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Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

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Wednesday 14th~Saturday 17th of August at the Doncaster Dome

Event 3 of the European Tour will be at the Doncaster Dome a venue that has a history with snooker dating back to the 1991 World Matchplay a tournament won by Gary Wilkinson beating Steve Davis 18-11 in the Final.

over the years its staged many of the Premier League Fixtures as well as Exhibitions but now its the turn of the European Tour to hit Doncaster.

Ronnie O'Sullivan has entered this event as well as most of the Professional Tour. 122 Main tour players meaning there's only room for 6 "Amateurs" in the Main Draw so there will be 5 Amateur Rounds.

Who will Join John Higgins and Mark Williams as European Tour winner this season?

Last 128 Matches includes
Mark Williams v Craig Steadman
Robert Milkins v Tian Pengfei
Pankaj Advani v Peter Ebdon
Barry Hawkins v Rory McLeod
Patrick Einsle v Steve Davis
Graeme Dott v Marco Fu
Judd Trump v Ding Junhui
Luca Brecel v Ryan Clark
Mark Selby v Vinnie Calabrese
Neil Robertson v Liang Wenbo
Stephen Maguire v Allan Taylor
Jamie Cope v Xiao Guodong
Ronnie O’Sullivan v Lu Haotian
Jack Lisowski v James Wattana
Martin Gould v Robin Hull
Barry Pinches v Allister Carter
Joe Perry v Mark Allen
Rod Lawler v James Cahill
Nigel Bond v Aditya Mehta


DRAW

ORDER OF PLAY

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Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby fridge46

IF any main tour player withdraws from this competition, I really hope their place will be taken by a QR5 "lucky" loser, instead of awarding their opponent a bye to round 2.

With the new system of 133 (or what ever number it is) main tour players, amateurs have been really screwed over in my opinion, and this event shows it, having 109 fight for only 6 place in the last 128 stage.

So I propose that the 6 QR5 losers be ranked according to the results of QR2, QR3, QR4 & QR5 (frames for - frames against; I dont think just using frames for would work, because that would mean whoever won the most frames in QR5 would top the list) [I have ignored QR1, because not all players play at this stage, and maybe ignore QR2 if there are w/o given].

If more than 6 main tour players withdraw... apply the same to the 12 QR4 losers and so on....

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Roland

Good idea but yeah, wishful thinking really. It would help them to get through the rounds if they brought it a round back if say 12 places rather than 6 became available, that way you could promote the 12 who reached the final round without using a player who had already lost which is where the "lucky loser" idea fails. You can't let someone who has already lost in the competition have another try.

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby fridge46

Sonny wrote:Good idea but yeah, wishful thinking really. It would help them to get through the rounds if they brought it a round back if say 12 places rather than 6 became available, that way you could promote the 12 who reached the final round without using a player who had already lost which is where the "lucky loser" idea fails. You can't let someone who has already lost in the competition have another try.


Tennis use the "lucky loser" concept for all their tournaments... actually they use it quite a lot...

Its even been used in the FA Cup in 1999/2000, where Manchester United withdrew and Darlington I believe, who lost in R2, had another go in R3.

Idk what the situation is in other sports which are straight knockout.

Just realised something... arent these "top-up" players in the majors "lucky losers". I mean, they played in what is essentially qualifying competitions... didnt make the grade, but are filling in for players who dont want to play for whatever reason

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Wednesday will contain the Largest amount of snooker ever played in 1 day with 103 matches taking place to select 6 players to play in the Last 128.

Wednesday 14th of August

9am

Rhys Clark v Josh Boileau
Ryan Causton v Wayne Townsend
Michael Wild v Jimmy Carney
Michael Georgiou v Wen Chen
Kishan Hirani v Jamie Brown
Shokat Ali v Aaron Busuttil
Brandon Sargeant v Ross Higgins
Arun Mehta v Adam Bobat
Stephen Groves v Sam Harvey
Douglas Hogan v Sean Hopkin
Matthew Glasby v Zafran Ali
Terry Challenger v Sydney Wilson
Sanderson Lam v Alex Taubman
Mark Owens v Charon Parker

