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TheRocket wrote:Yuan was lucky imo. An experienced ref like Verhaas or Collier might have called a foul there. Handshake or not. But I'm pretty sure they would have waited and watched closely that cue ball travelling towards the rest.

TheRocket wrote:Yuan was lucky imo. An experienced ref like Verhaas or Collier might have called a foul there. Handshake or not. But I'm pretty sure they would have waited and watched closely that cue ball travelling towards the rest.

Andre147 wrote:

Iranu wrote:Weak reffing not to call the foul there when he noiced? Or in keeping with the spirit of the game?

Personally my view on this is "rules is rules" but I wonder whether the handshake has officially brought an end to the match and the ref at that point couldn't pull things back even if he wanted to.

Are you around Andre? What are your thoughts?

First of all, this is a foul, as the cue ball didnt stop moving, so it would have gone to a respotted black in this case.

However, despite many of you not seeing that ref on TV too often, he is an experienced referee, just not so on TV too much.

It was a mistake no doubt, in this case a very costly one. The handshake has nothing to do with it, ref should have called the Foul 7.

Iranu wrote:

Andre147 wrote:

Iranu wrote:Weak reffing not to call the foul there when he noiced? Or in keeping with the spirit of the game?

Personally my view on this is "rules is rules" but I wonder whether the handshake has officially brought an end to the match and the ref at that point couldn't pull things back even if he wanted to.

Are you around Andre? What are your thoughts?

First of all, this is a foul, as the cue ball didnt stop moving, so it would have gone to a respotted black in this case.

However, despite many of you not seeing that ref on TV too often, he is an experienced referee, just not so on TV too much.

It was a mistake no doubt, in this case a very costly one. The handshake has nothing to do with it, ref should have called the Foul 7.

Thanks for the info Andre I just wondered if the handshake signalled Higgins' concession and therefore the foul couldn't be called after that had happened.

Iranu wrote:That's not what I mean Andre. I totally agree that the ref should have waited to see if the white hit the rest before calling frame and match.

I was wondering if, once he had failed to do that, he couldn't then call the foul after the handshake because Higgins had already 'conceded' the frame and match. Or would he be able to withdraw the awarding of the frame and match after the handshake and call the foul if he wanted to?

SnookerFan wrote:See, this is why we need Andre refereeing televised matches.

TheRocket wrote:imagine if the ref had called the foul. Higgins might have won the respotted black and went on to win the tournament. lol. But we'll never know anyway.

Andre147 wrote:

SnookerFan wrote:See, this is why we need Andre refereeing televised matches.

Maybe one day... working on it.

TheRocket wrote:imagine if the ref had called the foul. Higgins might have won the respotted black and went on to win the tournament. lol. But we'll never know anyway.

Andre147 wrote:

Iranu wrote:Weak reffing not to call the foul there when he noiced? Or in keeping with the spirit of the game?

Personally my view on this is "rules is rules" but I wonder whether the handshake has officially brought an end to the match and the ref at that point couldn't pull things back even if he wanted to.

Are you around Andre? What are your thoughts?

First of all, this is a foul, as the cue ball didnt stop moving, so it would have gone to a respotted black in this case.

However, despite many of you not seeing that ref on TV too often, he is an experienced referee, just not so on TV too much.

It was a mistake no doubt, in this case a very costly one. The handshake has nothing to do with it, ref should have called the Foul 7.

Andre147 wrote:

SnookerFan wrote:See, this is why we need Andre refereeing televised matches.

Maybe one day... working on it.

SnookerFan wrote:Oooooh. And that's a bad miss.