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Re: Q School 2019

Postby Godot

The_Abbott wrote:Ursenbacher makes it which makes Bulman sick to the stomach. One frame is all he needed this morning and he'd have been on the tour in place of Peifan

That must have been torture for Ross Bulman... Lines kept getting in but couldn't sustain a break and even got potted the yellow, green and brown but couldn't complete the clearance.

Sport eh.
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Re: Q School 2019

Postby Wildey

So Bullman didnt quite make it through

Alexander Ursenbacker Age 23 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2013/2014

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Alex0paul

Hicksyyyyyyyyy

Re: Q School 2019

Postby The_Abbott

Only one match left Long Zehuang V Long Claw.

Barry is on a break to try and get it to 3-3

Re: Q School 2019

Postby lhpirnie

It must be very tense now. For Barry Pinches, it may be his last chance. For Long Zehuang, it may be his only chance.

For those that don't know Long Zehuang, he's a former 9-ball U19 World Champion, who has crossed over to snooker. I don't know how much pool he plays these days, but he was very successful. Originally from Shanghai.

He was, of course, only a late replacement for Mohammadali Pordel.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby vodkadiet1

The Computer, the television, and the radio have just been hurled out of the window. Now the mobile phone will join them.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Godot

Bulman might still get a chance if the African champion pulls out?

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Wildey

Godot wrote:Bulman might still get a chance if the African champion pulls out?

no if players pulls out the top up system is used he wont get a tour card

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Wildey

2019 Q School Graduates

Lei Peifan Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Si Jiahui Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Riley Parsons Age 19 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Xu Si Age 21 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Louis Heathcote Age 21 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Chen Zifan Age 23 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Alexander Ursenbacker Age 23 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2013/2014
Billy Joe Castle Age 26 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Soheil Vahedi Age 30 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Jamie O'Neill Age 32 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
Frazer Patrick Age 33 6th and 7th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
David Lilley Age 43 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Andy Hicks Age 45 23rd and 24th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Barry Pinches Age 48 27th and 28th season on tour Turned Pro 1989/1990
Peter Lines Age 49 25th and 26th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Alex Borg Age 49 15th and 16th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

I think thats a fairly good spread. There were always going to be a few older journeymen qualify but at least there are quite a few youngsters and quite a few journeymen that didn't

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

To avoid collusion or the appearance of it, where a player already qualified via the OOM plays someone who can only qualify via winning the final match....would it be better to incentivise players to go for a win by saying the winners of the last match get a number of ranking points to start the season with whilst those qualifying via the OOM don't?

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

The likes of Kleckers will now face an anxious wait to see whether they will be called up for the World Cup now that he's not a pro. Would be interesting if there was a fixture clash between the world cup and a challenge tour event......choice between your country and your own career.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Wildey

SteveJJ wrote:To avoid collusion or the appearance of it, where a player already qualified via the OOM plays someone who can only qualify via winning the final match....would it be better to incentivise players to go for a win by saying the winners of the last match get a number of ranking points to start the season with whilst those qualifying via the OOM don't?

There are so many other ways to get on tour take James Cahill he reached the Crucible last 16 but he starts on Zero points so rewarding q school players with ranking points wouldnt be fair would it.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Lemnas

Wildey wrote:2019 Q School Graduates

Lei Peifan Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Si Jiahui Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Riley Parsons Age 19 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Xu Si Age 21 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Louis Heathcote Age 21 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Chen Zifan Age 23 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Alexander Ursenbacker Age 23 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2013/2014
Billy Joe Castle Age 26 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Soheil Vahedi Age 30 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Jamie O'Neill Age 32 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
Frazer Patrick Age 33 6th and 7th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
David Lilley Age 43 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Andy Hicks Age 45 23rd and 24th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Barry Pinches Age 48 27th and 28th season on tour Turned Pro 1989/1990
Peter Lines Age 49 25th and 26th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Alex Borg Age 49 15th and 16th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992


-Chinese teenager who came out of nowhere
-Chinese teenager who came out of nowhere and seems to have a lot of potential
-English teenager with an unspectacular record as amateur
-Young chinese pro
-Young english player that was tipped as one to watch years ago
-Chinese pro
-Young swiss pro; Only swiss player
-English pro
-Iranian pro; One of two Iranians
-English ex-pro who has been on the tour a number of times without making any impact
-Scottish ex-pro who has been on the tour a number of times without making any impact
-Old english player who has played in tons of Pro/Am and ranking tournaments but has never been a pro
-Old english ex-pro who had one big result, achieved nothing else, quit the game and is now coming back
-Textbook definition of a journeyman, also old and english
-Textbook definition of a journeyman, also old, english and his son is a pro as well
-Maltese dinosaur who has been on the tour a number of times without making an impact (still can't believe he qualified after winning 0 frames in the first two events rofl )


If I were in charge of promoting and marketing snooker, I would be a bit disappointed, especially considering who has lost his tour card.
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Re: Q School 2019

Postby Wildey

Yea but you have to put a criteria in and you cant say x cant enter..


