PartyPoker.net German Masters Last 16 Discussion !!

Sonny wrote:Obviously the Higgins and ROS being 4-0 down with different outcomes doesn't prove anything because from what I heard Higginson blew a few good chances and coming back against Maguire is a different proposition entirely. The other factor is that this time last year in the same venue Higgins got news that his dad had died and when he's sat in his seat watching Maguire at the table, it's nailed on that this entered his mind. If it is the anniversary today then it's even more nailed on. I'm not say he would've won otherwise, far from it because Maguire beat him in the UK last month, and I didn't see the match but from what I've read I've got the impression he didn't look to be in the best frame of mind.

Higginson missed match ball a few times

his odds at 1 point were

1/200

higginson was horse rubbish from 4-2 played like the journeyman he is

jojo wrote:higginson was horse rubbish from 4-2 played like the journeyman he is

Andrew is a great lad but to be honest the lad is a choker under extreme pressure he did the same in welsh final to robbo.

To put it into perspective. Higginson has proved himself to be a top quality player and has had a lot of good results over the last few seasons. He also has history of "Clinchers Disease" as Clive Everton puts it when he was 9-6 up in the Welsh Open final to Robbo.

Now Higginson like everyone here will have watched Ronnie in full flow playing unbelievable snooker hundreds of times. When you are the one who is one frame away from a famous victory, and you know he's been having an off day and you find yourself 4-0 ahead and suddenly Ronnie shows signs of getting his tail up and playing well, chances are you will rubbish yourself.

Less of the derogatory terms like "choker" and "journeyman" please.

Sonny wrote:To put it into perspective. Higginson has proved himself to be a top quality player and has had a lot of good results over the last few seasons. He also has history of "Clinchers Disease" as Clive Everton puts it when he was 9-6 up in the Welsh Open final to Robbo.

Now Higginson like everyone here will have watched Ronnie in full flow playing unbelievable snooker hundreds of times. When you are the one who is one frame away from a famous victory, and you know he's been having an off day and you find yourself 4-0 ahead and suddenly Ronnie shows signs of getting his tail up and playing well, chances are you will rubbish yourself.

Less of the derogatory terms like "choker" and "journeyman" please.

sorry boss

excited for robbo v stevens shame its live scoring as ronnie hogs tv table again

Sonny wrote:To put it into perspective. Higginson has proved himself to be a top quality player and has had a lot of good results over the last few seasons. He also has history of "Clinchers Disease" as Clive Everton puts it when he was 9-6 up in the Welsh Open final to Robbo.

Now Higginson like everyone here will have watched Ronnie in full flow playing unbelievable snooker hundreds of times. When you are the one who is one frame away from a famous victory, and you know he's been having an off day and you find yourself 4-0 ahead and suddenly Ronnie shows signs of getting his tail up and playing well, chances are you will donkey doo yourself.

Less of the derogatory terms like "choker" and "journeyman" please.

Exactly.

Also Higginson hasn't beaten Ronnie that often and the head to head record is always a factor.

Can't see Stevens troubling Robbo to be honest. I just hope Ronnie v Robbo gets the nod ahead of Judd v Higgins if they all win through to the quarters.

Doh, Higgins lost. Well that's that then because Judd v Mags won't get the billing ahead of Robbo v Ronnie for certain.

whether he rubbish himself or not my opinion is he a journeyman but that doesnt mean to say i dislike him

maybe im being a bit too harsh because he was unlucky not to win 5-1 after some good pots never landed on a colour and when he didnt get a good snooker behind the green like he sould have done being more than sixty points up and ronnie potted a long red and cleared up the writing was on the wall

it looking like a judd v ronnie or robertson final

what about Selby and Murphy?

Sonny wrote:what about Selby and Murphy?

Selby a good chance IMO

Nonetheless a straight 5 frame comeback to win a match is still something special. We see a 4 frames comeback from time to time but anything above that is very rare. As I said before it was the first time I saw (unfortunetly I actually missed it ) Ronnie pull it off in any match since I began watching snooker in 2006.

Ronnie could have done with Carter beating Perry since he has never lost to Carter and would have steamrollered past him as usual.

Can see Perry causing problems to Ronnie, hes dealt out a few beatings and also adopted dubious tactics and mind games in the past, most notably in the UK game 3 or 4 years ago when Ronnie imploded from 5-2 up losing 7 on the spin.

Witz78 wrote:Ronnie could have done with Carter beating Perry since he has never lost to Carter and would have steamrollered past him as usual.

