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Which of these following records will Ronnie break before he retires?

first player to make 1000 centuries
16
10%
first player to make 15 maximum breaks
18
12%
tie or overtake Steve Davis's 6 UK titles
16
10%
tie or overtake Steve Davis's 28 ranking titles
18
12%
tie or overtake Stephen Hendry's 6 Masters titles
19
12%
tie Steve Davis's 6 World titles
14
9%
tie Stephen Hendry's 7 World titles
6
4%
overtake Stephen Hendry's 7 World titles
2
1%
tie or overtake Stephen Hendry's 18 majors
15
10%
tie or overtake Stephen Hendry's 36 ranking titles
13
8%
Oldest ranking event winner in snooker history
9
6%
Oldest World Champion in snooker history
7
5%
 
Total votes : 153

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Cloud Strife

Erza Scarlet wrote:Is Crucible the only record Hendry owns now? Everything else stripped away?


Yeah, apart from the age-related ones.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Badsnookerplayer

Andre147 wrote:
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:He can't be oldest World Champ until 2022 and oldest ranking event winner until the start of 2026.


Couldn't be less bothered about that.

70s and 80s were a diferent era altogether, and old men in their 40s and even 50s like Rex Williams could reach ranking event Finals.

Strikingly similar to now in a way Andre - players in their 40s reaching ranking finals I mean.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Andre147

Cloud Strife wrote:
Andre147 wrote:I'd like to think he could break Davi's record of 28 rankers, but unfortunately and due to him not participating in all tournaments don't think he will.



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I know, and I feel embarassed by it.

Glad he proved me wrong on that occasion.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Snooker Overdrive

Iranu wrote:Snooker Overdrive thought it was more likely that Ronnie would get 7 world titles than Masters?

:chin:


I know it seems ridiculous now but at the time it made sense. With winning back to back World titles in 2012 and 2013 I thought nothing was going to stop him over the longer distances.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby mick745

He will probably fall agonisingly short of at least one record, I suspect he won't get to 7 world titles.

The debate about who is the GOAT needs to continue not left in no doubt.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby SnookerFan

mick745 wrote:He will probably fall agonisingly short of at least one record, I suspect he won't get to 7 world titles.

The debate about who is the GOAT needs to continue not left in no doubt.


I think Ronnie has got at least one more World Title in him. I think he wins it this year.

If he does, it's not outside the realms of possibility he gets to seven.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Andre147

SnookerFan wrote:
mick745 wrote:He will probably fall agonisingly short of at least one record, I suspect he won't get to 7 world titles.

The debate about who is the GOAT needs to continue not left in no doubt.


I think Ronnie has got at least one more World Title in him. I think he wins it this year.

If he does, it's not outside the realms of possibility he gets to seven.


Would need to get to 6 this year or the most the next.

Once he's past 45, I dont think theres a realistic chance of another one.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Dan-cat

edwards2000 wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:
Casey wrote:I think he will make more 147's and more ton's but none of the rest on the list.


He can certainly tie Davis' World titles tally, and Hendry's 18 majors record is not beyond reach either.

Fact is, Ronnie can break all of these records. It's all about his desire. If he wants to, he can still be a front-line contender for the next 20 years.


im sorry but if Ronnie is a front line contender for the next 20 years then the Next Generation of players will be rubbish to the extream




Stephen Hendry's 775 centuries
Definitely. And by averages already.

Stephen Hendry's 11 maximum breaks
Definitely. And by averages already.
In fact, he is already on 12, but it is not included for dodgy reasons.
He will probably exceed Hendry's Major total of 4 (which he shares).
He has a decent chance of exceeding Hendry's WC of 3 (which he shares).

Steve Davis's 28 ranking titles
Good chance

Stephen Hendry's 6 Masters titles
Good chance of equalling.

tie Steve Davis's 6 World titles
Good chance

tie Stephen Hendry's 7 World titles
25% imho

Stephen Hendry's 7 World titles

No. I don't think so. But you never know.

Stephen Hendry's 18 majors
Decent chance.

Stephen Hendry's 36 ranking titles
No chance.

Oldest World Champion in snooker history
I'm gonna say no.


Oops.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Juddernaut88

Cloud Strife wrote:
Juddernaut88 wrote:Think we should look at doing a poll for which records of Ronnies will Judd Trump break.


