Arcaden Paul Hunter Classic (European Tour 2) Discussion !!!

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Mark Selby 3-1 Liang Wenbo
Ricky Walden 1-2 Fergal O'Brien
Judd Trump 4-2 Stephen Maguire
Tian Pengfei 3-2 Ronnie O'Sullivan
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Neil Robertson 2-1 Dechawat Poomjaeng
Rod Lawler 2-0 Fraser Patrick
Alan McManus 3-1 Xiao Guodong
Robert Milkins 1-4 Mark Allen

Wildey wrote:The Rule states you have to be able to hit the ball on both sides so basicly hit the Blue and the blue at least goes near the brown.

Yes he can hit it full ball but only so that the blue goes straight on and that means Selby and murphy was right.

Rule changed either last season or this season so that you only have to hit it full ball now.

Can Ronnie save the Paul Hunter Classic from being reverted in to a Tin Pot event?

Wildey wrote:The Rule states you have to be able to hit the ball on both sides so basicly hit the Blue and the blue at least goes near the brown.

Yes he can hit it full ball but only so that the blue goes straight on and that means Selby and murphy was right.

No theu weren't right, the both sides situation only happens when a free ball occurs, in this case it does not matter if Murphy can hit either side of the blue as long as he can hit full ball contact on it, and he clearly could as checked by the ref, so the ref had to indeed warn him he had a shot at an easier blue, but of course he wasn't going for it for safety purposes.

The ref as other posters have noted was 100% right, and had Murphy lost the frame from that then so be it. The ref, despite being a bit inexperienced, showed great ref skills there.

Skullman wrote:

Wildey wrote:The Rule states you have to be able to hit the ball on both sides so basicly hit the Blue and the blue at least goes near the brown.

Yes he can hit it full ball but only so that the blue goes straight on and that means Selby and murphy was right.

Rule changed either last season or this season so that you only have to hit it full ball now.

well that's the problem then the players was playing to the rule they being brought up on for 20 years and the ref plays to a 1 year rule.

ref was right but rule changers

Tian beats ROS 4-2. He'll have his work cut out if Judd replicates this morning's form.

PHC is now officially a tin pot event

Frame 2 of Lawler v Patrick is complete. Swift stuff.

Skullman wrote:Tian beats ROS 4-2. He'll have his work cut out if Judd replicates this morning's form.

Ronnie

Well... I could see this coming somehow... anyway...

Of course it's not a tin pot event, far from it, in fact the Best PTC in my opinion, along with the Belgium one.

Ronnie still had some match practice, managed to beat Hawkins along the way so not all bad.

Whoa, what happened in Selby v Liang? One minute Selby's 53 behind, next, it's 4-1.

Last 16
Mark Selby 4-1 Liang Wenbo
Ricky Walden 2-2 Fergal O'Brien
Judd Trump 4-2 Stephen Maguire
Tian Pengfei 4-2 Ronnie O'Sullivan
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Neil Robertson 2-1 Dechawat Poomjaeng
Rod Lawler 2-0 Fraser Patrick
Alan McManus 3-1 Xiao Guodong
Robert Milkins 1-4 Mark Allen

Good potential semi line up in prospect.

Selby v Judd, Robbo v Allen.

Skullman wrote:Whoa, what happened in Selby v Liang? One minute Selby's 53 behind, next, it's 4-1.

its called classy mate

or 3 miss and your out http://ls.worldsnookerdata.com/FrameDet ... 9&m=362226

Skullman wrote:Whoa, what happened in Selby v Liang? One minute Selby's 53 behind, next, it's 4-1.

WTF.... frame scores in frame 5 are:

F4 F4 F4 45 in Liang's favour...

Then Selby benefited from a F4 point penalty and thats it... he won the frame 4-57

Did Lians concede when in front or something? Was he feeling ill? Very strange...

