by AC or LT? » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Wild WC wrote:AttitudeCarter or LuckyTrump? wrote:Wild WC wrote:AttitudeCarter or LuckyTrump? wrote:The alternative to the PTCs is less events but more full ranking events. There are 13 PTCs this season, if you added 4 proper Ranking Events in place of those it would be a lot better.
NO
if Barry Hearn had offers on the table for more Ranking Events he would do it in a heartbeat he is hoping someone will come forward with more Cash to turn some of the PTC in Europe to full Rankers however until then its PTC.
Why on earth have three PTCs in China then there's already a load of ranking events there and obviously the money flowing in - if it's about needing cash for the ranking events why not just have them China instead of Asian PTCs?
PTC in china are for a different reason the pool of players in china is massive but they cant afford to come over here to try Q school..
Next season there's 4 players on the main tour through APTC and possibly a few more depending on results elsewhere but now they got a Order of Merit to pick players from.
You mean players like Jin Long who've already had their shot at the main tour?
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by Andre147 » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Skullman wrote:It's odd how Judd's level drops against Higgins. John seems to playing his C game and is still in front. It must be a mental thing, can't think of anything else.
Hope this doesn't turn out to be another Ronnie-Williams matchups when Mark plays him... but it's certainly a mental barrier... Higgins has that power in him to do exactly that to his opponents... that's how good he is and how good his match play skils are
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by Wildey » 14 Nov 2012 Read
you got to hand it to higgins though hes like a limpit
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by Skullman » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Nevermind, found it after refreshing again.
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by Skullman » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Higgins gets frame ball. 4-2.
It seems like he's the only person in the world who can handle Judd at the moment.
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by Wildey » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Wednesday 14th of November
7pm
Final
John Higgins 4-2 Judd Trump
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by Andre147 » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Skullman wrote:Higgins gets frame ball. 4-2.
It seems like he's the only person in the world who can handle Judd at the moment.
yeah exactly like I said earlier... Higgins superb again.
Well Played Higgins
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by AC or LT? » 14 Nov 2012 Read
I'm sure that the Tinpot Trophy will take pride of place next to Higgin's World Championship Trophies!
Good Match though.
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by Witz78 » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Wild WC wrote:you got to hand it to higgins though hes like a limpit
yeh a limpit always gets stick too
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by vodkadiet » 14 Nov 2012 Read
The Bristol intellect can't even beat an ageing 40 year old in a meaningless event. What a waste of space the tripe Bristolian is.
Higgins owns Trump.
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by Casey » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Well done Higgins.
So far this season i would rate these players top 3 -
Judd
Higgins
Robbo
It's close betwen Higgins and Robbo but it's set up well for the Uk
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by Andre147 » 14 Nov 2012 Read
vodkadiet wrote:The Bristol intellect can't even beat an ageing 40 year old in a meaningless event. What a waste of space the tripe Bristolian is.
Higgins owns Trump.
Just like Ronnie onwed Williams for the past 10 years, winning all meetings, and that's doesn't make Mark a "waste of space" like you said... There are just some players that even the best players can't cope with, and certainly Higgins is the only man at the moment who owns him.
And, even though Higgins is approaching his 40s, he still plays to a levelthat sometimes can be quite staggering... his C game can beat most players, and that's how good he is...
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by vodkadiet » 14 Nov 2012 Read
The Bristol numbskull probably wishes he had lost to Thanawat than lose to his nemesis again.
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by Witz78 » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Higgins C game is his A game and im sick of it
when does he ever win a game or frame easily,
Wild tourists Davis off but Higgins is the king of hit and run snooker combined with Ebdons mind games and intensity.
Shame on Judd for allowing himself to be brainwashed by this highly over rated and lucky shyster
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by Andre147 » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Witz78 wrote:Higgins C game is his A game and im sick of it
when does he ever win a game or frame easily,
Wild tourists Davis off but Higgins is the king of hit and run snooker combined with Ebdons mind games and intensity.
Shame on Judd for allowing himself to be brainwashed by this highly over rated and lucky shyster
Yeah I agree on that... Higgins very rarely plays his true A game, but his superb matchplay skills are what wins him most matches, and it certainly pays off against Judd at the moment, and not just sheer luck
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by vodkadiet » 14 Nov 2012 Read
Witz78 wrote:Higgins C game is his A game and im sick of it
when does he ever win a game or frame easily,
Wild tourists Davis off but Higgins is the king of hit and run snooker combined with Ebdons mind games and intensity.
Shame on Judd for allowing himself to be brainwashed by this highly over rated and lucky shyster
Trump wouldn't have been in the top 8 in the mid 90s. He can't even beat Higgins when Higgins is light years past his best. What a pathetic joke the 'Girlie Bristolian' is,
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by hendry_fan » 14 Nov 2012 Read
*John Higgins* 4-2 Judd Trump
Well done John,i have to say i did,nt think you,d beat Trump,ah well,even hendry_fan can be wrong for once!.
Higgins is miles off his prime and he can still beat the current crop,in his prime he,d of steamrolled the present bunch.
The bunch who ramble on about him being lucky are obviously full of sour grapes.
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by vodkadiet » 14 Nov 2012 Read
hendry_fan wrote:*John Higgins* 4-2 Judd Trump
Well done John,i have to say i did,nt think you,d beat Trump,ah well,even hendry_fan can be wrong for once!.
Higgins is miles off his prime and he can still beat the current crop,in his prime he,d of steamrolled the present bunch.
Imagine if a prime Hendry had played this Bristol joke in a world final. Trump is only good for Twitter.
The bunch who ramble on about him being lucky are obviously full of sour grapes.