None


He will break centuries and ranking titles I think. Total Triple crown events very unlikely and world championship would be very tricky too.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Acé

Patience has been the order of the day for Ronnie O'Sullivan's career

a lot of these records were never ever in sight before 2012 esp when he was on a serious drought for 2-2 and a half years after 2009 but he's been chipping them away since then.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby TheRocket

Acé wrote:What are the ages for these?

Oldest ranking event winner in snooker history
Oldest World Champion in snooker history


World Championship: 45 years, 203 days
Ranking event: 50 years, 14 days

Ray Reardon holds both records.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Johnny Bravo

TheRocket wrote:
Acé wrote:What are the ages for these?

Oldest ranking event winner in snooker history
Oldest World Champion in snooker history


World Championship: 45 years, 203 days
Ranking event: 50 years, 14 days

Ray Reardon holds both records.

Ronnie will beat both :win:

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Reg Varney

Juddernaut88 wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:
Juddernaut88 wrote:Think we should look at doing a poll for which records of Ronnies will Judd Trump break.


None


He will break centuries and ranking titles I think. Total Triple crown events very unlikely and world championship would be very tricky too.


Yeah, by the time he's finished Judd will have put the century record out of reach of everyone. He should take the ranking record too, especially if he continues to mop up these tinpot events, helped predominantly by the sheer number of rankers there are these days as compared to how many there were during Hendry's and the first half of O'Sullivan's career.

Not a chance he'll pass O'Sullivans number of Triple Crowns or Hendry's Worlds.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Prop

Reg Varney wrote:
Juddernaut88 wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:
Juddernaut88 wrote:Think we should look at doing a poll for which records of Ronnies will Judd Trump break.


None


He will break centuries and ranking titles I think. Total Triple crown events very unlikely and world championship would be very tricky too.


Yeah, by the time he's finished Judd will have put the century record out of reach of everyone. He should take the ranking record too, especially if he continues to mop up these tinpot events, helped predominantly by the sheer number of rankers there are these days as compared to how many there were during Hendry's and the first half of O'Sullivan's career.

Not a chance he'll pass O'Sullivans number of Triple Crowns or Hendry's Worlds.


Ranking title strike rate would be interesting to see. Tournaments entered over tournament wins.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Reg Varney

Prop wrote:Ranking title strike rate would be interesting to see. Tournaments entered over tournament wins.


Not counting withdrawals, and this may easily be inaccurate, but I've got:

Judd Trump - 22 wins out of 164 tournaments entered (13.41% strike rate)

Ronnie O'Sullivan - 37 wins out of 220 tournaments entered (16.82% strike rate)

I'll possibly look at Hendry later.

*EDIT* Just looking at Hendry's record, my gut is his strike rate will be higher than O'Sullivan's.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Prop

Reg Varney wrote:
Prop wrote:Ranking title strike rate would be interesting to see. Tournaments entered over tournament wins.


Not counting withdrawals, and this may easily be inaccurate, but I've got:

Judd Trump - 22 wins out of 164 tournaments entered (13.41% strike rate)

Ronnie O'Sullivan - 37 wins out of 220 tournaments entered (16.82% strike rate)

I'll possibly look at Hendry later.

*EDIT* Just looking at Hendry's record, my gut is his strike rate will be higher than O'Sullivan's.


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Yes I’d imagine Hendry will have at least the same strike rate, or better.

Who is between Trump and O’Sullivan?

Obviously longevity and, on the back of that, sheer numbers of tournament wins are factors that’d also contribute to a ‘greatness’ debate (which I know this isn’t). But strike rate should be a good indicator of the kind of records Trump might break if he continues winning at this pace.

As for that, Anthony Hamilton (in interview on the Talking Snooker podcast) seems pretty sure that Trump’s form must soon drop off. I wonder what his strike rate has been since that NI Open win in 2018.

Re: Which records will Ronnie beat?

Postby Reg Varney

A few more:

Stephen Hendry - 36 wins from 219 tournaments entered (16.44% strike rate)

Hendry pre and post 2000 would be interesting to look at, as if you eliminate everything post-2000 his strike rate will sky rocket.

John Higgins - 31 wins from 267 tournaments entered (11.61% strike rate)

Mark Selby - 19 wins from 210 tournaments entered (9.05% strike rate)

Selby would be interesting to look at from the point he won his first ranker onwards, as he went eight seasons as a pro without winning anything.

I'm not going to work it out, but Steve Davis from when he turned pro to when he won his final ranker in 94/95 will have a seriously high strike rate. His overall numbers would be skewed badly by playing for another twenty seasons after that.