Wildey wrote:or 3 miss and your out http://ls.worldsnookerdata.com/FrameDet ... 9&m=362226

Did not happen as Selby only has a F4 point penalty... very strange situation

That's why I was wondering. Selby couldn't have cleared in that time and I didn't see three misses.

Andre147 wrote:

Skullman wrote:Tian beats ROS 4-2. He'll have his work cut out if Judd replicates this morning's form.

Ronnie

Well... I could see this coming somehow... anyway...

Of course it's not a tin pot event, far from it, in fact the Best PTC in my opinion, along with the Belgium one.

Ronnie still had some match practice, managed to beat Hawkins along the way so not all bad.

He always beats Hawkins to be honest..

Judd´s been once again doing a fantastic job, I see.

Robbo 2 all v Poom... can see an upset there as Robbo hasn't been at his best in this tourney..

Tian owns Rigsby.

Tian is the Chinese Peter Lines.

Andre147 wrote:Robbo 2 all v Poom... can see an upset there as Robbo hasn't been at his best in this tourney..

Neil more often than not finds a way ....he was far off his best in Wuxi too.

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Mark Selby 4-1 Liang Wenbo
Ricky Walden 3-2 Fergal O'Brien
Judd Trump 4-2 Stephen Maguire
Tian Pengfei 4-2 Ronnie O'Sullivan
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Neil Robertson 2-2 Dechawat Poomjaeng
Rod Lawler 3-0 Fraser Patrick
Alan McManus 4-2 Xiao Guodong
Robert Milkins 1-4 Mark Allen

McManus is a revelation this past few seasons

at the start of 2012/2013 he was down to 52nd in the rankings his lowest ever point christ after his first season in 1990/1991 he made it to 41. now he is up to 25th.

Wildey wrote:McManus is a revelation this past few seasons

at the start of 2012/2013 he was down to 52nd in the rankings his lowest ever point christ after his first season in 1990/1991 he made it to 41. now he is up to 25th.

Would be something if he did manage to get into the Top 16...

Wildey wrote:The Rule states you have to be able to hit the ball on both sides so basicly hit the Blue and the blue at least goes near the brown.

Yes he can hit it full ball but only so that the blue goes straight on and that means Selby and murphy was right.

The rule is (or at least definitely was) full ball, not both sides, unless they've changed it very recently. But the argument was about full ball, and you could quite clearly see you could hit full ball.

Robbo 3-2 down v Poom after the latter cleared up in the last frame... Robbo will have to do what Ronnie couldn't to win this match.

Andy Spark wrote:

Wildey wrote:The Rule states you have to be able to hit the ball on both sides so basicly hit the Blue and the blue at least goes near the brown.

Yes he can hit it full ball but only so that the blue goes straight on and that means Selby and murphy was right.

The rule is (or at least definitely was) full ball, not both sides, unless they've changed it very recently. But the argument was about full ball, and you could quite clearly see you could hit full ball.

That hasn't been changed, always been full ball, the only instance it's both sides is when a foul is committed and the player doesnt ask (or can't ask) for the ball to be replaced because he has a free ball situation when he can't hit both extreme edges of the ball on.

This situation is different because Selby simply asked to be replaced, and Murphy could see the blue full on.

Andre147 wrote:

Wildey wrote:McManus is a revelation this past few seasons

at the start of 2012/2013 he was down to 52nd in the rankings his lowest ever point christ after his first season in 1990/1991 he made it to 41. now he is up to 25th.

Would be something if he did manage to get into the Top 16...

Last time he played in the Masters was 2006 some achievement if he got back there 9 years later.

Last 16
Mark Selby 4-1 Liang Wenbo
Ricky Walden 4-2 Fergal O'Brien
Judd Trump 4-2 Stephen Maguire
Tian Pengfei 4-2 Ronnie O'Sullivan
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Neil Robertson 2-3 Dechawat Poomjaeng
Rod Lawler 3-0 Fraser Patrick
Alan McManus 4-2 Xiao Guodong
Robert Milkins 1-4 Mark Allen

Selby v Walden next TV match in half an hour.