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Postby Dan-cat

I will upload that whole game with the kunckle shot, just been a bit busy. Then you can see the standard I was dealing with back then (i.e. not very good.)

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Postby Dan-cat

Just got slammed by a great player at Belgian billiards. What a tough game! Holden! help! What is it called?

It has two pockets, you each have 5 balls (red and white.) Obstacles in the middle that are like pinball thingies±!

Devilishly tough!

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Postby Holden Chinaski

Dan-cat wrote:Just got slammed by a great player at Belgian billiards. What a tough game! Holden! help! What is it called?

It has two pockets, you each have 5 balls (red and white.) Obstacles in the middle that are like pinball thingies±!

Devilishly tough!

Bumper pool! In Flemish it's 'tapbiljart'. Some of the oldtimers in Belgium are wizards at this game!

Re: Home Movies

Postby Holden Chinaski

Here are some pics of Elvis playing the game with his dad:

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Postby Dan-cat

Thanks man!! I love it!

So I was introduced to it by the Dutch girl that beat me. Her and her family played it all through lockdown.

So... I watched a couple of minutes on line of two old-timers playing it. I quickly saw the different plays... We went back to the pool place, and I beat her 5 nil. I was doing swerves etc, all my experience from pool and snooker. Loved it!

I don't think she is in a hurry to play again oops!

Re: Home Movies

Postby Juddernaut88

Dan do you have any snooker videos of you at all? I'd really love to see them.

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Postby Dan-cat

Juddernaut88 wrote:Dan do you have any snooker videos of you at all? I'd really love to see them.


I don't mate, I only filmed my pool games.

Re: Home Movies

Postby Dan-cat

Holden can you help with the basic rules of bumper pool?

She didn't know what happened if you pot your ball in the wrong pocket, or if you plant one of your balls onto another (apparently not allowed)

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Postby Dan-cat

I found the rules: https://www.billiardworld.com/bumppool.html

Key points...

4. Both players shoot marked ball at the same time, hitting first the side-cushion, banking the ball into or near his color cup. The player who plays his ball into or nearest his cup shoots again. Marked cue balls must be pocked first. If a player sinks another ball before his marked ball is pocketed, his opponent may remove two of his own balls and drop them into his cup. In the event that both marked balls are pocketed on first shots each player takes one of remaining balls and spots it in front of cup and both shoot at same time., just as they did with marked balls. From there on they take turns beginning with the player who pockets his ball or is nearest to his cup.

5. A player receives another shot upon sinking his own color ball in his own color cup.

6. In the event that a player causes a ball to leave the table, his opponent may place this ball anywhere he wishes, and in addition can remove two of his own balls and drop them into his cup as an additional bonus.

7. If a player sinks one of his opponent's balls there is no penalty, but if he sinks one of his own balls into his opponent's cup, or shoots one of his opponent's balls, his opponent may then drop two of his own balls into his cup.

We didn't play like that at all haha

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Postby acesinc

Bumper pool.....

I will tell you my experience with bumper pool. When I got home after living in England for three years, in, say, about 1988, I could not find a snooker table anywhere about. As a young man, 22 then, I was left with the prospect of barroom pool. I was frequently quite drunk as that was the usual wager of the time. Fortunately, I was never pounded into the pavement by an opponent whose ego was in his fists, not his billiard fingers, but I did come a bit too close to that a couple times. I learned fairly quickly to nearly lose often and to do so occasionally.

Anyway, when I would sit at the bar waiting for the next frame, invariably some barfly would stumble up and say something like, "You play a pretty good game." I would say something, "Yea, thanks. I really don't know a lot about pool. I played snooker pretty seriously for that last few years."

Far, far too many times to recall the answer to that would be, "Oh, yeah! I had an uncle who had one of those tables in his basement when I was a kid. That was fun. The little cues and its got those little bumpers!"

Um, no. It wasn't too long before I learned to say nothing about my snooker background. Fortunately, about three years later, I got married, bought my current table and met at least a handful of people who are interested in the game. Snooker, that is.

I have played the bumper pool several times. I literally did have an uncle that had a table in his basement. <laugh> Then, when older, there was a pub I would occasionally go to that had one. It is a charming game. Requires some skill to do it well, like anything else.

Re: Home Movies

Postby Holden Chinaski

Haven’t played it in years but those rules you posted seem correct, Dan.

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Postby Dan-cat

Interestingly those pool shots I uploaded for you guys last week have picked up some views. One of the 3 cushion blacks has 2.1k views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQRtozW ... nel=DanCat

I should actually do a pool channel. Would be fun to create. Got some keen people I'm coaching gently too, could involve them. The beautiful Dutchie for a start.

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Postby Dan-cat

Fire plant double (with an instant replay)

https://youtu.be/Sctdf_JcFTI



Notice I also pot (by accident) another of my balls during the shot. As usual when this happens, it didn't actually help and left me out of position.

