Q School 3 !!!

mick745 wrote:

Iranu wrote:

lhpirnie wrote:I disagree with the view that young players are all lazy - I think that's totally unfair. It's just too easy an explanation. It's not as if players from previous generations were as dedicated as they now like to claim. The problem is systemic and demographic.

I totally agree. Every generation thinks the next is “lazy” or “lacks work ethic.” For every GenXer bemoaning Millennials, there was a Boomer bemoaning that GenXer. Not just in sport either. Look at how older people have a go at Millennials for living at home, ignoring how house prices have skyrocketed compared to wages.

It’s quite despicable, actually. You’d think they’d remember having to deal with the same rubbish when they were younger.

The time is ripe for someone to come along and take the game by the scruff on the neck and give it a good shake out of its stupor, in the same way Davis and Hendry did.

The opportunity is there for a period of dominance.

I dont see anyone younger than Trump with enough talent though. Jury's still out for Bingtao for me.

cupotee wrote:

mick745 wrote:

Iranu wrote:

lhpirnie wrote:I disagree with the view that young players are all lazy - I think that's totally unfair. It's just too easy an explanation. It's not as if players from previous generations were as dedicated as they now like to claim. The problem is systemic and demographic.

I totally agree. Every generation thinks the next is “lazy” or “lacks work ethic.” For every GenXer bemoaning Millennials, there was a Boomer bemoaning that GenXer. Not just in sport either. Look at how older people have a go at Millennials for living at home, ignoring how house prices have skyrocketed compared to wages.

It’s quite despicable, actually. You’d think they’d remember having to deal with the same rubbish when they were younger.

The time is ripe for someone to come along and take the game by the scruff on the neck and give it a good shake out of its stupor, in the same way Davis and Hendry did.

The opportunity is there for a period of dominance.

I dont see anyone younger than Trump with enough talent though. Jury's still out for Bingtao for me.

judd trump practises at the exclusive grove academy in romford , not trying to sound gratuitous but without it or a respectably similar facility he'd be nothing , likewise with lisowski , there's only a huge gap between juniors and top pro's because the top pro's have much better practise facilities , i wanted to play on stuart bingham's star table in rayleigh essex but i wasn't allowed to , bingham also has the table he beat murphy in 2015 at home as well , its much more about familiarity of good tables than talent or dedication or work ethic etc.

mick745 wrote:

cupotee wrote:

mick745 wrote:

Iranu wrote:

lhpirnie wrote:I disagree with the view that young players are all lazy - I think that's totally unfair. It's just too easy an explanation. It's not as if players from previous generations were as dedicated as they now like to claim. The problem is systemic and demographic.

I totally agree. Every generation thinks the next is “lazy” or “lacks work ethic.” For every GenXer bemoaning Millennials, there was a Boomer bemoaning that GenXer. Not just in sport either. Look at how older people have a go at Millennials for living at home, ignoring how house prices have skyrocketed compared to wages.

It’s quite despicable, actually. You’d think they’d remember having to deal with the same rubbish when they were younger.

The time is ripe for someone to come along and take the game by the scruff on the neck and give it a good shake out of its stupor, in the same way Davis and Hendry did.

The opportunity is there for a period of dominance.

I dont see anyone younger than Trump with enough talent though. Jury's still out for Bingtao for me.

judd trump practises at the exclusive grove academy in romford , not trying to sound gratuitous but without it or a respectably similar facility he'd be nothing , likewise with lisowski , there's only a huge gap between juniors and top pro's because the top pro's have much better practise facilities , i wanted to play on stuart bingham's star table in rayleigh essex but i wasn't allowed to , bingham also has the table he beat murphy in 2015 at home as well , its much more about familiarity of good tables than talent or dedication or work ethic etc.

Presumably when the were kids they learnt their trade on club tables though?

Juddernaut88 wrote:

hendry_fan wrote:COME ONNNNN "The Ladies Man from Bolton"!.


I just googled good old Tony,Jeez!,did,nt think he was 65!.

Is he the same age as you then?

SteveJJ wrote:The O'Sullivan fans in ecstatic mood as Sean is the first winner of the day.

