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Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

of course he has skullman

these young guys can pot a ball but have nothing upstairs

soon as the matches goes scrappy or they lose a few frames they turn into a bag of nerves

all over

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

Witz78 wrote:of course he has skullman

these young guys can pot a ball but have nothing upstairs

soon as the matches goes scrappy or they lose a few frames they turn into a bag of nerves

all over


Well he's in the balls in the decider now. Anyway, the qualifiers are a good place to separate the mindless potting machines from the players who have the mental strength to become the game's future stars. They have learn all parts of the game before facing the big boys. Not all of them will make it, but those that do will be better players for it.

Edit: Just as I say that, Yan's gone in off and has given Dunn a chance.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Wildey

Thursday 23rd of February


2.30pm

Ken Doherty 5-4 Michael White
Mike Dunn 4-5 Li Yan
Michael Holt 5-1 Peter Lines
Nigel Bond 2-5 Ben Woollaston
Jack Lisowski 5-3 Dave Harold

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

Been a good tournament for the Chinese qualifiers. All the chinese players from the morning and afternoon sessions are through, with either Xiao or Liang joining them, as well potentially Cai Yupeng and Yu De Lu.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

Witz78 wrote:GET IN THERE

THE JINXING WORKED

EASY 200QUID WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


<laugh> Now I see why you were so snake hissed off about Brecel and White losing.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

Skullman wrote:Been a good tournament for the Chinese qualifiers. All the chinese players from the morning and afternoon sessions are through, with either Xiao or Liang joining them, as well potentially Cai Yupeng and Yu De Lu.


potentially we could have Asians

Yan
Chuang
Delu
Mehta
Guodong
Yupeng

qualifying

then having to play fellow Asians in the wildcard round

total joke

sooner this WC round nonsense ends the better

the qualifiers have earned their right and should be in the last 32. END OF :no:

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

Not entirely sure about that. Agree about Chinese wildcards as the game has exploded there and there always someone for the Chinese audience to watch. Same with European wildcards as they have six PTc they can enter to gain a chance of playing the top players. For other countries like Australia, Brazil if they go back there, or India next year, where the game isn't massive and the nearest PTC is halfway aroound the world, perhaps wildcards rounds may not be so bad.

One solution is to have them more exhibition-like, so the qualifiers get through regardless of whether they win or not. The only problem with that is the wildcards don't get proper match practice and it doesn't with in with Bazza's philosophy of not rewarding mediocrity. Plus we could miss out on a potential great player like Ding, who could cause the popularity of the game to explode in their country.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby JIMO96

Skullman wrote:Not entirely sure about that. Agree about Chinese wildcards as the game has exploded there and there always someone for the Chinese audience to watch. Same with European wildcards as they have six PTc they can enter to gain a chance of playing the top players. For other countries like Australia, Brazil if they go back there, or India next year, where the game isn't massive and the nearest PTC is halfway aroound the world, perhaps wildcards rounds may not be so bad.

One solution is to have them more exhibition-like, so the qualifiers get through regardless of whether they win or not. The only problem with that is the wildcards don't get proper match practice and it doesn't with in with Bazza's philosophy of not rewarding mediocrity. Plus we could miss out on a potential great player like Ding, who could cause the popularity of the game to explode in their country.


OR......withhold the Li, Liu and Liang/Xiao final qualifying round ties until the event proper. Similar for Mehta, Yu and Cao if they win tonight. They haven't decided the wildcards anyway, and I'm sure the Chinese public would rather follow a "proper" professional of theirs.....

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

JIMO96 wrote:
Skullman wrote:Not entirely sure about that. Agree about Chinese wildcards as the game has exploded there and there always someone for the Chinese audience to watch. Same with European wildcards as they have six PTc they can enter to gain a chance of playing the top players. For other countries like Australia, Brazil if they go back there, or India next year, where the game isn't massive and the nearest PTC is halfway aroound the world, perhaps wildcards rounds may not be so bad.

One solution is to have them more exhibition-like, so the qualifiers get through regardless of whether they win or not. The only problem with that is the wildcards don't get proper match practice and it doesn't with in with Bazza's philosophy of not rewarding mediocrity. Plus we could miss out on a potential great player like Ding, who could cause the popularity of the game to explode in their country.