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by SnookerFan » 15 Nov 2012 Read
You can't really tourist off a player who wins tournaments with his C-game though.
Higgins wins World Championships, and people still say he played badly. What does that say about how good he is.
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by Wildey » 15 Nov 2012 Read
SnookerFan wrote:You can't really tourist off a player who wins tournaments with his C-game though.
Higgins wins World Championships, and people still say he played badly. What does that say about how good he is.
Exactly
but trump game deteriorate badly in the final he obviously has a mental block playing higgins and in many ways that's the aim of snooker putting the fear factor in to players that it makes great players look average..
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by Monique » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Higgins did what he had to do and one can only congratulate him for it.
Slightly off topic we were reflecting yesterday after the final, with Matt (prosnookerblog) and Steve (maximumsnooker) about what looks like a bit of a pattern.
When John Higgins won his first PTC in Germany, he also had struggled through the tournament and had to play his final shortly after winning his semi final (amusingly, it was Hamilton that time as well) and he totally dominated Shaun Murphy who had several hours "rest" and had looked in great shape through the entire competition.
Similarly, Rod Lawler won his first PTC (and first pro competition) having played one match after another without any real break on the last day, while his opponent should have been fresher.
Could it be that, with such short format, coming to the match high on adrenaline and "warm" is more important than being "fresh", but cold and having to settle again?
Although TBH, Judd started with a century so in this particular case it probably wasn't a factor. But still. Opinions?
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by Alpha » 15 Nov 2012 Read
You have to wonder why, if Trump is such a worthy world no.1, he can't beat a 37 year old long past it Higgins, no matter how good his B/C game is?
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by SnookerFan » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Monique wrote:Higgins did what he had to do and one can only congratulate him for it.
Slightly off topic we were reflecting yesterday after the final, with Matt (prosnookerblog) and Steve (maximumsnooker) about what looks like a bit of a pattern.
When John Higgins won his first PTC in Germany, he also had struggled through the tournament and had to play his final shortly after winning his semi final (amusingly, it was Hamilton that time as well) and he totally dominated Shaun Murphy who had several hours "rest" and had looked in great shape through the entire competition.
Similarly, Rod Lawler won his first PTC (and first pro competition) having played one match after another without any real break on the last day, while his opponent should have been fresher.
Could it be that, with such short format, coming to the match high on adrenaline and "warm" is more important than being "fresh", but cold and having to settle again?
Although TBH, Judd started with a century so in this particular case it probably wasn't a factor. But still. Opinions?
It's an interesting thought, and maybe if you've only finished your previous game a few minutes earlier, you are more 'on' than somebody who has had a longer rest.
How many times have we seen a Mid-Session interval change a game? When somebody who is in white-hot form before the break, suddenly get pegged back afterwards? It's been speculated before that the person with a 4-0 win at the MSI that goes on to lose 5-4 in a BO9 may well have won had it not been for the MSI.
We can never really measure that, but it's an interesting point you raise.
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by Roland » 15 Nov 2012 Read
The best player in the world is long past it is he?
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by Alpha » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Sonny wrote:The best player in the world is long past it is he?
I might be exaggerating a bit when I say he's past it but his best years are behind him now. And the best player in the world isn't currently playing.
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by SnookerFan » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Sonny wrote:The best player in the world is long past it is he?
People seem to like making out Higgins is really rubbish when he isn't.
When I was the Higgins vs Trump Crucible Final there were some guys round me in the final session that kept badmouthing Higgins. Saying how rubbish he was, what a flukester he was. Trump was much better. Higgins won.
Of course the same blokes didn't think Trump was rubbish when he got beat by somebody they'd labelled 'rubbish'.
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by Witz78 » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Exhibit A-
When did Higgins last win a frame, match or tournament easy playing a dominant brand of snooker?
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by Roland » 15 Nov 2012 Read
People should watch the Higgins/Trump World Final again and see how Higgins won it. You're bloody stupid if you think he played poorly, it was a match play master class.
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by Sickpotter » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Witz78 wrote:Exhibit A-
When did Higgins last win a frame, match or tournament easy playing a dominant brand of snooker?
Let's see, in the last PTC he made many frame winning breaks.
Even though he was often behind in matches he still came out the dominant player, he won.
What does "winning easy" have to do with anything? The goal is winning, period.
Not sure what you're trying to allude to here, is there a point to your Exhibit A?
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by Sickpotter » 15 Nov 2012 Read
Monique wrote:Higgins did what he had to do and one can only congratulate him for it.
Slightly off topic we were reflecting yesterday after the final, with Matt (prosnookerblog) and Steve (maximumsnooker) about what looks like a bit of a pattern.
When John Higgins won his first PTC in Germany, he also had struggled through the tournament and had to play his final shortly after winning his semi final (amusingly, it was Hamilton that time as well) and he totally dominated Shaun Murphy who had several hours "rest" and had looked in great shape through the entire competition.
Similarly, Rod Lawler won his first PTC (and first pro competition) having played one match after another without any real break on the last day, while his opponent should have been fresher.
Could it be that, with such short format, coming to the match high on adrenaline and "warm" is more important than being "fresh", but cold and having to settle again?
Although TBH, Judd started with a century so in this particular case it probably wasn't a factor. But still. Opinions?
IMO I'd rather go straight from one match to the next with this short format. Rest is nice but if one's already in the flow I think it best to keep it going.
Judd coming right out with a ton is more the exception than the norm, most times players require a couple of frames to get the cue arm going. In short format events if you can bypass the need for those opening/warmup frames you have a huge advantage over others coming in cold.
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