Star Xing Pai Haikou World Open Last 16 Discussion!!

GJ wrote:So advantage lee for tomorrow as he played on an outside table in round 1

PS

Snookey can i ask why you dislike lee ?

Witz78 wrote:

GJ wrote:So advantage lee for tomorrow as he played on an outside table in round 1

PS

Snookey can i ask why you dislike lee ?

a lot of folk seem to dislike Lee

personally i hope he wins this event then sticks 2 fingers up at the On Q brigade

GJ wrote:witz

A test of your prediction powers

robbo v lee

either 3 out of 3 after your 2 hendo and robbo ones right

or 2/3

Skullman wrote:Thoughts on the matches:

The seeds really don't like this tournament, do they? Just 8 out of 14 through to the last 16, least since Australia I think.

Higgins vs Cope: Higgins hasn't been his best this season, and has been looking to play himself into form before his big title defence. This is probably the best chance he will get, Cope and then either Milkins or Jin Long. Sould be an easy run to the semis. Then again, with the ways things have been going here, Jin Long will porbably end up getting through the quarter!

Long vs Milkins: Milkins looks to be in good form, although not sure if he won his last 32 match or whether Maguire lost it. Don't really care tbh. But probably Milkins.

Dott vs Campbell: Interesting that Dott has never beaten Campbell. Nevertheless, expecting Graeme to come through as he has beaten one of the more dangerous qualifiers, while Marcus hasn't played a match yet and will be coming in cold.

Lee vs Robertson: Lee has been playing well lately. Semis in Berlin, and if not for an untimely phone on his backswing, he was going to be in the semis in Newort, while Neil has a bad record in China, excluding his run to the semis in Shanghai last September. Robbo is different class though, and even though he didn't look his Hendry, I think he can up his level.

King vs Ford: Suprised King was here tbh but MJW has been crap since Shanghai. I'm guessing his climb to no1 in the world rankings and Berlin last year were his last glories and I'm expecting him to slide back down now. Think Ford will win this, as he seems to do well against qualifiers and maybe this will relieve the pressure he feels at venues. Although King is battler, and will at least give Trump/Allen a game.

Trump vs Allen: Should be a cracking match. Trump beat him in York, but three people he beat in York have got their revenge on him. Can Allen be the fourth? Should be a cracker and I expect the winner to reach the semis.

Murphy vs Perry: Perry seems to be playing well but Murphy should win this. Good chance for him for to go one step further than his semis this season and win.

Selby vs Holt: Holt looks to be playing well, while Selby just scraped through. However, whenever Selby has a crap first round, he usually ups his game and does well in the tournament (see Shanghai and Newport). Selby looks like he has had his dip in form for the season already and has recovered from it. And if he wins he has a chance to get his revenge on Murphy.

Then again, the way this tournament has been going we could end up with Long, Campbell, King and Holt in the semis.

Witz78 wrote:

Skullman wrote:Thoughts on the matches:

The seeds really don't like this tournament, do they? Just 8 out of 14 through to the last 16, least since Australia I think.

Higgins vs Cope: Higgins hasn't been his best this season, and has been looking to play himself into form before his big title defence. This is probably the best chance he will get, Cope and then either Milkins or Jin Long. Sould be an easy run to the semis. Then again, with the ways things have been going here, Jin Long will porbably end up getting through the quarter!

Long vs Milkins: Milkins looks to be in good form, although not sure if he won his last 32 match or whether Maguire lost it. Don't really care tbh. But probably Milkins.

Dott vs Campbell: Interesting that Dott has never beaten Campbell. Nevertheless, expecting Graeme to come through as he has beaten one of the more dangerous qualifiers, while Marcus hasn't played a match yet and will be coming in cold.

Lee vs Robertson: Lee has been playing well lately. Semis in Berlin, and if not for an untimely phone on his backswing, he was going to be in the semis in Newort, while Neil has a bad record in China, excluding his run to the semis in Shanghai last September. Robbo is different class though, and even though he didn't look his Hendry, I think he can up his level.

King vs Ford: Suprised King was here tbh but MJW has been crap since Shanghai. I'm guessing his climb to no1 in the world rankings and Berlin last year were his last glories and I'm expecting him to slide back down now. Think Ford will win this, as he seems to do well against qualifiers and maybe this will relieve the pressure he feels at venues. Although King is battler, and will at least give Trump/Allen a game.

Trump vs Allen: Should be a cracking match. Trump beat him in York, but three people he beat in York have got their revenge on him. Can Allen be the fourth? Should be a cracker and I expect the winner to reach the semis.

Murphy vs Perry: Perry seems to be playing well but Murphy should win this. Good chance for him for to go one step further than his semis this season and win.

Selby vs Holt: Holt looks to be playing well, while Selby just scraped through. However, whenever Selby has a crap first round, he usually ups his game and does well in the tournament (see Shanghai and Newport). Selby looks like he has had his dip in form for the season already and has recovered from it. And if he wins he has a chance to get his revenge on Murphy.