Approx 10.30am

Andrew Milliard v Henry Roper
Marc J Davis v Hans Blanckaert
Joe Steele v Hannah Jones
Dean Sheridan v Charlie Walters
Ashley Carty v Daniel Ward
Kurtis Weaver v Mark Vincent
Steven Hallworth v Jeff Cundy
Eric Pei v Mitchell Travis
Brian Cini v Sigurdur Kristjansson
Shaun Wilkes v Billy Brown
Zak Surety v Phil Barnes
Robert Marshall v Oliver Brown
Martin Ball v Jamie McArdle
Andy Marriott v Ian Glover

Approx 12.30pm

Luke Garland v Rhys Clark/Josh Boileau
Peter Devlin v Ryan Causton/Wayne Townsend
Christopher Keogan v Michael Wild/Jimmy Carney
George Marter v Michael Georgiou/Wen Chen
Adam Edge v Kishan Hirani/Jamie Brown
Ben Harrison v Jurian Heusdens
Joseph McLaren v James Silverwood
Ben Jones v Joe O'Connor
Mitchell Mann v Barry Campbell
Leo Fernandez v Joseph Casha
Nico Elton v Jack Bradford
Jamie Rhys Clarke v Gareth Allen
Lee Brookes v Michael Tomlinson
Bash Maqsood v David Singh

Approx 2pm

Christopher Giffney v Thomas Davie
John Sutton v Shokat Ali/Aaron Busuttil
Lewis Frampton v Luke Stilwell
Darren Cook v Richard Haney
Adam Longley v Brandon Sargeant/Ross Higgins
Ryan Thomerson v Arun Mehta/Adam Bobat
Thomas Wealthy v Matthew Day
Joe Roberts v Stephen Groves/Sam Harvey
Jamie Bodle v Saqib Nasir
Michele Battaglia v Dylan Craig
Tommy Doherty v Reanne Evans
Jamie Barrett v Damian Wilks
Oliver Lines v Douglas Hogan/Sean Hopkin
Andrew Rogers v Zack Richardson

Approx 3.30pm

Shane Castle v Imran Nisar
John Patrick Tyndall v Michael Williams
Ashley Hugill v Matthew Glasby/Zafran Ali
Eden Sharav v Terry Challenger/Sydney Wilson
William Lemons v Sanderson Lam/Alex Taubman
Luke Garland/Rhys Clark/Josh Boileau v Mark Owens/Charon Parker
Andrew Milliard/Henry Roper v Marc J Davis/Hans Blanckaert
Joe Steele/Hannah Jones v Dean Sheridan/Charlie Walters
Ashley Carty/Daniel Ward v Peter Devlin/Ryan Causton/Wayne Townsend
Kurtis Weaver/Mark Vincent v Steven Hallworth/Jeff Cundy
Eric Pei/Mitchell Travis v Brian Cini/Sigurdur Kristjansson
Shaun Wilkes/Billy Brown v Christopher Keogan/Michael Wild/Jimmy Carney
George Marter/Michael Georgiou/Wen Chen v Zak Surety/Phil Barnes
Robert Marshall/Oliver Brown v Adam Edge/Kishan Hirani/Jamie Brown

Approx 5.30pm

Martin Ball/Jamie McArdle v Andy Marriott/Ian Glover
Ben Harrison/Jurian Heusdens v Joseph McLaren/James Silverwood
Ben Jones/Joe O'Connor v Mitchell Mann/Barry Campbell
Leo Fernandez/Joseph Casha v Nico Elton/Jack Bradford
Jamie Rhys Clarke/Gareth Allen v Lee Brookes/Michael Tomlinson
Bash Maqsood/David Singh v Christopher Giffney/Thomas Davie
John Sutton/Shokat Ali/Aaron Busuttil v Lewis Frampton/Luke Stilwell
Darren Cook/Richard Haney v Adam Longley/Brandon Sargeant/Ross Higgins
Ryan Thomerson/Arun Mehta/Adam Bobat v Thomas Wealthy/Matthew Day
Joe Roberts/Stephen Groves/Sam Harvey v Jamie Bodle/Saqib Nasir
Michele Battaglia/Dylan Craig v Tommy Doherty/Reanne Evans
Jamie Barrett/Damian Wilks v Oliver Lines/Douglas Hogan/Sean Hopkin
Andrew Rogers/Zack Richardson v Shane Castle/Imran Nisar
John Patrick Tyndall/Michael Williams v Ashley Hugill/Matthew Glasby/Zafran Ali
Eden Sharav/Terry Challenger/Sydney Wilson v William Lemons/Sanderson Lam/Alex Taubman

