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If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Keep it and let it keep its ranking status
6
30%
Keep it but not as a ranking title
12
60%
Scrap it entirely
2
10%
 
Total votes : 20

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Pink Ball

HustleKing wrote:Went scrap it entirely. It's still pretty pointless even if it's not a ranker and the Soccer AM style crowd banter is embarrassing

It's not really pointless though, is it? I do find it entertaining, at times, and part of that comes from some serious money still being at stake. It gives lower-ranked players a potential lifeline in terms of earnings, but doesn't just hand them that lifeline at the same time. It's probably extremely hard to win and, yes, there is quite a bit of skill still involved.

Okay, I appreciate other sports don't do that, but why do we have to be a carbon copy of other sports?

It just shouldn't be a ranking tournament. The irony is that ranking status was given to it to boost its importance but has actually been the very thing that has undermined it most.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SnookerFan

Pink Ball wrote:
HustleKing wrote:Went scrap it entirely. It's still pretty pointless even if it's not a ranker and the Soccer AM style crowd banter is embarrassing

It's not really pointless though, is it? I do find it entertaining, at times, and part of that comes from some serious money still being at stake. It gives lower-ranked players a potential lifeline in terms of earnings, but doesn't just hand them that lifeline at the same time. It's probably extremely hard to win and, yes, there is quite a bit of skill still involved.

Okay, I appreciate other sports don't do that, but why do we have to be a carbon copy of other sports?

It just shouldn't be a ranking tournament. The irony is that ranking status was given to it to boost its importance but has actually been the very thing that has undermined it most.


I'd go with this.

It's existence isn't a problem, and can be ignored if you don't like it.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Andre147

SnookerFan wrote:As if you didn't know my opinion, I voted to keep it but not as a ranking event.

The one choice Hearn didn't give in his vote.


Yes precisely what I think. Of course players didnt want it to be scrapped, but if they were given the 2nd option, maybe it would have been a fairer reflection.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby HustleKing

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:On the WST video on YouTube there's a brief comment about an American Shootout being held.


Hopefully it would be called something else in the US, as calling it a shootout there would be a bit insensitive

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Pink Ball

HustleKing wrote:
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:On the WST video on YouTube there's a brief comment about an American Shootout being held.


Hopefully it would be called something else in the US, as calling it a shootout there would be a bit insensitive

Knowing the yanks, it's the very thing that would get them interested

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SnookerFan

HustleKing wrote:
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:On the WST video on YouTube there's a brief comment about an American Shootout being held.


Hopefully it would be called something else in the US, as calling it a shootout there would be a bit insensitive


They'd probably be disappointed that there was no actual shooting involved.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Ck147

SnookerFan wrote:
HustleKing wrote:
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:On the WST video on YouTube there's a brief comment about an American Shootout being held.


Hopefully it would be called something else in the US, as calling it a shootout there would be a bit insensitive


They'd probably be disappointed that there was no actual shooting involved.

Lol

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby eraserhead

SnookerFan wrote:
HustleKing wrote:
KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:On the WST video on YouTube there's a brief comment about an American Shootout being held.


Hopefully it would be called something else in the US, as calling it a shootout there would be a bit insensitive


They'd probably be disappointed that there was no actual shooting involved.

:goodpost:

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby HustleKing

Snooker89 wrote:Scrap It and replace it with the Irish Masters at Goffs. RTE would need to come on board but I think it is possible.


Virgin Media would need to come on board. RTE don't give a silt about sport anymore apart from the Dublin footballers, preferably on a Saturday night at 7pm in Croke Park :roll:

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Andre147

Vallomas wrote:Why don't they call it a minor ranking event, like the old PTCs?


Good idea actually.

It could still carry ranking points, but not count towards an official ranking event title.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Andre147

SnookerFan wrote:I have a feeling TV viewership is poor. Hence why it's a ranking event and now part of the European tour prize fund.

Hearn is trying to get bigger names there at all costs.


Still, many top players didnt take part in it.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SnookerFan

Andre147 wrote:
SnookerFan wrote:I have a feeling TV viewership is poor. Hence why it's a ranking event and now part of the European tour prize fund.

Hearn is trying to get bigger names there at all costs.


Still, many top players didnt take part in it.


The European prize plan didn't really work this year, to be fair.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Ck147

Interesting that somebody voted to keep it and it's ranking status. Someone who has unique insights and knows better, or a fool who knows nothing?

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SnookerFan

Ck147 wrote:Interesting that somebody voted to keep it and it's ranking status. Someone who has unique insights and knows better, or a fool who knows nothing?


Just somebody with a different opinion.

It would be interesting to hear their opinion though.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby Pink Ball

SnookerFan wrote:
Ck147 wrote:Interesting that somebody voted to keep it and it's ranking status. Someone who has unique insights and knows better, or a fool who knows nothing?


Just somebody with a different opinion.

It would be interesting to hear their opinion though.

I think Johnny already gave it

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SnookerFan

Pink Ball wrote:
SnookerFan wrote:
Ck147 wrote:Interesting that somebody voted to keep it and it's ranking status. Someone who has unique insights and knows better, or a fool who knows nothing?


Just somebody with a different opinion.

It would be interesting to hear their opinion though.

I think Johnny already gave it


Did he?

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SnookerEd25

I didn't vote, but I have nothing against it in general. I don't like it, so I don't watch it. I did vaguely follow the progress of the tournament through this site, as it had a bearing on the makeup of two subsequent tournaments which are important to the schedule.

My feeling is it's a bit of an embarrassment to the sport (mainly due to the puerile crowd), but it should stay in some form; certainly not a ranking event, and in my opinion not even under the WST umbrella. An independent company should take it on and open it up to all table sport professionals. That way, there might even be some American interest. It could even be interesting to see some top US pool players compete against snooker pro's & amateurs.

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby HustleKing

SnookerEd25 wrote:I didn't vote, but I have nothing against it in general. I don't like it, so I don't watch it. I did vaguely follow the progress of the tournament through this site, as it had a bearing on the makeup of two subsequent tournaments which are important to the schedule.

My feeling is it's a bit of an embarrassment to the sport (mainly due to the puerile crowd), but it should stay in some form; certainly not a ranking event, and in my opinion not even under the WST umbrella. An independent company should take it on and open it up to all table sport professionals. That way, there might even be some American interest. It could even be interesting to see some top US pool players compete against snooker pro's & amateurs.


The 9-ball commentators are always quick to point out when a pool player is a prolific (Jimmy White style!) century maker in snooker practice, so maybe some of them could compete for the entire event

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby The_Abbott

Its too darn fun to scrap but it carries far too many ranking points. A top prize of 10k is enough for 7 frames. All the top players would fail to appear but gives us a chance to see the other platers which I enjoy seeing

Re: If you could decide the future of the shootout?

Postby SteveJJ

Perhaps if the ranking points were that low, it might not just lose the top players but a fair few midranking players who were safe from relegation couldn't qualify for the coral events or weren't near the top 16.

You might end up with the bottom 64 and a few others


   

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