Obviously some are not good enough and this year thoes 16 were the best available players its not good that old players are qualifying and if truth be told its not good that 40 somethings is at the top of the sport but that is where were at im affraid.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Lemnas

SteveJJ wrote:To avoid collusion or the appearance of it, where a player already qualified via the OOM plays someone who can only qualify via winning the final match....would it be better to incentivise players to go for a win by saying the winners of the last match get a number of ranking points to start the season with whilst those qualifying via the OOM don't?


The best way would be to use OOM or direct qualification exclusively. The only reason both are used this year is because there were too many open spots and a fourth event would have been too expensive.

Wildey wrote:Yea but you have to put a criteria in and you cant say x cant enter..


Obviously some are not good enough and this year thoes 16 were the best available players its not good that old players are qualifying and if truth be told its not good that 40 somethings is at the top of the sport but that is where were at im affraid.

My problem is not their age. It is the lack of international(not from China or the UK) players!

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Wildey

SteveJJ wrote:The likes of Kleckers will now face an anxious wait to see whether they will be called up for the World Cup now that he's not a pro. Would be interesting if there was a fixture clash between the world cup and a challenge tour event......choice between your country and your own career.

no dates on Challange tour been issued and i think Kleckers is nailed on for the German team its not as if they got a big pool to chose from

Re: Q School 2019

Postby aimlesswandeer

vodkadiet1 wrote:If Pinches gets back on the tour I am going to throw my computer, television, radio, and mobile phone out of the window.


Bazza and his unique brand of snooker is back for another two years...

Re: Q School 2019

Postby aimlesswandeer

Lemnas wrote:
SteveJJ wrote:To avoid collusion or the appearance of it, where a player already qualified via the OOM plays someone who can only qualify via winning the final match....would it be better to incentivise players to go for a win by saying the winners of the last match get a number of ranking points to start the season with whilst those qualifying via the OOM don't?


The best way would be to use OOM or direct qualification exclusively. The only reason both are used this year is because there were too many open spots and a fourth event would have been too expensive.

Wildey wrote:Yea but you have to put a criteria in and you cant say x cant enter..


Obviously some are not good enough and this year thoes 16 were the best available players its not good that old players are qualifying and if truth be told its not good that 40 somethings is at the top of the sport but that is where were at im affraid.

My problem is not their age. It is the lack of international(not from China or the UK) players!


They could maybe do an international q school as well as a Chinese one and two UK ones to get a better spread, and ditch the order of merit places.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby The_Abbott

vodkadiet1 wrote:The Computer, the television, and the radio have just been hurled out of the window. Now the mobile phone will join them.


Did you film it for us? <laugh>

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Tamctus

SteveJJ wrote:The likes of Kleckers will now face an anxious wait to see whether they will be called up for the World Cup now that he's not a pro. Would be interesting if there was a fixture clash between the world cup and a challenge tour event......choice between your country and your own career.

Germany is too big market for Barry not to get a German team in the World Cup. I'm just worried that Finland may not get a team in since Robin and Heikki failed to qualify :-(

Re: Q School 2019

Postby aimlesswandeer

Tamctus wrote:
SteveJJ wrote:The likes of Kleckers will now face an anxious wait to see whether they will be called up for the World Cup now that he's not a pro. Would be interesting if there was a fixture clash between the world cup and a challenge tour event......choice between your country and your own career.

Germany is too big market for Barry not to get a German team in the World Cup. I'm just worried that Finland may not get a team in since Robin and Heikki failed to qualify :-(


There are 24 teams so if you take away the two Chinese teams and one each for the home nations there will still be seventeen countries. There aren’t that many nationalities on tour so being on tour won’t be a pre-requisite. I’d be very surprised if Finland didn't have a team. Though Robin sounds like he may jack it in.

With Lichtenberg still on tour Germany are bound to be there, Maflin will probably play with his wife again, and Sharav and Ruberg will no doubt team up, but is there anyone that Georgiou can play with?

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

Tamctus wrote:
SteveJJ wrote:The likes of Kleckers will now face an anxious wait to see whether they will be called up for the World Cup now that he's not a pro. Would be interesting if there was a fixture clash between the world cup and a challenge tour event......choice between your country and your own career.

Germany is too big market for Barry not to get a German team in the World Cup. I'm just worried that Finland may not get a team in since Robin and Heikki failed to qualify :-(


Germany will have a team as they still have Lichtenberg as a pro. Despite not making it Kleckers was the best of the other Germans at QSchool.

Yes I suspect they had pencilled in Finland.

They said they were awaiting Q School to finish before announcing the teams so it will have had some bearing.