Approx 7pm

Luke Garland/Rhys Clark/Josh Boileau/Mark Owens/Charon Parker v Andrew Milliard/Henry Roper/Marc J Davis/Hans Blanckaert

Joe Steele/Hannah Jones/Dean Sheridan/Charlie Walters v Ashley Carty/Daniel Ward/Peter Devlin/Ryan Causton/Wayne Townsend

Kurtis Weaver/Mark Vincent/Steven Hallworth/Jeff Cundy v Eric Pei/Mitchell Travis/Brian Cini/Sigurdur Kristjansson

Shaun Wilkes/Billy Brown/Christopher Keogan/Michael Wild/Jimmy Carney v George Marter/Michael Georgiou/Wen Chen/Zak Surety/Phil Barnes

Robert Marshall/Oliver Brown/Adam Edge/Kishan Hirani/Jamie Brown v Martin Ball/Jamie McArdle/Andy Marriott/Ian Glover

Ben Harrison/Jurian Heusdens/Joseph McLaren/James Silverwood v Ben Jones/Joe O'Connor/Mitchell Mann/Barry Campbell

Leo Fernandez/Joseph Casha/Nico Elton/Jack Bradford v Jamie Rhys Clarke/Gareth Allen/Lee Brookes/Michael Tomlinson

Bash Maqsood/David Singh/Christopher Giffney/Thomas Davie v John Sutton/Shokat Ali/Aaron Busuttil/Lewis Frampton/Luke Stilwell

Darren Cook/Richard Haney/Adam Longley/Brandon Sargeant/Ross Higgins v Ryan Thomerson/Arun Mehta/Adam Bobat/Thomas Wealthy/Matthew Day

Joe Roberts/Stephen Groves/Sam Harvey/Jamie Bodle/Saqib Nasir v Michele Battaglia/Dylan Craig/Tommy Doherty/Reanne Evans

Jamie Barrett/Damian Wilks/Oliver Lines/Douglas Hogan/Sean Hopkin v Andrew Rogers/Zack Richardson/Shane Castle/Imran Nisar

John Patrick Tyndall/Michael Williams/Ashley Hugill/Matthew Glasby/Zafran Ali v Eden Sharav/Terry Challenger/Sydney Wilson/William Lemons/Sanderson Lam/Alex Taubman

Approx 9pm

6 Final Qualifying Matches

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Confirmed Streamed Matches for Last 128

Thursday 15th of August

9am

Mark Williams v Craig Steadman
Patrick Einsle v Steve Davis

Approx 11am

Graeme Dott v Marco Fu
Mark Davis v Alex Borg

Approx 12.30pm

Judd Trump v Ding Junhui
Luca Brecel v Ryan Clark

Approx 2pm

Mark Selby v Vinnie Calabrese
Jamie O’Neill v Dechawat Poomjaeng

Friday 16th of August

9am

Neil Robertson v Liang Wenbo
Shaun Murphy v Jak Jones

Approx 11am

Jack Lisowski v James Wattana
Martin O’Donnell v Jimmy White

Approx 12.30pm

Ronnie O’Sullivan v Lyu Haotian
Joe Perry v Mark Allen

Approx 2pm

Nigel Bond v Aditya Mehta
John Higgins v Jamie Burnett

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby roy142857

Sonny wrote:Good idea but yeah, wishful thinking really. It would help them to get through the rounds if they brought it a round back if say 12 places rather than 6 became available, that way you could promote the 12 who reached the final round without using a player who had already lost which is where the "lucky loser" idea fails. You can't let someone who has already lost in the competition have another try.


Prefer it not to be a 'lucky loser', but if they know they've got 1 or more withdrawals by the time the final qualifying matches are due, I'd hope they'd draw lots to see which matches don't need to be played and fill the spaces that way.

Actually, there are competitions in the amateur ranks set up so every player gets a second try (for instance, RIBSA normally run a Double Knockout competition as part of the Irish Senior Tour).

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

TheRocket wrote:https://twitter.com/ronnieo147

Seems that Ronnie O'Sullivan can't wait to play again and has fun at practice. Nice to read.

