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Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

robbo still top 8

is it right mate robbos 2010 worlds points wont drop off till after seedings are decided for 2012 worlds

yes or no

cheers

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

GJ wrote:robbo still top 8

is it right mate robbos 2010 worlds points wont drop off till after seedings are decided for 2012 worlds

yes or no

cheers

yes

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

good as he could be out of top 16 if your answer was no

10,000 is alot to lose

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Tubberlad

GJ wrote:good as he could be out of top 16 if your answer was no

10,000 is alot to lose

They should really consider adding 25% to the World and UK tariffs in my opinion

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

Tubberlad wrote:
GJ wrote:good as he could be out of top 16 if your answer was no

10,000 is alot to lose

They should really consider adding 25% to the World and UK tariffs in my opinion



the world open was worth to much 7000 points

far to many

if its 7000

uk should be 10000

worlds 13000

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

the most surprising thing for me was when doing that just how close to the top 16 Hendry still is .

i thought he would be mid 20s about 2000 points off the top 16.

but players has to start taking the PTC Seriously thats why Selby is top 12,320 points selby earned from the PTC Alone.

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

i want a few robbo v selby matches next season

no pl proper ranking event matches

they never player each other

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

GJ wrote:i want a few robbo v selby matches next season

no pl proper ranking event matches

they never player each other

have they never played in main tour matches ?

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

Wild wrote:
GJ wrote:i want a few robbo v selby matches next season

no pl proper ranking event matches

they never player each other

have they never played in main tour matches ?



1 welsh quallies match years ago

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Witz78

wild,

have you carried out that exercise yet then of deducting off everyones 2009/10 Shanghai and Grand Prix points off their current totals to see where they will start the season provisionally?

i was going to do it, but if youve done it i wont waste my time :john:

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

Witz78 wrote:wild,

have you carried out that exercise yet then of deducting off everyones 2009/10 Shanghai and Grand Prix points off their current totals to see where they will start the season provisionally?

i was going to do it, but if youve done it i wont waste my time :john:

no i gave up after i reached jimmy

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Witz78

Wild wrote:
Witz78 wrote:wild,

have you carried out that exercise yet then of deducting off everyones 2009/10 Shanghai and Grand Prix points off their current totals to see where they will start the season provisionally?

i was going to do it, but if youve done it i wont waste my time :john:

no i gave up after i reached jimmy


thats good enough for me, post your findings up in a new thread and ill complete it then <ok>

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Casey

Wild wrote:ive done a quick calc to see how the top 32 Provisionals will look at the Start of Next season with Shanghai/GP 2009 Points Deducted.

1 Selby 54005
2 Williams 53220
3 Higgins 49860
4 Ding 46860
5 Carter 43400
6 Maguire 41660
7 Murphy 41505
8 Robertson 40120
9 Trump 40050
10 Dott 38165
11 Allen 32825
12 Ebdon 32000
13 Stevens 31770
14 Lee 31655
15 O'Sullivan 31000
16 Gould 30710
17 Bingham 30655
18 Cope 30260
19 Hendry 30100
20 M C Davis 29360
21 Walden 27990
22 Hawkins 27660
23 Fu 27480
24 Higginson 26830
25 Campbell 26295
26 King 24590
27 Dale 24495
28 Perry 24270
29 McLeod 23745
30 Day 23705
31 Ford 23390
32 Greene 22510
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33 Doherty 21900
37 Wenbo 20390
39 S Davis 19475
40 Drago 19260
44 Mcmanus 18520
48 Lisowski 17955
52 Jimmy White 17030



Whats the odds on Ronnie dropping out of the 16 before the first cut off point (which is after the UK? Right)?

Old man Hendry might get a place back at the Masters one more time yet.

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Witz78

Casey wrote:
Wild wrote:ive done a quick calc to see how the top 32 Provisionals will look at the Start of Next season with Shanghai/GP 2009 Points Deducted.

1 Selby 54005
2 Williams 53220
3 Higgins 49860
4 Ding 46860
5 Carter 43400
6 Maguire 41660
7 Murphy 41505
8 Robertson 40120
9 Trump 40050
10 Dott 38165
11 Allen 32825
12 Ebdon 32000
13 Stevens 31770
14 Lee 31655
15 O'Sullivan 31000
16 Gould 30710
17 Bingham 30655
18 Cope 30260
19 Hendry 30100
20 M C Davis 29360
21 Walden 27990
22 Hawkins 27660
23 Fu 27480
24 Higginson 26830
25 Campbell 26295
26 King 24590
27 Dale 24495
28 Perry 24270
29 McLeod 23745
30 Day 23705
31 Ford 23390
32 Greene 22510
______________________
33 Doherty 21900
37 Wenbo 20390
39 S Davis 19475
40 Drago 19260
44 Mcmanus 18520
48 Lisowski 17955
52 Jimmy White 17030



Whats the odds on Ronnie dropping out of the 16 before the first cut off point (which is after the UK? Right)?