Then again, the way this tournament has been going we could end up with Long, Campbell, King and Holt in the semis.

we will no doubt see a donkey winner of this event

thanks to WS cocking up the rankings cut offs this event has little interest for the bulk of the big boys

then idiotic comments from the likes of Allen insulting the host nation

hes lucky this wasnt the Libyan Open or Gadaffis supporters would have left him to rot on the streets along with the dead cats

GJ wrote:So advantage lee for tomorrow as he played on an outside table in round 1

PS

Snookey can i ask why you dislike lee ?

snooky147 wrote:

GJ wrote:So advantage lee for tomorrow as he played on an outside table in round 1

PS

Snookey can i ask why you dislike lee ?

Of course you can mate. My dislike for him goes back to the very first time i saw him in Prestatyn the first time i took Graeme. I watched Mark Williams as he destroyed his opponents, whether they be good or rubbish but no matter what he gave them respect on the table. When i watched lee he exuded contempt to most he was playing as if they had no right to be there and over the years that arrogance and rudeness just got worse. Nothing to do with him and Graeme, they get along okay i am told. Nothing to do with his weight, i am just as heavy, if not more though i am losing it, 4 stone and counting. He went from a very good free flowing player to a nervy, hesitant methodical player over the course of a few seasons just like Robertson is doing now, curbing his natural attacking instincts. At the moment it is paying off for Neil but he will come unstuck bigtime. I have seen this so often in the players when i was around the tour scene in the past. They never seem to realise that they do themselves infinitly more harm than good because all sorts of negativity starts to play with their heads and your Lees Robertsons and to an extent Selby are too good as attackers but curbing as they do they do themselves an injustice.

Skullman wrote:Robbo does seem to be more negative than he needs to be. In the Masters he was tactical when he needed to be, but I think he's going overboard now. He was rejecting relatively simple pots agianst Hendry today that he wouldn't normally. He's trying to be more like Higgins, but isn't doing a good job of it. Higgins is a brilliant tactical player, but he goes for his pots and gets them more often than not. Neil should remember to do that sometimes. Still early days in this tournament though and Neil can be attacking in his next match against Lee.

Monique wrote:@snooky147 @GJ

It isn't easy for the players.
When they go for their shots even when they obviously are on a bad day - like Hendry and ROS f.i. - get are accused of "throwing" the matches. When they take a more conservative approach, curb their natural instincts, like Selby and - only to an extend - Robertson they are at risk to bog themselves down and win less than they could have done. You can't please everyone.

Skullman wrote:Well hopes he ups his game anyway. Still hoping for that Selby-Robbo final. Hell I'm still hoping for a Robbo Selby match that isn't in the Championship/Premier League.

snooky147 wrote:

Skullman wrote:Well hopes he ups his game anyway. Still hoping for that Selby-Robbo final. Hell I'm still hoping for a Robbo Selby match that isn't in the Championship/Premier League.

God........ As long as its not a World final. Can you imagine it. Best of 35 played over a week

Skullman wrote:

snooky147 wrote:

Skullman wrote:Well hopes he ups his game anyway. Still hoping for that Selby-Robbo final. Hell I'm still hoping for a Robbo Selby match that isn't in the Championship/Premier League.

God........ As long as its not a World final. Can you imagine it. Best of 35 played over a week

2006.

jojo wrote:robertson would never have won as much as he has done if he didnt adapt his play before he was way too one dimensional such as players like allen and murphy and the like

murphys style holds him back from winning more classic example is their masters final the only way he was going to win that was if he was playing really well he got no plan b the danger signs were there against higgins the night before

jojo wrote:robertson would never have won as much as he has done if he didnt adapt his play before he was way too one dimensional such as players like allen and murphy and the like

murphys style holds him back from winning more classic example is their masters final the only way he was going to win that was if he was playing really well he got no plan b the danger signs were there against higgins the night before

snooky147 wrote:

Skullman wrote:

snooky147 wrote:

Skullman wrote:Well hopes he ups his game anyway. Still hoping for that Selby-Robbo final. Hell I'm still hoping for a Robbo Selby match that isn't in the Championship/Premier League.

God........ As long as its not a World final. Can you imagine it. Best of 35 played over a week

2006.

Haaaa, i knew that would be the answer. I freely admit and so does Graeme that it wasn't the best but it takes two to tango and if Peter had picked up the pace and the games werent so safety orientated it might have been quicker so when i say stuff about Robbo or Selby there's really no need to come up with the 2006 quote because i know how much of a slog it was, i watch it regularly in its entirety Graeme thinks i'm nuts when I tell him i'm watching it again.

Skullman wrote:Still think Murphy will win something this season. Maybe this or China, or even the Worlds

If you keep knocking on the door, it will open eventually.

GJ wrote:

Skullman wrote:Still think Murphy will win something this season. Maybe this or China, or even the Worlds

If you keep knocking on the door, it will open eventually.

cant see him winning another worlds

GJ wrote:

Skullman wrote:Still think Murphy will win something this season. Maybe this or China, or even the Worlds

If you keep knocking on the door, it will open eventually.

cant see him winning another worlds

Muppet147 wrote:

GJ wrote:

Skullman wrote:Still think Murphy will win something this season. Maybe this or China, or even the Worlds

If you keep knocking on the door, it will open eventually.

cant see him winning another worlds

Or Robbo.