Re: Luca Brecel get a MT Wildcard
IMO we have the perfect receipt for disaster.
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Monique wrote:I've watch him play quite a few times and I've seen how he reacts when things don't go his way. I have also witnessed how his entourage reacts and what king of hype/pressure is put on him. And he is not in least ready to face any kind of media interzaction which will nbe part of his duties on the MT if he is to succeed at any level.
IMO we have the perfect receipt for disaster.
Monique wrote:I think that he should indeed go to the Q-school and try himself at it. If he goes through, then it will prove that he has enough maturity to stand a good chance on the MT. Succeeding as a pro is not all about knowing the shots. There is much more than that.
I've been branded an "ageist" in the past because I think that 16 is too young to be a pro. Well I do stick but that. Some might be ready, but they are the exceptions. Most are not and failing at it might have a massive destructive psychological effect. I would put the entry age limit at 18. As examples ... Guys like Anthony McGill or Jack Lisowski managed to keep their spots because they had the skills AND the maturity required to handle pro life. Michael White was seen as a huge talent, failed to stay on the tour and has not been convincing on his return. I'm not sure that the failure he had to cope with, after the junior success and the hype that came with it did him any good.
The media ban is nothing about "petulance" or "mystery" ... it's about being borderline autistic.
Wild wrote:Monique wrote:I think that he should indeed go to the Q-school and try himself at it. If he goes through, then it will prove that he has enough maturity to stand a good chance on the MT. Succeeding as a pro is not all about knowing the shots. There is much more than that.
I've been branded an "ageist" in the past because I think that 16 is too young to be a pro. Well I do stick but that. Some might be ready, but they are the exceptions. Most are not and failing at it might have a massive destructive psychological effect. I would put the entry age limit at 18. As examples ... Guys like Anthony McGill or Jack Lisowski managed to keep their spots because they had the skills AND the maturity required to handle pro life. Michael White was seen as a huge talent, failed to stay on the tour and has not been convincing on his return. I'm not sure that the failure he had to cope with, after the junior success and the hype that came with it did him any good.
The media ban is nothing about "petulance" or "mystery" ... it's about being borderline autistic.
think when talking of kids they mature at different rate so saying 16 or 15 is not that simple i think ok make it 15 or make it 16 but look at those players individually study them see how mature they are and make judgement calls if they can handle it or not,,
i think we all agree the last thing we want to happen is to scare him shitless with the pressures he will be under in a foreign country that he sais sod it i want to go home.
Monique wrote:The problem Wild is that if you don't have the same rule for everyone then the people who have to make a decision will have to deal with pressures and biased views from the parents, coaches, entourage ... sometimes driven by misguided pride or ambitions and not necessarily in the interest of the youngster. Those people will not necessarily have first hand experience with the youngster, especially if they don't live in Britain.
Wild wrote:Monique wrote:The problem Wild is that if you don't have the same rule for everyone then the people who have to make a decision will have to deal with pressures and biased views from the parents, coaches, entourage ... sometimes driven by misguided pride or ambitions and not necessarily in the interest of the youngster. Those people will not necessarily have first hand experience with the youngster, especially if they don't live in Britain.
yes i do see that.
does Luca want to be pro player now ? or does his parents want him to be a pro ?
its so easy to push a talent in a direction he doesn't want to go at this minute. you see it all the time.
Monique wrote:Wild wrote:Monique wrote:The problem Wild is that if you don't have the same rule for everyone then the people who have to make a decision will have to deal with pressures and biased views from the parents, coaches, entourage ... sometimes driven by misguided pride or ambitions and not necessarily in the interest of the youngster. Those people will not necessarily have first hand experience with the youngster, especially if they don't live in Britain.
yes i do see that.
does Luca want to be pro player now ? or does his parents want him to be a pro ?
its so easy to push a talent in a direction he doesn't want to go at this minute. you see it all the time.
I'm not sure what Luca wants exactly, or rather if he knows exactly what's ahead of him in pro life, but I'm very sure that his father Carlo is pushing him very, very hard.
Witz78 wrote:Monique wrote:Wild wrote:Monique wrote:The problem Wild is that if you don't have the same rule for everyone then the people who have to make a decision will have to deal with pressures and biased views from the parents, coaches, entourage ... sometimes driven by misguided pride or ambitions and not necessarily in the interest of the youngster. Those people will not necessarily have first hand experience with the youngster, especially if they don't live in Britain.
yes i do see that.
does Luca want to be pro player now ? or does his parents want him to be a pro ?
its so easy to push a talent in a direction he doesn't want to go at this minute. you see it all the time.
