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Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby Tonsgalore

It’s a conversation been had many times but do we need an expensive cue to play well?

The obvious answer is no. We all know this but why do so many of us still get drawn into buying a hand made cue worth hundreds and sometimes thousands of pounds.

How many of you would actually know the cue you’ve purchased for £500-£600-£700 is not a cheaper cue rebadged? It happens.
How many cue makers will actually let you go to their workshop and see the process of making a cue? Will Hunt says you can on his website but he’s the only one I’ve ever heard of allowing it. There’s plenty that say you CAN’T go to their workshop. Why? I would love to see the processes of cue making up close.
Why do the majority of us buy blind? Surely it’s best to go and try a few cues of different spec to see how it feels? Again there is only one place I know you can go and do that.
Even the astronomical cost of a JP cue off the shelf in his shop and he still won’t allow you to take shots with it before hand. Seems crazy to think people will lay out £500-£800 for a cue without trying it out.

What’s your thoughts?

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby GeF

I went to John Parris cue one day.
I asked him, "If I buy the same cue as ROS, will I play like him?"
He said, "I can not guarantee it" (laugh)

I did not buy the cue.

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby rekoons

IIRC Ken Doherty's cue is bent like a banana, he picked it up as a young lad from his snooker club (or got it as a gift from the club owner, don't remember exactly)

Mine is also a cheap one, broke it once (split around the joint) got it repaired, but now the bottom part of the shaft is without the traditional 4 black spiky things/points/arrows (don't know how they're called)

Actually it's an ugly cue, but I got used to it so no reason to change really.

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby GeF

Dan-cat wrote:
GeF wrote:I went to John Parris cue one day.
I asked him, "If I buy the same cue as ROS, will I play like him?"
He said, "I can not guarantee it" (laugh)

I did not buy the cue.


Did you base your decision on his answer?

It was just an imagination. I never go to Parris Cue.

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby chengdufan

Great story GeF.
I bought mine from my playing partner for a tenner. Shortly after he bought it, his dad gave him a much better one for his birthday.
It seems to do the job. I've played with better ones from the rack at the club, but that's always a bit hit and miss

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby LezLee

Definitely Not, find something that your happy with it doesn’t have to be expensive. It’s abit like my m8, baught a set of Golf Clubs for just under a grand and I regularly beat him with my set from a second hand shop for a tenner.

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby Dan-cat

Good to revisit this. I play pool very competently with a cheap cue. The tip came off during a match and the owner of the club leant me one of his €400 cues. It was so perfect, so delightfully solid, I played like a demon with it.

so. I dunno! I want that cue! he won't sell it to me.

Re: Do you really need an expensive cue to play well

Postby Prop

The short answer is no.

However, as in Dan’s case, if you’re playing with a nasty bar stick with a bad tip, low mass, poor weight balance and floppy shaft (matron!), you will definitely benefit from using a better cue.

I’m in a position through work where I get to do quality control on lots of cues, many approaching the £1k mark, which naturally involves testing them properly on the table. Mega stiff shafts, lovely weight balance, titanium/stainless ferrules, fancy tips, all that good stuff. I haven’t played with a single cue that feels markedly ‘better’ than my old machine-spliced £80 cue that I’ve had for 20 odd years. Its equivalent goes for about £150 these days, but still, you get the point.

The jump in quality from that nasty £20 bar stick up to a £100-150 quid cue is the biggest and most tangible. The jump from a £150 quid cue to a £900 cue isn’t nearly as big. After a point, the majority of cost is down to labour and material cost/value - creating lovely-looking splices with exotic woods, fancy veneers, that sort of thing. And it’s down to the rarity and desirability of the rare pieces of ash that are going to produce a cue with those distinct chevrons/arrows in the grain all the way up the shaft. A batch of say 100 pieces of ash, that will all go on to become good cues, might only contain two or three pieces that are earmarked for their stiffness and their aesthetically perfect grain arrows. These are the ones that tend to go for big money.

It’s like a lot of things - the law of diminishing returns. If you’ve got a healthy budget and you’re into ‘lovely bits of wood’ (ooh errr!), there’s nothing wrong with paying thousands for a John Parris or whatever. But you’ll never get around the cost of labour in making a beautifully spliced butt and the value/demand for those special bits of ash.