OR......withhold the Li, Liu and Liang/Xiao final qualifying round ties until the event proper. Similar for Mehta, Yu and Cao if they win tonight. They haven't decided the wildcards anyway, and I'm sure the Chinese public would rather follow a "proper" professional of theirs.....


they have decided the wildcards, TT and Jin Long are 2 of them

that would make sense, also Fus game could be held back but the issue and argument against that would be having additional players travelling over incurring expenses.

but the way it is, these 8 lowest ranked qualifiers are going to incur expenses and risk not making the last 32 anyway.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

JIMO96 wrote:
Skullman wrote:Not entirely sure about that. Agree about Chinese wildcards as the game has exploded there and there always someone for the Chinese audience to watch. Same with European wildcards as they have six PTc they can enter to gain a chance of playing the top players. For other countries like Australia, Brazil if they go back there, or India next year, where the game isn't massive and the nearest PTC is halfway aroound the world, perhaps wildcards rounds may not be so bad.

One solution is to have them more exhibition-like, so the qualifiers get through regardless of whether they win or not. The only problem with that is the wildcards don't get proper match practice and it doesn't with in with Bazza's philosophy of not rewarding mediocrity. Plus we could miss out on a potential great player like Ding, who could cause the popularity of the game to explode in their country.


OR......withhold the Li, Liu and Liang/Xiao final qualifying round ties until the event proper. Similar for Mehta, Yu and Cao if they win tonight. They haven't decided the wildcards anyway, and I'm sure the Chinese public would rather follow a "proper" professional of theirs.....


I get that, but for other events like India next year what are they going to do, withhold all four of Adi's matches, if he even makes the tour year. Same with Australia and Brazil if they go back again.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

for Australia next year they could withold Selts qualifiers over the venue

and preferably a ONE-WAY ticket only for him too

sure hed soon find another persistantly coughing scarecrow lookalike on Bondi Beach

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby JIMO96

Skullman wrote:
JIMO96 wrote:
Skullman wrote:Not entirely sure about that. Agree about Chinese wildcards as the game has exploded there and there always someone for the Chinese audience to watch. Same with European wildcards as they have six PTc they can enter to gain a chance of playing the top players. For other countries like Australia, Brazil if they go back there, or India next year, where the game isn't massive and the nearest PTC is halfway aroound the world, perhaps wildcards rounds may not be so bad.

One solution is to have them more exhibition-like, so the qualifiers get through regardless of whether they win or not. The only problem with that is the wildcards don't get proper match practice and it doesn't with in with Bazza's philosophy of not rewarding mediocrity. Plus we could miss out on a potential great player like Ding, who could cause the popularity of the game to explode in their country.


OR......withhold the Li, Liu and Liang/Xiao final qualifying round ties until the event proper. Similar for Mehta, Yu and Cao if they win tonight. They haven't decided the wildcards anyway, and I'm sure the Chinese public would rather follow a "proper" professional of theirs.....


I get that, but for other events like India next year what are they going to do, withhold all four of Adi's matches, if he even makes the tour year. Same with Australia and Brazil if they go back again.


Nah, that would be a logistical pain. I just meant that with a handful of Asian players so close to qualifying, it might be better to hold over their last 48 matches. I know it's a bit of a last minute adjustment, but it would be a nice gesture to the Asians, who absurdly have to qualify for it, thousands of miles from home in Sheffield anyway!

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby JIMO96

Witz78 wrote:for Australia next year they could withold Selts qualifiers over the venue

and preferably a ONE-WAY ticket only for him too

sure hed soon find another persistantly coughing scarecrow lookalike on Bondi Beach


Lol, what's your dislike of Selt, Witz? While you're at it, and seeing as I'm new here, you could answer another couple of puzzlers.....

Why do you refer to Neil Robertson as "Jono"?

What's a "CDL"?

Thanks in advance!