Also be interesting who China pick for their second team as Yan should be in the top team based on rankings. They didnt go on rankings for the b team last time and went for the youngsters.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

Lemnas wrote:
Wildey wrote:2019 Q School Graduates

Lei Peifan Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Si Jiahui Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Riley Parsons Age 19 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Xu Si Age 21 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Louis Heathcote Age 21 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Chen Zifan Age 23 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Alexander Ursenbacker Age 23 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2013/2014
Billy Joe Castle Age 26 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Soheil Vahedi Age 30 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Jamie O'Neill Age 32 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
Frazer Patrick Age 33 6th and 7th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
David Lilley Age 43 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Andy Hicks Age 45 23rd and 24th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Barry Pinches Age 48 27th and 28th season on tour Turned Pro 1989/1990
Peter Lines Age 49 25th and 26th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Alex Borg Age 49 15th and 16th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992


-Chinese teenager who came out of nowhere
-Chinese teenager who came out of nowhere and seems to have a lot of potential
-English teenager with an unspectacular record as amateur
-Young chinese pro
-Young english player that was tipped as one to watch years ago
-Chinese pro
-Young swiss pro; Only swiss player
-English pro
-Iranian pro; One of two Iranians
-English ex-pro who has been on the tour a number of times without making any impact
-Scottish ex-pro who has been on the tour a number of times without making any impact
-Old english player who has played in tons of Pro/Am and ranking tournaments but has never been a pro
-Old english ex-pro who had one big result, achieved nothing else, quit the game and is now coming back
-Textbook definition of a journeyman, also old and english
-Textbook definition of a journeyman, also old, english and his son is a pro as well
-Maltese dinosaur who has been on the tour a number of times without making an impact (still can't believe he qualified after winning 0 frames in the first two events rofl )


If I were in charge of promoting and marketing snooker, I would be a bit disappointed, especially considering who has lost his tour card.


Bit harsh on Hicks...two world semi finals. Fell off the tour due to Hendrys decision to not resign his place after retiring.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

Wildey wrote:
SteveJJ wrote:To avoid collusion or the appearance of it, where a player already qualified via the OOM plays someone who can only qualify via winning the final match....would it be better to incentivise players to go for a win by saying the winners of the last match get a number of ranking points to start the season with whilst those qualifying via the OOM don't?

There are so many other ways to get on tour take James Cahill he reached the Crucible last 16 but he starts on Zero points so rewarding q school players with ranking points wouldnt be fair would it.


Nope, it would help on one issue but extend an unfairness elsewhere. But then theres probably no completely fair answer

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

Do we have a record...is this the longest thread with the fewest posts from Snookerfan?

Re: Q School 2019

Postby Godot

Lemnas wrote:
Wildey wrote:2019 Q School Graduates

Lei Peifan Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Si Jiahui Age 16 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Riley Parsons Age 19 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Xu Si Age 21 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Louis Heathcote Age 21 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Chen Zifan Age 23 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Alexander Ursenbacker Age 23 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2013/2014
Billy Joe Castle Age 26 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Soheil Vahedi Age 30 3rd and 4th season on tour Turned Pro 2017/2018
Jamie O'Neill Age 32 5th and 6th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
Frazer Patrick Age 33 6th and 7th season on tour Turned Pro 2007/2008
David Lilley Age 43 1st and 2nd season on tour Turned Pro 2019/2020
Andy Hicks Age 45 23rd and 24th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Barry Pinches Age 48 27th and 28th season on tour Turned Pro 1989/1990
Peter Lines Age 49 25th and 26th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992
Alex Borg Age 49 15th and 16th season on tour Turned Pro 1991/1992


-Chinese teenager who came out of nowhere
-Chinese teenager who came out of nowhere and seems to have a lot of potential
-English teenager with an unspectacular record as amateur
-Young chinese pro
-Young english player that was tipped as one to watch years ago
-Chinese pro
-Young swiss pro; Only swiss player
-English pro
-Iranian pro; One of two Iranians
-English ex-pro who has been on the tour a number of times without making any impact
-Scottish ex-pro who has been on the tour a number of times without making any impact
-Old english player who has played in tons of Pro/Am and ranking tournaments but has never been a pro
-Old english ex-pro who had one big result, achieved nothing else, quit the game and is now coming back
-Textbook definition of a journeyman, also old and english
-Textbook definition of a journeyman, also old, english and his son is a pro as well
-Maltese dinosaur who has been on the tour a number of times without making an impact (still can't believe he qualified after winning 0 frames in the first two events rofl )


If I were in charge of promoting and marketing snooker, I would be a bit disappointed, especially considering who has lost his tour card.


Regarding diversity, never fear, there's Asian Q School next year. Great money making scheme by Hearn tbf, wouldn't be surprised if there's 10 times the amount of applicants than there is for British Q School for about 6 tour cards. Bazza laughing all the way to the bank.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby HappyCamper

There are twenty nationalities confirmed for next years tour. Plus one African TBD at some point.

Most notable absentees would be Finland, India, & Pakistan.

Re: Q School 2019

Postby SteveJJ

HappyCamper wrote:There are twenty nationalities confirmed for next years tour. Plus one African TBD at some point.

Most notable absentees would be Finland, India, & Pakistan.


I remember when Canada would be considered a notable absentee.


   

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