Promotion from his management and sponsors we dont know if Ronnie even knows whats written on his twitter account anymore.

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Andre147 PGC wrote:Judd and Ding facing off in the Last 128... that's the random draw doing it's thing there I suppose... should be a cracker from the off.

that's the by product of Ding not entering the 1st 2 European Tour events and being outside the top 64 on the order if merit after Rotterdam

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

hendry_fan wrote:Wow!,Ronald Antonio O`Sullivan is takin part in this tourney!,ah well,the summer must be comin to an end in Great Britain. ;-) <laugh>

no he is under contract to actually play somethings with Oval Vodka.

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby hendry_fan

Wildey wrote:
hendry_fan wrote:Wow!,Ronald Antonio O`Sullivan is takin part in this tourney!,ah well,the summer must be comin to an end in Great Britain. ;-) <laugh>

no he is under contract to actually play somethings with Oval Vodka.




Charming!. :-D

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Roland

sigsky wrote:Am I the only one who is tired of watching Luca Brecel? Surely we could find a better match than Brecel v. Clark.


How can you be tired of watching Luca? Ryan Clark is a very good prospect as well in the mould of Selby so for me it's an inspired choice for a streamed match.

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Roland

I was hoping to get down there this morning to watch all the amateur rounds but unfortunately I was very careless and didn't realise my MOT had expired so I have to get it tested today, won't be ready until 5pm so I won't get down there until tea time.

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Wednesday 14th of August

9am

Rhys Clark 4-1 Josh Boileau
Ryan Causton 4-0 Wayne Townsend
Michael Wild 3-4 Jimmy Carney
Michael Georgiou w/o Wen Chen
Kishan Hirani 4-3 Jamie Brown
Shokat Ali 2-4 Aaron Busuttil
Brandon Sargeant 4-2 Ross Higgins
Arun Mehta 1-4 Adam Bobat
Stephen Groves 0-4 Sam Harvey
Douglas Hogan 4-3 Sean Hopkin
Matthew Glasby 4-3 Zafran Ali
Terry Challenger 0-4 Sydney Wilson
Sanderson Lam 3-4 Alex Taubman
Mark Owens w/o Charon Parker

Approx 10.30am

Andrew Milliard v Henry Roper
Marc J Davis v Hans Blanckaert
Joe Steele v Hannah Jones
Dean Sheridan v Charlie Walters
Ashley Carty v Daniel Ward
Kurtis Weaver v Mark Vincent
Steven Hallworth v Jeff Cundy
Eric Pei v Mitchell Travis
Brian Cini v Sigurdur Kristjansson
Shaun Wilkes v Billy Brown
Zak Surety v Phil Barnes
Robert Marshall v Oliver Brown
Martin Ball v Jamie McArdle
Andy Marriott v Ian Glover

Approx 12.30pm

Luke Garland v Rhys Clark
Peter Devlin v Ryan Causton
Christopher Keogan v Jimmy Carney
George Marter v Michael Georgiou
Adam Edge v Kishan Hirani
Ben Harrison v Jurian Heusdens
Joseph McLaren scr James Silverwood w/o
Ben Jones v Joe O'Connor
Mitchell Mann v Barry Campbell
Leo Fernandez v Joseph Casha
Nico Elton v Jack Bradford
Jamie Rhys Clarke v Gareth Allen
Lee Brookes v Michael Tomlinson
Bash Maqsood v David Singh

Approx 2pm

Christopher Giffney v Thomas Davie
John Sutton v Aaron Busuttil
Lewis Frampton v Luke Stilwell
Darren Cook v Richard Haney
Adam Longley v Brandon Sargeant
Ryan Thomerson v Adam Bobat
Thomas Wealthy v Matthew Day
Joe Roberts v Sam Harvey
Jamie Bodle v Saqib Nasir
Michele Battaglia v Dylan Craig
Tommy Doherty v Reanne Evans
Jamie Barrett scr Damian Wilks w/o
Oliver Lines v Douglas Hogan
Andrew Rogers v Zack Richardson