Can see Perry causing problems to Ronnie, hes dealt out a few beatings and also adopted dubious tactics and mind games in the past, most notably in the UK game 3 or 4 years ago when Ronnie imploded from 5-2 up losing 7 on the spin.

joseph

Snooker Overdrive wrote:Nonetheless a straight 5 frame comeback to win a match is still something special. We see a 4 frames comeback from time to time but anything above that is very rare. As I said before it was the first time I saw (unfortunetly I actually missed it ) Ronnie pull it off in any match since I began watching snooker in 2006.

he pulled it off in his China press conference a few years back

Doherty did it quite recently didn't he? Was it against Wenbo? I remember being gutted.

Anyway, having finally studied the draw I think Joe Perry has more than a good chance of beating Ronnie, and my pick of the tv table would be Dott/Selby v Murphy. So you can't keep everyone happy. At least at the weekend we'll get to see all the action.

If it goes close cant see robbo losing to matthew

Matthews only hope is a 5-0 or 5-1

Robbo loves facing ronnnie but would also like a match with his good pal joe

Snooker Overdrive wrote:Nonetheless a straight 5 frame comeback to win a match is still something special. We see a 4 frames comeback from time to time but anything above that is very rare. As I said before it was the first time I saw (unfortunetly I actually missed it ) Ronnie pull it off in any match since I began watching snooker in 2006.

im trying to think of some but cant

most notable comebacks i can think of are the UK game he came back from 8-2 down to level before ultimately losing decider

and the Masters game when Aussie surfdude / bleach bumboy / deformed scarecrow coughed his way to a 3-0 lead before doing the campest lamest Ebdon impression ever then Ronnie thought "sod this, time i started trying" and put the poor mans Quinten Hann in his place. More like Quinten Crisp

Sonny wrote:Doherty did it quite recently didn't he? Was it against Wenbo? I remember being gutted.

Anyway, having finally studied the draw I think Joe Perry has more than a good chance of beating Ronnie, and my pick of the tv table would be Dott/Selby v Murphy. So you can't keep everyone happy. At least at the weekend we'll get to see all the action.

it was against one of the young guns in a qualifier, cant for the life of me remember what one, itll come to me

I'm sure he was Chinese in which case Xiao or Yan probably.

GJ wrote:If it goes close cant see robbo losing to matthew

Matthews only hope is a 5-0 or 5-1

Robbo loves facing ronnnie but would also like a match with his good pal joe

Robbos one of the top players who Ronnie doesnt fear

the ones he does fear are

Selby, Trump, Higgins

the ones he loves playing are

Ding, Murphy, Maguire, Carter, Stevens

the ones hes indifferent about facing are

Allen, Robbo, Dott

i think dott will cause selby problems but to be honest out of the three players murphy dott and selby whoever faces judd in the semi the way judd is playing i think he will be strong favorite

i think selby out of the three players could give judd most trouble but the way i see selby play in the uk and masters i cant see him beating dott then murphy then judd

murphy i think will play judd in the semi both will suit each others games but theres something uneasy about murphy where he pushes the boat out at the wrong time

think he will get into an ego contest with judd trying to outpot him and fail because pound for pound judd a better player i see murphy try this so many times against ronnie and come unstuck the same will happen against judd i feel

Sonny wrote:I'm sure he was Chinese in which case Xiao or Yan probably.

def wasnt Xiao

not Yan either i dont think

im sure he was British, sod it gonna have to check

Witz78 wrote:

GJ wrote:If it goes close cant see robbo losing to matthew

Matthews only hope is a 5-0 or 5-1

Robbo loves facing ronnnie but would also like a match with his good pal joe

Robbos one of the top players who Ronnie doesnt fear

the ones he does fear are

Selby, Trump, Higgins

the ones he loves playing are

Ding, Murphy, Maguire, Carter, Stevens

the ones hes indifferent about facing are

Allen, Robbo, Dott

5-1 2006 grand prix

5-1 world open final

5-4 welsh open 2007

My ranking of the new tournament favourites:

1. Judd Trump
2. Neil Robertson
3. Mark Selby
4. Ronnie O'Sullivan
5. Mark Williams
6. Shaun Murphy
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7. Stephen Maguire
8. Stuart Bingham
9. Graeme Dott
10. Matthew Stevens
11. Joe Perry

Only the first 6 can actually win this thing.

Sam Craigie in the German qualifiers it was.

if it is robertson v judd in the final i would make robertson favourite that man fast becoming an all weather type player and it clear after the events at the masters robertson has got inside trumps head

Well done Ronnie Great comeback.

The Cueist wrote:Well done Ronnie Great comeback.