Tony Knowles takes a 2-0 lead

The_Abbott wrote:There is still a work ethic thing as well. You can't just splash the cash at an Academy and hope for the best - look at Tennis.

Whilst I would love more young talent coming through they are not competing hard enough with grit to beat the likes of Lines and Pinches. They have too much professionalism to lose and will work twice as hard to beat their opponent to get a pay cheque. Some youngsters expect to turn up and beat an old fart and get given money for nothing or check their phones every 5 seconds for the latest tweets from some influencer on instagram.

hendry_fan wrote:

The_Abbott wrote:There is still a work ethic thing as well. You can't just splash the cash at an Academy and hope for the best - look at Tennis.

Whilst I would love more young talent coming through they are not competing hard enough with grit to beat the likes of Lines and Pinches. They have too much professionalism to lose and will work twice as hard to beat their opponent to get a pay cheque. Some youngsters expect to turn up and beat an old fart and get given money for nothing or check their phones every 5 seconds for the latest tweets from some influencer on instagram.

I,m sure most of the young guns often play good,even brilliant in practice,but when it comes to the crunch,when the heats really on,they collapse,bottle n crumble.

And,aye,it,d certainly help,if they were to get there fingers off there bloody phones,tablets,laptops and of course outta there noses n bottoms.

chengdufan wrote:It must be different in England.
Overuse of phones here is limited to the over 60s generation. They're constantly on TikTok, playing videos at full volume in public places.
The younger generations tend to have a more varied set of activities in their free time.

chengdufan wrote:Do the players have to wear standard dress for Q School? Waistcoats etc? Or can they show up in casual?

chengdufan wrote:The three Ukrainians in action at the moment. There's a Chicken Kiev pun in there somewhere.
Where's Running Side when you need him?

The_Abbott wrote:

hendry_fan wrote:

The_Abbott wrote:There is still a work ethic thing as well. You can't just splash the cash at an Academy and hope for the best - look at Tennis.

Whilst I would love more young talent coming through they are not competing hard enough with grit to beat the likes of Lines and Pinches. They have too much professionalism to lose and will work twice as hard to beat their opponent to get a pay cheque. Some youngsters expect to turn up and beat an old fart and get given money for nothing or check their phones every 5 seconds for the latest tweets from some influencer on instagram.

I,m sure most of the young guns often play good,even brilliant in practice,but when it comes to the crunch,when the heats really on,they collapse,bottle n crumble.

And,aye,it,d certainly help,if they were to get there fingers off there bloody phones,tablets,laptops and of course outta there noses n bottoms.

The other day someone in the office (under 25) was moaning they got soaked coming in because the weather on the app said it was sunny. I just said "didn't you just look up at the sky? rather than down on your phone?!

aimlesswandeer wrote:Rosa vs Finbow with a combined age of 103...

SteveJJ wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:Rosa vs Finbow with a combined age of 103...

Even in that one the older man won!

aimlesswandeer wrote:

SteveJJ wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:Rosa vs Finbow with a combined age of 103...

Even in that one the older man won!

He plays a mere pup, Jamie Brown, 41, in the next round.

chengdufan wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:

SteveJJ wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:Rosa vs Finbow with a combined age of 103...

Even in that one the older man won!

He plays a mere pup, Jamie Brown, 41, in the next round.

WST website has it as James Brown from Birmingham, which I think is correct.
I think snooker.org erroneously has Jamie Brown from Australia in the draw.

chengdufan wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:

SteveJJ wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:Rosa vs Finbow with a combined age of 103...

Even in that one the older man won!

He plays a mere pup, Jamie Brown, 41, in the next round.

WST website has it as James Brown from Birmingham, which I think is correct.

Iranu wrote:

chengdufan wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:

SteveJJ wrote:

aimlesswandeer wrote:Rosa vs Finbow with a combined age of 103...

Even in that one the older man won!

He plays a mere pup, Jamie Brown, 41, in the next round.

WST website has it as James Brown from Birmingham, which I think is correct.

He’ll be hoping to stay on the scene.