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Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

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Sunday 14th~Sunday 21st of January at Alexandra Palace, London

After missing out in 2018 Neil Robertson is back in the Masters his 13th apearance having won it in 2012 and also back after his suspension last year is 2015 World Champion Stuart Bingham playing Ronnie O'Sullivan.

Jack Lisowski will be making his Masters debut this year playing Ding Junhui and in a repeat of last years 1st round Defending Champion Mark Allen will be starting out against Luca Brecel.

This is the 45th staging of the Tournament dating back to 1975 when John Spencer beat his great Rivel Ray Reardon 9-8 to win the Title.

DRAW
Mark Allen v Luca Brecel
Ding Junhui v Jack Lisowski
John Higgins v Ryan Day
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Stuart Bingham
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Mark Selby v Stephen Maguire
Judd Trump v Kyren Wilson
Barry Hawkins v Shaun Murphy
Mark J Williams v Neil Robertson


ORDER OF PLAY

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Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Holden Chinaski wrote:Players who have won The Masters more than once:

    Ronnie O'Sullivan (7)
    Stephen Hendry (6)
    Cliff Thorburn (3)
    Steve Davis (3)
    Paul Hunter (3)
    Mark Selby (3)
    Alex Higgins (2)
    Mark Williams (2)
    John Higgins (2)

You can definitly see Selby winning it again at some point but i cant see anyone other than him getting close to 7

9 Players on that list with 5 of them Retired or decesed.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby D4P

SnookerFan wrote:I'd be amazed if Selby won it this year.


His performance at the "BBC events" the past few years has been shockingly poor. He also has a really tough draw this year...

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby SnookerFan

It's his performances, especially at these BBC events that bother me. Selby has been World Number One for about 300 years, and has proven his pedigree at The Masters and at other events.

But he's been patchy by his standards the past couple of years. Not that he can't do it. But I think it's unlikely that he will this year.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

Selby will probably end his career with 4 or 5 Masters, similar to the Worlds I think...

But this year I dont he can win. On the other hand, these horrendus BBC performances will end at some point.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

Looking forward to it. Sadly wont be there on opening day so hopefully I dont miss a classic match lol...

Looking at the matches I'd say...

Allen wins 6-5
Ding wins 6-4
Day wins 6-4
Ronnie wins 6-3
Selby wins 6-3
Trump wins 6-4
Hawkins wins 6-4
Robertson wins 6-4

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Ash147

Selby hasn't played well at at TC event since his 2017 World Championship win, where he played probably his best ever snooker.

It always surprises me that John Higgins has only won the Masters twice.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby SnookerFan

Andre147 wrote:Looking forward to it. Sadly wont be there on opening day so hopefully I dont miss a classic match lol...

Looking at the matches I'd say...

Allen wins 6-5
Ding wins 6-4
Day wins 6-4
Ronnie wins 6-3
Selby wins 6-3
Trump wins 6-4
Hawkins wins 6-4
Robertson wins 6-4


Robbo beating Williams?

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby HappyCamper

Selby is a proven great. It would not remotely be a surprise if he won the Masters.

What TV channel is broadcasting the event is totally irrelevant.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby KrazeeEyezKilla

Pink Ball wrote:Nothing screams ‘elite’ quite like an opening-round match involving Luca Brecel


He looked so out of place in the draw last month. Before rolling rankings there was at least one player like that every year.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Badsnookerplayer

I am enjoying the pre-tournament.

It has an air of anticipation about it that is impossible to recapture once the event has begun, and contrasts sharply with the post-euphoric comedown that is inevitable the day after the event. To summarise, I would rank things as follows:

1. Tournament
2. Pre-tournament
3. Post tournament

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Iranu

Maybe it's just the post-Christmas anticipation for the 2nd half of the season, but this may be my favourite tournament on the calendar.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Johnny Bravo

Wildey wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:Players who have won The Masters more than once:

    Ronnie O'Sullivan (7)
    Stephen Hendry (6)
    Cliff Thorburn (3)
    Steve Davis (3)
    Paul Hunter (3)
    Mark Selby (3)
    Alex Higgins (2)
    Mark Williams (2)
    John Higgins (2)

You can definitly see Selby winning it again at some point but i cant see anyone other than him getting close to 7

9 Players on that list with 5 of them Retired or decesed.


Maybe Hendry makes a comeback :chuckle:

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Johnny Bravo wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Holden Chinaski wrote:Players who have won The Masters more than once:

    Ronnie O'Sullivan (7)
    Stephen Hendry (6)
    Cliff Thorburn (3)
    Steve Davis (3)
    Paul Hunter (3)
    Mark Selby (3)
    Alex Higgins (2)
    Mark Williams (2)
    John Higgins (2)

You can definitly see Selby winning it again at some point but i cant see anyone other than him getting close to 7

9 Players on that list with 5 of them Retired or decesed.


Maybe Hendry makes a comeback :chuckle:

More Chance of Patsy Fagan Making a comeback.

Afterall hes always at the Masters.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Badsnookerplayer wrote:I have not forgiven Patsy Fagan yet for his behaviour against Taylor.

Have a look at it if you like but I am still bucking steaming about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbFH2FOXyhc

rubbish behaviour.

I will give it time as they say that time will heal all wounds.

Fucken bastard.

For me that was a concession no if buts or maybe about it.

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby Badsnookerplayer

SnookerFan wrote:Are there actually any rules surrounding concessions? Do you have to physically say it?

Genuine question.

All I could find was this:

Conceding
A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to
accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent
chooses to play on.


I think it relies on decent sportsmanship

Re: Dafabet Masters Pre Tournament Discussion !!

Postby SnookerFan

Badsnookerplayer wrote:
SnookerFan wrote:Are there actually any rules surrounding concessions? Do you have to physically say it?

Genuine question.

All I could find was this:

Conceding
A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to
accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent
chooses to play on.


I think it relies on decent sportsmanship


In some ways, we're lucky that it doesn't come up more often then.

I'm not sure I entirely blame the referee in that situation. If the rules aren't clear, they aren't clear.