Dafabet Masters Round 1 : Neil Robertson v Marco Fu

Skullman wrote:Don't think snooker really has the same four majors model as tennis and golf. Worlds is head and shoulders above the rest in terms of prestige and format (and money), and there's no real consensus on whether the IC (or any other event) counts.

Yes it's not like tennis and golf really, but you can't deny those 4 tournaments are the most important on the calendar nowadays.

The Grand Prix i meant of course

Ronnie79 wrote:I know Skullman but there used to be 4 major its a shame the BBC dropped that or rebranded it as that world open crap and then dropped it

Was the Grand Prix really all that prestigious or did the BBC just say it was because they like to think their tournaments are the only ones that really count?

It had great prestige back in the day my man

Skullman wrote:

Ronnie79 wrote:I know Skullman but there used to be 4 major its a shame the BBC dropped that or rebranded it as that world open crap and then dropped it

Was the Grand Prix really all that prestigious or did the BBC just say it was because they like to think their tournaments are the only ones that really count?

It used to carry more ranking points than the regular rankers, maybe that's why.

But I know where you're getting at, every tournament the Beeb doesn't broadcast is like it doesn't exist.

Who else was showing snooker then there was only itv with the world doubles and british open

Also, one thing to consider, don't know anything about golf, but tennis has a pretty stable calendar, while snooker's still in a transition period. Really it's better to wait until we have some stability in the calendar and which events stick around and which ones don't, before deciding what's bigger than bigger than what.

Might have a new event bigger than the CoC and IC pop in two years time for all we know.

Anyway, I should probably go cook dinner before I end up missing the start of the match.

I said this already a while back but I think it's worth repeating. We often hear discussions about majors and the triple crown with many people not really understanding the concept behind it. Like Skullman wrote in the comment above, the snooker calender is volatile and has changed a lot in the last 5, 10, 25 and 50 years. The triple crown is like an compass in all that mess. Since 1977, with Patsy Fagan winning the first ever UK title, the World Championship, the Masters and the UK have been a rock in every season since. It offers guidance and makes different eras comparable. They always have been the most important tournaments of a season and every player wants to win them. It's the most objective way of evaluating how a player is ranked in the hall of fame. And that's why there won't be a fourth tournament to join this club, as it would undermine its key purpose. The term "major" is more vague and can be interpreted differently but to me it has always been a synonym to the term "triple crown".

Yes very good post SO, I'll have to agree with you.

When comparing players careers the Triple Crown events are always the first that spring to mind.

My point all along was just that the IC, UK, Masters and Worlds are by far the 4 most important tournaments nowadays.

of course like Skull says, the IC could soon be scrapped and replaced by an even more important tournament in terms of prize money ranking, etc..

The IC or CoC being considered as majors these days? lol Who says these amusing fairy tales?

Anyway, a lot of hate for Robbo in here. Being the best player in the world can create that kind of bitterness, it's understandable. And Fu is definitely the toughest draw he could get without a shadow of a doubt...good match tonight!

Is Robertson the best player in the world ? thats debatable

I think this one has all the makings of being very close, possibly a decider.

I hope Fu beats him, but I feel he needs a good start to the match to stand a decent chance.

I'm tired.

Ronnie79 wrote:Is Robertson the best player in the world ? thats debatable

Not debatable at all. 2 big tournaments so far, won both, quite comfortably too. At the moment the lad sits at the top of the food chain, far from the second too. He looks focused, prepared and on a mission. Unlike the others, who all live by the day's momentum...

Ronnie79 wrote:Is Robertson the best player in the world ? thats debatable

Debatable, yes. But I'd probably say he is.

snucar wrote:

Ronnie79 wrote:Is Robertson the best player in the world ? thats debatable

Not debatable at all. 2 big tournaments so far, won both, quite comfortably too. At the moment the lad sits at the top of the food chain, far from the second too. He looks focused, prepared and on a mission. Unlike the others, who all live by the day's momentum...

Ronnie was also on a mission a year ago.

Same as Robbo, Ronnie had won CoC and UK. Did he win Masters? No, Robbo stopped him doing so. It's almost impossible to win big tournaments like this in sucession. I feel Fu or likely Trump will stop him.

Shitty NFL on Interactive.

If Robbo did win here, he might be the best player in the world. TBH there hasn't really been a best player in the world for a while (which I will define as from April 2014, almost two years ago now) as all the leading candidates have had long stretches of time out of form.

Andre147 wrote:

snucar wrote:

Ronnie79 wrote:Is Robertson the best player in the world ? thats debatable

Not debatable at all. 2 big tournaments so far, won both, quite comfortably too. At the moment the lad sits at the top of the food chain, far from the second too. He looks focused, prepared and on a mission. Unlike the others, who all live by the day's momentum...

Ronnie was also on a mission a year ago.

Same as Robbo, Ronnie had won CoC and UK. Did he win Masters? No, Robbo stopped him doing so. It's almost impossible to win big tournaments like this in sucession. I feel Fu or likely Trump will stop him.

I never said he has his name written on the trophy already.

I aint feeling great. Overdid the beer last night.

Robbo's walk on song

Videogame lover like me

Marco won the toss, let's Neil break.

Taylor is interested.

Hilarious racist in the crowd..

"Go on Liang!"

SnookerFan wrote:Marco won the toss, let's Neil break.

Taylor is interested.

It is unusual. Looking forward to this!

Great start by Robbo, he's got this.

Prop wrote:Hilarious racist in the crowd..

"Go on Liang!"

Did somebody shout that.

Really hate people that try and shake the players hands as they walk on

Hello all! Just now able to watch some snooker since Monday, will catch up on Ronnie's and Selbys respective matches on youtube, meantime, go Fu!

Alex0paul wrote:Really hate people that try and shake the players hands as they walk on

Not as bad as those idiots who try to get an autograph when a player is sat down between frames.

SnookerFan wrote:

Prop wrote:Hilarious racist in the crowd..

"Go on Liang!"

Did somebody shout that.

Yep. The bell end ratio always seems high at Ally Pally.