Old man Hendry might get a place back at the Masters one more time yet.



if it follows the same as this season then

CUT OFF 1 - after World Open
CUT OFF 2 - after UK
CUT OFF 3 - after Welsh Open
CUT OFF 4 - after World Champs

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

luckily for robbo his 2 big losses are well apart 1 at start 1 at end of seaosn so he shouldnt drop to far if he has a good seaosn

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

Bottom Line is win matches thats roughly the starting point and if players like Ronnie and Hendry dont want to qualify for the UK they have better win plenty of matches start of the season

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Bourne

GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo

:?
He will be next season anyway :D

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

Bourne wrote:
GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo

:?
He will be next season anyway :D



for 1 cut off point if he is very lucky

:hatoff:

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Witz78

GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo


Trump has far less points to lose than Robbo so barring a miracle, Robbo will fall behind Trump as the season progresses :clap:

the fact Trumps so close to Robbo now considering around Xmas Robbo was number 1 and Trump was mid 20s and probably 25,000 - 30,000 points off him is testimony to The Turbo Trumps Talent Totally Triumphing <laugh>

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

Witz78 wrote:
GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo


Trump has far less points to lose than Robbo so barring a miracle, Robbo will fall behind Trump as the season progresses :clap:

the fact Trumps so close to Robbo now considering around Xmas Robbo was number 1 and Trump was mid 20s and probably 25,000 - 30,000 points off him is testimony to The Turbo Trumps Talent Totally Triumphing <laugh>



well considering robbos only big points except for the 2010 worlds are already off in that calculation 2009 grand prix and he is still ahead of trump shows old trumpet wont be ahead of robbo for a while yet if ever :ahh:

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Bourne

GJ wrote:
Witz78 wrote:
GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo


Trump has far less points to lose than Robbo so barring a miracle, Robbo will fall behind Trump as the season progresses :clap:

the fact Trumps so close to Robbo now considering around Xmas Robbo was number 1 and Trump was mid 20s and probably 25,000 - 30,000 points off him is testimony to The Turbo Trumps Talent Totally Triumphing <laugh>



well considering robbos only big points except for the 2010 worlds are already off in that calculation 2009 grand prix and he is still ahead of trump shows old trumpet wont be ahead of robbo for a while yet if ever :ahh:

Except for the Worlds <laugh> Yeh that's just a side issue mate ;-)

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

Bourne wrote:
GJ wrote:
Witz78 wrote:
GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo


Trump has far less points to lose than Robbo so barring a miracle, Robbo will fall behind Trump as the season progresses :clap:

the fact Trumps so close to Robbo now considering around Xmas Robbo was number 1 and Trump was mid 20s and probably 25,000 - 30,000 points off him is testimony to The Turbo Trumps Talent Totally Triumphing <laugh>



well considering robbos only big points except for the 2010 worlds are already off in that calculation 2009 grand prix and he is still ahead of trump shows old trumpet wont be ahead of robbo for a while yet if ever :ahh:

Except for the Worlds <laugh> Yeh that's just a side issue mate ;-)



the 2010 worlds points are not taken off till after the 2012 worlds are over so once robbo wins that title trumpet wont see him for dust in rankings list


:ahh: :happy: <cool>

then following year trumpet has more to defend than robbo <laugh> :hatoff:

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby GJ

Bourne wrote:so once robbo wins that title

I stopped reading at this point :limp:



robbo hata :? :grrr:

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

Witz78 wrote:
GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo


Trump has far less points to lose than Robbo so barring a miracle, Robbo will fall behind Trump as the season progresses :clap:

the fact Trumps so close to Robbo now considering around Xmas Robbo was number 1 and Trump was mid 20s and probably 25,000 - 30,000 points off him is testimony to The Turbo Trumps Talent Totally Triumphing <laugh>

yes but theres enough tournaments to easily make up the difference

maybee trump will be above him at some point this season it goes without saying considering how little he has to defend but if trumpo starts badly or anyone starts badly other players can easily make up those points in PTC.

just look how many points Selby got from the PTC 12,320 Compared with Stephen Hendry 920 points it makes a massive difference and with only that return its amazing Hendry still 16 lol

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Witz78

Wild wrote:
Witz78 wrote:
GJ wrote:robbo just ahead of trump despite big points loss

i thought trump would be ahead after that points loss for robbo


Trump has far less points to lose than Robbo so barring a miracle, Robbo will fall behind Trump as the season progresses :clap:

the fact Trumps so close to Robbo now considering around Xmas Robbo was number 1 and Trump was mid 20s and probably 25,000 - 30,000 points off him is testimony to The Turbo Trumps Talent Totally Triumphing <laugh>

yes but theres enough tournaments to easily make up the difference

maybee trump will be above him at some point this season it goes without saying considering how little he has to defend but if trumpo starts badly or anyone starts badly other players can easily make up those points in PTC.

just look how many points Selby got from the PTC 12,320 Compared with Stephen Hendry 920 points it makes a massive difference and with only that return its amazing Hendry still 16 lol


it was being 8th or 9th on the one year list for 2009/10 thats really kept him in 16th place.

a repeat of his PTC disaster next season and he will be a goner

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Bourne

We'll only get a picture of the players' 'true' ranking after two years of PTC with all those points included, hence Hendo will be eating everyone's dust this time next year.

Re: Latest Provisional Rankings Discussion Topic

Postby Wildey

Bourne wrote:We'll only get a picture of the players' 'true' ranking after two years of PTC with all those points included, hence Hendo will be eating everyone's dust this time next year.

yes spot on

24 PTC ans 2 PTC Finals in the total thats when the PTC Comes to it own.

regarding hendry if he starts to play well by taking PTC Seriously just like Ebdon and Stevens has this term then no reason why he can win plenty to stay there.


   

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