I'm not sure what Luca wants exactly, or rather if he knows exactly what's ahead of him in pro life, but I'm very sure that his father Carlo is pushing him very, very hard.
it either works or it doesnt
Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton and Andy Murray the first ones that spring to mind when i think of sports stars who has pushy parents
SnookerFan wrote:I've not seen much of Luca Brecel. In fact the only match of his I've been able to see was the Power Snooker match, which means buck all.
Is he as good as people say he is, or is it bandwagon jumping by people who want a new young player from a different country to the UK?
SnookerFan wrote:I've not seen much of Luca Brecel. In fact the only match of his I've been able to see was the Power Snooker match, which means buck all.
Is he as good as people say he is, or is it bandwagon jumping by people who want a new young player from a different country to the UK?
Sonny wrote:And in 3 years time you could have him in your avatar
Witz78 wrote:
well if its bandwagon jumping, then i jumped on the bandwagon 3 or 4 years ago.
theres still some space left if you and Wild want to hop on
SnookerFan wrote:Witz78 wrote:
well if its bandwagon jumping, then i jumped on the bandwagon 3 or 4 years ago.
theres still some space left if you and Wild want to hop on
If he's good, he's good. I'll give him his props. I was just enquiring, because literally the one match I saw him play was against Ronnie at a Power Snooker event. I might as well have watched him play Scrabble against his mum, for all that tells me about his snooker prowess.
But, as he seems that highly rated I wondered if anybody had seen him play any real matches...
Witz78 wrote:2009
April - European Under 19 champion having just turned 14
May - World Series of Snooker - beat Jimmy White 4-3, beat Ken Doherty 5-3, narrowly lost 5-4 to Dott
August - Paul Hunter Classic - beat Joe Perry 4-1
2010
January - Beat Stephen Hendry 4-1 in exhibition match
March - Wins the European Snooker Championship
May - Beats Bjorn Haneveer 7-4 to win Belgian Snooker Championship
October - Makes the Quarter Finals of the inaugural Power Snooker Championship haha
this is just a brief glimpse of his pedigree.
having just turned 16 last month, he already has SEVENTEEN amateur titles under his belt and more success looks set to happen on the main tour as a pro
Wild wrote:Witz78 wrote:2009
April - European Under 19 champion having just turned 14
May - World Series of Snooker - beat Jimmy White 4-3, beat Ken Doherty 5-3, narrowly lost 5-4 to Dott
August - Paul Hunter Classic - beat Joe Perry 4-1
2010
January - Beat Stephen Hendry 4-1 in exhibition match
March - Wins the European Snooker Championship
May - Beats Bjorn Haneveer 7-4 to win Belgian Snooker Championship
October - Makes the Quarter Finals of the inaugural Power Snooker Championship haha
this is just a brief glimpse of his pedigree.
having just turned 16 last month, he already has SEVENTEEN amateur titles under his belt and more success looks set to happen on the main tour as a pro
surprised you mention world series of snooker
Witz78 wrote:http://luca.brecel.com/luca-video/116-luca-brecel-122-break3min52sec.html
Wild wrote:Witz78 wrote:http://luca.brecel.com/luca-video/116-luca-brecel-122-break3min52sec.html
yes dont think nobody denies his immense talent
im pleased hes on the tour if its the right thing for him and that what he wants.
id just like to see him qualify or trying to first.
Witz78 wrote:Wild wrote:Witz78 wrote:http://luca.brecel.com/luca-video/116-luca-brecel-122-break3min52sec.html
yes dont think nobody denies his immense talent
im pleased hes on the tour if its the right thing for him and that what he wants.
id just like to see him qualify or trying to first.
i think the fact hes twice qualified by right in the past to be on the tour only to be stopped by red tape, has made it more justifiable for Hearn to get him on tour now
Wild wrote:Witz78 wrote:Wild wrote:Witz78 wrote:http://luca.brecel.com/luca-video/116-luca-brecel-122-break3min52sec.html
yes dont think nobody denies his immense talent
im pleased hes on the tour if its the right thing for him and that what he wants.
id just like to see him qualify or trying to first.
i think the fact hes twice qualified by right in the past to be on the tour only to be stopped by red tape, has made it more justifiable for Hearn to get him on tour now
yes there was nobody else more justified and who knows his name still involved in Q School so he might still go for it
Alex0paul wrote:It will be interesting to see how he gets on against the established journeymen as he probably has never played against anything like that so far. He is clearly a good break builder but I wonder how good his safety game is.
Wild wrote:Alex0paul wrote:It will be interesting to see how he gets on against the established journeymen as he probably has never played against anything like that so far. He is clearly a good break builder but I wonder how good his safety game is.
i think its safe to say no new pro has come across Barry Pinches until they turn pro and then they learn about tactics.