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Snooker seeding 2021-22

Postby gninnur karona

Whilst the moneylist system has been retained for 2021-22, structural modifications to the event calendar, in particular the introduction of qualifying sessions for the Home Nations Series, is likely to result in greater anomalies in the ranking system. The post-World-Championship 2021 ranking list was used for the first two ranking tournaments, although there was no seeding for the second ranking tournament. The third ranking tournament uses the ranking list after the first ranking tournament to determine seeding. The ranking list after the second ranking tournament is used for the seeding of the fourth, sixth and ninth ranking tournaments drastically reducing the chances of Ronnie O'Sullivan meeting Jack Lisowski in a final this season. Once the third ranking tournament is completed a new ranking list will be compiled and used for determining the seedings of the eleventh ranking tournament. The fifth ranking tournament will seed entrants using the ranking list after the fourth ranking tournament. Upon completion of the fifth ranking tournament the updated ranking list will be used to select players for an invitational event played after the completion of the seventh ranking tournament. The seventh ranking tournament will feature Mark Williams and 31 other players according only to ranking points gained from the first six ranking tournaments of the season. The eighth ranking tournament will have a completely random draw although the ranking list after the seventh ranking tournament will help determine what numbers appear on players' polo shirts. The ranking list after the eighth ranking tournament will be used for the seeding of the twelfth ranking tournament. After the ninth ranking tournament a ranking list may be used for the thirteenth ranking tournament although this ranking tournament, which was previously set to be the third ranking tournament of the season, is the most susceptible to disappear from the calendar. In any case 16 players will be selected to play the tenth ranking tournament using a list with ranking points gained from the season's first nine ranking tournaments. Lists after the tenth and eleventh ranking tournaments will be informational only. After the twelfth ranking tournament a new ranking list will be used for the seedings of the fourteenth ranking tournament which may ultimately be the thirteenth ranking tournament but let's keep the numbers per the current WST calendar (V18.04) for the rest of this post. WST have shown some foresight in proposing to use the ranking list after the thirteenth ranking tournament for nothing at all. Ranking points gained from the first fourteen ranking tournaments of the season will serve to select eight elite players to play in the fifteenth ranking tournament of the season. After that fifteenth ranking tournament the new ranking list will be used for seeding the World Championship.

Seeding in tennis is somewhat simpler.

Re: Snooker seeding 2021-22

Postby lhpirnie

Yes and one of the main reasons why they advocate this stupid system is that it's easier for people to understand!

Basically, money lists are used to advertise the fact that the top players can earn lots of money (over £1M). It's not about providing a fair ranking system at all. Few people complain because the top players are favoured by it, and other players aren't important enough to be listened to.

Unfortunately there's nobody in WST who has the knowledge or intelligence to think of a proper system.

Re: Snooker seeding 2021-22

Postby GeF

I'm also in favour of a better ranking system, but the main raison of this bull is the qualification system.
Playing 3 qualifiers in a row with the main events played monthS later makes no sense.
I hate the fact that anyone must go to Barnsley in order to qualify for a tournament played in Asia or anywhere else. (especially when you live in Asia)

Re: Snooker seeding 2021-22

Postby lhpirnie

GeF wrote:I'm also in favour of a better ranking system, but the main raison of this bull is the qualification system.
Playing 3 qualifiers in a row with the main events played monthS later makes no sense.
I hate the fact that anyone must go to Barnsley in order to qualify for a tournament played in Asia or anywhere else. (especially when you live in Asia)

Well Gerard Greene had to go to Leicester to qualify for the Northern Ireland Open (he lost).


A better ranking system would mean that qualifiers were unnecessary, and tournaments of any size could be organised all over the world. Entry determined by ranking, plus some invitees.

These qualifiers are being played now (stretched out to 5-6 days) in order to fill the calendar due to the collapse of a couple of other events. It seems WST are keen to have snooker matches on as many days as possible during the season, nodoubt a marketing device.

Re: Snooker seeding 2021-22

Postby gninnur karona

WST have published an updated version (V21) of the 2021-22 calendar. The ranking list after the eighth ranking tournament will now be used for the seeding of the thirteenth ranking tournament which retains its place in the calendar. After the finals of the ninth ranking tournament, which will take place in Germany following assessment of the COVID situation in Germany, the ranking list will be used for the seeding of the twelfth ranking tournament. In addition 16 players will be selected to play the tenth ranking tournament using a list with ranking points gained from the season's first nine ranking tournaments. Lists after the tenth and eleventh ranking tournaments will be informational only. The finals of the eleventh ranking tournament will take place in Milton Keynes following assessment of the COVID situation in Germany. After the twelfth ranking tournament a new ranking list will be used for the seedings of the fourteenth ranking tournament. The ranking list after the thirteenth ranking tournament will be informational only. Ranking points gained from the first fourteen ranking tournaments will serve to select eight elite players to play in the fifteenth ranking tournament. After that fifteenth ranking tournament the new ranking list will be used for seeding the World Championship.


   

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