Approx 3.30pm

Shane Castle v Imran Nisar
John Patrick Tyndall v Michael Williams
Ashley Hugill v Matthew Glasby
Eden Sharav v Sydney Wilson
William Lemons v Alex Taubman
Luke Garland/Rhys Clark v Mark Owens
Andrew Milliard/Henry Roper v Marc J Davis/Hans Blanckaert
Joe Steele/Hannah Jones v Dean Sheridan/Charlie Walters
Ashley Carty/Daniel Ward v Peter Devlin/Ryan Causton
Kurtis Weaver/Mark Vincent v Steven Hallworth/Jeff Cundy
Eric Pei/Mitchell Travis v Brian Cini/Sigurdur Kristjansson
Shaun Wilkes/Billy Brown v Christopher Keogan/ Jimmy Carney
George Marter/Michael Georgiou v Zak Surety/Phil Barnes
Robert Marshall/Oliver Brown v Adam Edge/Kishan Hirani

Approx 5.30pm

Martin Ball/Jamie McArdle v Andy Marriott/Ian Glover
Ben Harrison/Jurian Heusdens v James Silverwood
Ben Jones/Joe O'Connor v Mitchell Mann/Barry Campbell
Leo Fernandez/Joseph Casha v Nico Elton/Jack Bradford
Jamie Rhys Clarke/Gareth Allen v Lee Brookes/Michael Tomlinson
Bash Maqsood/David Singh v Christopher Giffney/Thomas Davie
John Sutton/Aaron Busuttil v Lewis Frampton/Luke Stilwell
Darren Cook/Richard Haney v Adam Longley/Brandon Sargeant
Ryan Thomerson/Adam Bobat v Thomas Wealthy/Matthew Day
Joe Roberts/Sam Harvey v Jamie Bodle/Saqib Nasir
Michele Battaglia/Dylan Craig v Tommy Doherty/Reanne Evans
Damian Wilks v Oliver Lines/Douglas Hogan
Andrew Rogers/Zack Richardson v Shane Castle/Imran Nisar
John Patrick Tyndall/Michael Williams v Ashley Hugill/Matthew Glasby
Eden Sharav/Sydney Wilson v William Lemons/Alex Taubman

Approx 7pm

Luke Garland/Rhys Clark/Mark Owens v Andrew Milliard/Henry Roper/Marc J Davis/Hans Blanckaert

Joe Steele/Hannah Jones/Dean Sheridan/Charlie Walters v Ashley Carty/Daniel Ward/Peter Devlin/Ryan Causton

Kurtis Weaver/Mark Vincent/Steven Hallworth/Jeff Cundy v Eric Pei/Mitchell Travis/Brian Cini/Sigurdur Kristjansson

Shaun Wilkes/Billy Brown/Christopher Keogan/Jimmy Carney v George Marter/Michael Georgiou/Zak Surety/Phil Barnes

Robert Marshall/Oliver Brown/Adam Edge/Kishan Hirani v Martin Ball/Jamie McArdle/Andy Marriott/Ian Glover

Ben Harrison/Jurian Heusdens/James Silverwood v Ben Jones/Joe O'Connor/Mitchell Mann/Barry Campbell

Leo Fernandez/Joseph Casha/Nico Elton/Jack Bradford v Jamie Rhys Clarke/Gareth Allen/Lee Brookes/Michael Tomlinson

Bash Maqsood/David Singh/Christopher Giffney/Thomas Davie v John Sutton/Aaron Busuttil/Lewis Frampton/Luke Stilwell

Darren Cook/Richard Haney/Adam Longley/Brandon Sargeant v Ryan Thomerson/Adam Bobat/Thomas Wealthy/Matthew Day

Joe Roberts/Sam Harvey/Jamie Bodle/Saqib Nasir v Michele Battaglia/Dylan Craig/Tommy Doherty/Reanne Evans

Damian Wilks/Oliver Lines/Douglas Hogan v Andrew Rogers/Zack Richardson/Shane Castle/Imran Nisar

John Patrick Tyndall/Michael Williams/Ashley Hugill/Matthew Glasby v Eden Sharav/Sydney Wilson/William Lemons/Alex Taubman

Approx 9pm

6 Final Qualifying Matches

Re: Bluebell Wood Open (European Tour 3) Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Marc J Davis 4-1 Hans Blanckaert
Joe Steele 4-1 Hannah Jones
Ashley Carty 0-4 Daniel Ward
Kurtis Weaver 4-1
Mark Vincent
Shaun Wilkes 4-0 Billy Brown
Zak Surety 4-2 Phil Barnes