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

JIMO96 wrote:
Skullman wrote:
JIMO96 wrote:
Skullman wrote:Not entirely sure about that. Agree about Chinese wildcards as the game has exploded there and there always someone for the Chinese audience to watch. Same with European wildcards as they have six PTc they can enter to gain a chance of playing the top players. For other countries like Australia, Brazil if they go back there, or India next year, where the game isn't massive and the nearest PTC is halfway aroound the world, perhaps wildcards rounds may not be so bad.

One solution is to have them more exhibition-like, so the qualifiers get through regardless of whether they win or not. The only problem with that is the wildcards don't get proper match practice and it doesn't with in with Bazza's philosophy of not rewarding mediocrity. Plus we could miss out on a potential great player like Ding, who could cause the popularity of the game to explode in their country.


OR......withhold the Li, Liu and Liang/Xiao final qualifying round ties until the event proper. Similar for Mehta, Yu and Cao if they win tonight. They haven't decided the wildcards anyway, and I'm sure the Chinese public would rather follow a "proper" professional of theirs.....


I get that, but for other events like India next year what are they going to do, withhold all four of Adi's matches, if he even makes the tour year. Same with Australia and Brazil if they go back again.


Nah, that would be a logistical pain. I just meant that with a handful of Asian players so close to qualifying, it might be better to hold over their last 48 matches. I know it's a bit of a last minute adjustment, but it would be a nice gesture to the Asians, who absurdly have to qualify for it, thousands of miles from home in Sheffield anyway!


That comment about holding all of Adi's matches was tongue in cheek btw ;-) . I'm not talking about the China Open specifically, where your plan seems reasonable, I'm talking about future events in other countries apart from China, where they don't have local players on the tour to support, and the ones that are on the tour are unlikely to make it to the venue stage/last 48.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby JIMO96

Lol it's hard to recognise tongue-in-cheek sometimes on here!

Hopefully future events will have all 128 pros playing from round 1, hopefully at the venue, but if not, it would only be a couple of rounds to carry over, therefore not so much of a nuisance.

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

JIMO96 wrote:Lol it's hard to recognise tongue-in-cheek sometimes on here!

Hopefully future events will have all 128 pros playing from round 1, hopefully at the venue, but if not, it would only be a couple of rounds to carry over, therefore not so much of a nuisance.


the full 128 players will not go to the venues

that wouldnt be practical timewise or financially

rounds 1 and 2 will be pre-venue with the last 32 reaching the venue proper

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Wildey

Jamie Jones 2-2 Cao Yupeng
Alan McManus 1-1 Aditya Mehta
Jamie Burnett 1-3 Yu De Lu
Liang Wenbo 1-2 Xiao Guodong
Steve Davis 1-0 Rod Lawler

has someone told Davis/lawler they playing Rory at 10am lol

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

Wild wrote:Jamie Jones 2-2 Cao Yupeng
Alan McManus 1-1 Aditya Mehta
Jamie Burnett 1-3 Yu De Lu
Liang Wenbo 1-2 Xiao Guodong
Steve Davis 1-0 Rod Lawler

has someone told Davis/lawler they playing Rory at 10am lol


by the way whats with the farce of a winner tonight first thing back on tomorrow morning

total stupidity

what the hell is the reason?

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Skullman

Wild wrote:Jamie Jones 2-2 Cao Yupeng
Alan McManus 1-1 Aditya Mehta
Jamie Burnett 1-3 Yu De Lu
Liang Wenbo 1-2 Xiao Guodong
Steve Davis 1-0 Rod Lawler

has someone told Davis/lawler they playing Rory at 10am lol


The rate they're playing all the other matches would be back from their intervals before they pot this last red. Tomoorow morning's matches included. rofl

Re: China Open Qualifying Discussion !!!!

Postby Witz78

Skullman wrote:
Wild wrote:Jamie Jones 2-2 Cao Yupeng
Alan McManus 1-1 Aditya Mehta
Jamie Burnett 1-3 Yu De Lu
Liang Wenbo 1-2 Xiao Guodong
Steve Davis 1-0 Rod Lawler

has someone told Davis/lawler they playing Rory at 10am lol


The rate they're playing all the other matches would be back from their intervals before they pot this last red. Tomoorow morning's matches included. rofl


there doing a damn fine impression of Jono and Wiggy it has to be said :D