookerFan wrote:I don't mind that they make a tournament that is top-16 only, or whatever.
But don't call it The World Championship. Call it The Coronavirus Classic or whatever.
You don't deserve to be called World Champion if you won a compromised tournament.
you cant call it a ranking event either all players has to be able to play in a ranking tournament.
The Coral events are also ranking events but every player gets the same chance to enter them, provided they got good enough results to be in the 1 year list Top 32, 16 and 8.
An event like the World Champs however isn't based on that kind of order of merit, so all 16 seeded players plus another 16 who got through the qualifiers make the 32 man field at the venue. It doesn't work any other way.
by Andre147 » 27 Apr 2020 Read
PLtheRef wrote:Andre147 wrote:Wildey wrote:SnookerFan wrote:I don't mind that they make a tournament that is top-16 only, or whatever.
But don't call it The World Championship. Call it The Coronavirus Classic or whatever.
You don't deserve to be called World Champion if you won a compromised tournament.
you cant call it a ranking event either all players has to be able to play in a ranking tournament.
The Coral events are also ranking events but every player gets the same chance to enter them, provided they got good enough results to be in the 1 year list Top 32, 16 and 8.
An event like the World Champs however isn't based on that kind of order of merit, so all 16 seeded players plus another 16 who got through the qualifiers make the 32 man field at the venue. It doesn't work any other way.
They do but then again isn't there the argument that the players who qualify for those events get ranking points twice, thrice and in the case of the top eight four times for the same achievement.