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Re: Dafabet Masters Round 1 : Stuart Bingham v Ding Junhui

Postby Andre147 » 10 Jan 2016 Read

eraserhead wrote:Can anyone think of a match that was the turning point for Ding? was it the 2014 welsh open final?


Definately not that match.

The turning point was losing to Michael Wasley at Worlds.

Since then he's been just truly awful.

Re: Dafabet Masters Round 1 : Stuart Bingham v Ding Junhui

Postby TheRocket » 10 Jan 2016 Read

Andre147 wrote:
eraserhead wrote:Can anyone think of a match that was the turning point for Ding? was it the 2014 welsh open final?


Definately not that match.

The turning point was losing to Michael Wasley at Worlds.

Since then he's been just truly awful.


I still believe that he could have won the Worlds that year, had he won that match. He was playing so well that season. And he wasn't playing badly against Wasley. Wasley just played out of his skin, playing like Trump at his best. And the fact that he played like a little amateur in his next match against Dale hurt Ding probably even more afterwards.

Re: Dafabet Masters Round 1 : Stuart Bingham v Ding Junhui

Postby PLtheRef » 10 Jan 2016 Read

Andre147 wrote:
eraserhead wrote:Can anyone think of a match that was the turning point for Ding? was it the 2014 welsh open final?


Definately not that match.

The turning point was losing to Michael Wasley at Worlds.

Since then he's been just truly awful.


I agree, after the Welsh he went on to win the China Open. In addition to that he had a comfortable lead twice against Wasley when he was 6-3 and 8-6 in front.

Whether it was a case of taking the match for granted against a Crucible debutant who was bound to be a little nervous or so but as you've said Ding hasn't hit the heights at all. - Outside a couple of APTC wins he has just two ranking semi-finals and one invitational semi-final since the 2014 World Championship -

Re: Dafabet Masters Round 1 : Stuart Bingham v Ding Junhui

Postby Pink Ball » 10 Jan 2016 Read

TheRocket wrote:
Andre147 wrote:
eraserhead wrote:Can anyone think of a match that was the turning point for Ding? was it the 2014 welsh open final?


Definately not that match.

The turning point was losing to Michael Wasley at Worlds.

Since then he's been just truly awful.


I still believe that he could have won the Worlds that year, had he won that match. He was playing so well that season. And he wasn't playing badly against Wasley. Wasley just played out of his skin, playing like Trump at his best. And the fact that he played like a little amateur in his next match against Dale hurt Ding probably even more afterwards.

Wasley played brilliantly, but the whole idea that Ding played well in that match is a fantasy. He was very nervy from ball one.

Re: Dafabet Masters Round 1 : Stuart Bingham v Ding Junhui

Postby Andre147 » 10 Jan 2016 Read

Yes pink Ball I agree, Ding didn't particularly play well against Wasley, but Michael nevertheless was in very good form that match.

Then went from Can't miss a ball to virtually miss everything against Dale.
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