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BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

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Wednesday 19th of February ~ Sunday 2nd of March at the Newport Center, Newport

Last 16 and the World no 1 Neil Robertson is out at the hands on twice World Champion Mark Williams in his home tournament, BUT defending Champion Stephen Maguire, Judd Trump, John Higgins and World Champion Ronnie O'Sullivan is still in.

Who will Reach the Quarter Finals in Newport?

Last 16 Draw

Stephen Maguire v Joel Walker Never played before
Scott Donaldson v Ding Junhui Ding Junhui leads 1-0
Stuart Bingham v Joe Perry Perry leads 6-4
Allister Carter v Mark Selby Selby leads 15-9
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Mark Williams v Marco Fu Williams leads 12-10
Liang Wenbo v Barry Hawkins Hawkins leads 2-0
Judd Trump v John Higgins Higgins leads 10-4
Ricky Walden v Ronnie O’Sullivan O'Sullivan leads 2-1

ORDER OF PLAY

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Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Thursday 27th February

10:30am

Allister Carter v Mark Selby TV
Stuart Bingham v Joe Perry

NB 1pm

Stephen Maguire v Joel Walker
Ricky Walden v Ronnie O'Sullivan TV

NB 2pm

Scott Donaldson v Ding Junhui
Judd Trump v John Higgins TV

NB 7:00pm

Mark Williams v Marco Fu TV
Liang Wenbo v Barry Hawkins

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Skullman

Now the draw has shrunk a bit:

Have included PTC matches in these as these matches are best of 7, and most EPTCs in front of a bigger audience than Newport anyway. In case you want to ignore them, I've included the effective head to heads excluding PTCs as well in brackets

Effective H2H

Mags v Walker 0-0
Donaldson v Woollaston 0-0
Donaldson v Ding 0-1 (0-0)
Bingo v Perry 2-6 (2-5)
Carter v Selby 4-7 (3-6)
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MJW v Fu 8-4 (7-2)
Liang v Hawkins 0-2 (0-1)
Trump v Higgins 2-4 (0-3)
Walden v ROS 1-2

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Skullman

Amazing how one sided MJW and Fu's H2H becomes when you exclude tin pot matches. Five of Fu's wins against MJW were in the Premier League.

Conversely, Judd looks like less of a Higgins bunny, although without PTCs as well, you can see he's never beaten Higgins in a proper match. Could be an omen...

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 32 Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

Skullman wrote:
GJ wrote:Well done Mark Williams :hatoff:

The fact that robbo went deep in most events early in 2013 pre worlds and then lost in round 1 and Sheffield , im not too fussed if he loses early in some of the lead up events this year.


Still a string of losses against people he should beat can't be great for confidence.


Yeah agree, nothing brings you more confidence than winning matches, and Robbo certainly doesn't want to go to Sheffield with lots of early exists in the events leading up to it. I think he needs a good run in one of those, if I had to bet possibly the PTC Grand Finals or his defense of China Open.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 32 Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Skullman wrote:
GJ wrote:Well done Mark Williams :hatoff:

The fact that robbo went deep in most events early in 2013 pre worlds and then lost in round 1 and Sheffield , im not too fussed if he loses early in some of the lead up events this year.


Still a string of losses against people he should beat can't be great for confidence.

Exactly

its confident zapping big time.

Theres a massive difference between not entering and losing matches.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Skullman

Andre147 PGC wrote:So TV matches for tomorrow are, if I'm not mistaken:

In order,

Selby v Carter

Ronnie v Walden

Trump v Higgins

Williams v Fu


Wild already beat you to it.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

Skullman wrote:
Andre147 PGC wrote:So TV matches for tomorrow are, if I'm not mistaken:

In order,

Selby v Carter

Ronnie v Walden

Trump v Higgins

Williams v Fu


Wild already beat you to it.


I thought we were still in the Last 32 section <doh>

yeah checked above and you're right.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

I'm expecting all matches to be close excluding Ding v Scott as I think Ding will have an easy victory, as for the others 4-2 or 4-3 I think.

Of course all depends on the day but I sense we'll see lots of them going close.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Skullman

Andre147 PGC wrote:Skull you think Carter can beat Selby?

I think it will go to a deciding frame and then guess who wins... <laugh>


To quote myself:

Skullman wrote:
RocketRonnie147 wrote:
I like Ali to take out Selby.....


How? Ali is a Selby with less scoring power and a worse temperament and safety.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 32 Discussion !!

Postby Alex0paul

Wildey wrote:
Skullman wrote:
GJ wrote:Well done Mark Williams :hatoff:

The fact that robbo went deep in most events early in 2013 pre worlds and then lost in round 1 and Sheffield , im not too fussed if he loses early in some of the lead up events this year.


Still a string of losses against people he should beat can't be great for confidence.

Exactly

its confident zapping big time.

Theres a massive difference between not entering and losing matches.


Worrying about going out early, missing events or winning matches etc is just going to wear you out. Just get on with it.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 16 Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

Skullman wrote:
Andre147 PGC wrote:Skull you think Carter can beat Selby?

I think it will go to a deciding frame and then guess who wins... <laugh>


To quote myself:

Skullman wrote:
RocketRonnie147 wrote:
I like Ali to take out Selby.....


How? Ali is a Selby with less scoring power and a worse temperament and safety.


Hum good comparison, and as much as some may not agree with me I think Ali can at times be a much more negative player than Selby.

But as I said think it will go the distance with Selby winning the decider, who else....

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 32 Discussion !!

Postby Andre147

Alex0paul wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Skullman wrote:
GJ wrote:Well done Mark Williams :hatoff:

The fact that robbo went deep in most events early in 2013 pre worlds and then lost in round 1 and Sheffield , im not too fussed if he loses early in some of the lead up events this year.


Still a string of losses against people he should beat can't be great for confidence.

Exactly

its confident zapping big time.

Theres a massive difference between not entering and losing matches.


Worrying about going out early, missing events or winning matches etc is just going to wear you out. Just get on with it.


Hadn't seen you around here for a while mate <ok> but winning matches can only boost your confidence, and as I said Robbo certainly doesn't want to go to Sheffield with a run of poor results and early exits.

Having said that he still has 3 events to correct things before Worlds so he won't be too bothered.

Re: BetVictor Welsh Open Last 32 Discussion !!

Postby Wildey

Alex0paul wrote:
Wildey wrote:
Skullman wrote:
GJ wrote:Well done Mark Williams :hatoff:

The fact that robbo went deep in most events early in 2013 pre worlds and then lost in round 1 and Sheffield , im not too fussed if he loses early in some of the lead up events this year.


Still a string of losses against people he should beat can't be great for confidence.

Exactly

its confident zapping big time.

Theres a massive difference between not entering and losing matches.


Worrying about going out early, missing events or winning matches etc is just going to wear you out. Just get on with it.

yea theres far too many players talking about peaking for events or worrying they playing too much it might put the World in jepardy etc etc.

it just puts too much pressure on you if you constantly thinking about peaking for a event Just go out there and play and if you want a break take a break no need for Fans to think its a must.

Form comes and Go you cant miss events thinking it gives you a better chance of success it doesn't work like that.

it just gives you less chance of Winning A Tournament.