(I'm looking for the full knuckle video, found this on the way.)

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Postby Dan-cat

I can't find the knuckle video. Most of the full games I do have on my google photos, but sometimes if my phone was running low on space I would clip the good shots out and then delete the full film.

Played more bumper pool (with the correct rules) with the Dutchie yesterday, I'm getting ridiculous at it! Checked out in one game with 4 balls in a run, She wasn't happy. <laugh>

I loved your story ace :-)

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Postby Dan-cat

Sweet checkout with doubles and kick shots. Inspired by this thread and the thousands of views I'm accidentally organically getting on Youtube, I've started to film my games again and start a Youtube Channel.

I give you... Dan Cat's Pool School.

In this checkout, I could do little positionally with the blue in my first shot. It was dead straight, so could really only go back and forwards with the white. I played a simple follow shot (top spin) to land on the tricky double (bank shot.) Sometimes I like to leave myself these kind of shots so I can practice them. I made the double, but snookered (hooked) myself on my last ball - the yellow over the pocket. I played the kick shot quite hard in order to try to land on the black - which I did - albeit leaving a tricky cutback to the top. I love these shots. Game over.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjb90oh ... PoolSchool

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Postby acesinc

Looks good, Dan. I haven't posted anything as my game has been uninspired of late. This vid of yours reminds me of a couple old clips with my friend, Marek, that I will dig out of the archives and post.

Meanwhile, a couple technical questions for you...

Is the White the same size and weight as the other balls? Or is it a mini-cue ball, like the Red/Yellow Black Ball game?

and...

I see the table has "diamonds" on the rails (I don't know if it is universal in the world, but American pool players always call them diamonds even though they are usually just little round spots). Do you use any system for calculating your angles? Or just gut feel like on an unadorned snooker table?

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Postby Dan-cat

RE the white - it's the same size as the coloured balls. Old School. Thick wool cloth that too - need to really dig into the cue ball!

I should get a light white - prob is those guys I play with at that game with are unlikely to want to change.

I watch Melling / Potts play English 8 ball with a light white it's ridiculous what they can do with that ball.

Everywhere else I play on American style tables - big heavy balls. I was wondering if there is a light-white version for that style of table. Need to investigate.

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Postby acesinc

Thanks for the compliments, guys. They won't guy to my head, I promise, as these strokes were over a decade ago! <laugh> Of course, the pots were sheer luck in both cases. What was most amazing to me as I mention above....both these shots occurred over a short span of time; not the same session, but within a week or two of each other...and circumstances were so similar. Obviously, we are in "snookers required" end game condition. I am more proud of both of our snookers laid on each other, seriously professional quality stuff. And instead of the just reward of penalty points and a chance to get the frame back, the incredulous snookerer just gets screwed with loss of frame. Sometimes, life just ain't fair!

Re: Home Movies

Postby acesinc

Dan-cat wrote:...

Every where else I play on American. style tables - big heavy balls. I was wondering if there is a light-white version for that style of table. Need to investigate.


It looks like you are in a home setting there. Or is it a very casual "pay to play" environment? I notice the cue ball return slot which usually indicates a public setting. The cushions and pocket cut appear English style. If it is a public table and you don't have access to the main ball gutter to retrieve your own cue ball, your options may be limited since differentiating the cue ball from the object ball often involves metal content and a magnet. No problem on a home table obviously.

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Postby Dan-cat

acesinc wrote:
Dan-cat wrote:...

Every where else I play on American. style tables - big heavy balls. I was wondering if there is a light-white version for that style of table. Need to investigate.


It looks like you are in a home setting there. Or is it a very casual "pay to play" environment? I notice the cue ball return slot which usually indicates a public setting. The cushions and pocket cut appear English style. If it is a public table and you don't have access to the main ball gutter to retrieve your own cue ball, your options may be limited since differentiating the cue ball from the object ball often involves metal content and a magnet. No problem on a home table obviously.


These clips are all from my mate Roy's place. He's 84, and I think the weekly pool sessions keep him young. We call him 3 Cushion Roy, as he is brilliant at multiple cushion blacks. He has an apartment under his villa that is dedicated to pool. It's an English 8 Ball table, no coin mechanism. Actually a really good table, and excellent lighting built into the ceiling.

That weekly Tuesday game has been running for 18 years, with a rolling cast of players. I've been playing there on and off for the last 3.

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Postby Dan-cat

The house rules there were established when they started and is a hybrid of Spanish (European) and English 8 ball.

For example. Following a foul, you can pick the white up and play anywhere behind the D line - shooting up and down, and you also have a free ball. Two shots don't carry, but you do get two shots on the black. So unlike the tougher Spanish baar rules I play elsewhere you can't profit from a foul.