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Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Judd Trump
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5%
Mark Selby
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25%
John Higgins
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60%
Michael Holt
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10%
Other: please state
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Total votes : 20

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Cloud Strife » 22 Mar 2019 Read

Pink Ball wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:Is Trump still a nemesis after tonight?

Dismissing Trump after tonight is almost as brain dead as saying Sullivan would never compete with Trump again.


Dismissing him is not the same as asking if he is still a nemesis for O'Sullivan. Those are two completely different things.

I wouldn't dream of dismissing Trump. I still give him the slight edge over Ronnie in their future meetings.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Pink Ball » 22 Mar 2019 Read

Cloud Strife wrote:
Pink Ball wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:Is Trump still a nemesis after tonight?

Dismissing Trump after tonight is almost as brain dead as saying Sullivan would never compete with Trump again.


Dismissing him is not the same as asking if he is still a nemesis for O'Sullivan. Those are two completely different things.

I wouldn't dream of dismissing Trump. I still give him the slight edge over Ronnie in their future meetings.

Fair point.

Sullivan has never really had a nemesis. All his supposed nemises have an inferior head-to-head against him.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Andre147 » 22 Mar 2019 Read

On a humurous note...

If by nemesis you mean players he has an inferior h2h, then a certain Elliot Slessor comes to mind lol.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Andre147 » 22 Mar 2019 Read

On a more serious one... John Parrot was a real nemesis for him. Think he leads 8-4 in h2h, and Ronnie even described in his book he never liked playing him.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Cloud Strife » 22 Mar 2019 Read

Oh dear. This thread seems to have taken a nasty turn, sadly. I'm in two minds about asking one of the mods to close it up and chuck it in the Junkyard, never to be seen again.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby KrazeeEyezKilla » 22 Mar 2019 Read

Andre147 wrote:On a more serious one... John Parrot was a real nemesis for him. Think he leads 8-4 in h2h, and Ronnie even described in his book he never liked playing him.


Only man to beat Ronnie with a session to spare.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Cloud Strife » 22 Mar 2019 Read

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote:
Andre147 wrote:On a more serious one... John Parrot was a real nemesis for him. Think he leads 8-4 in h2h, and Ronnie even described in his book he never liked playing him.


Only man to beat Ronnie with a session to spare.


Ronnie was about 12 years old at the time.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Pedro147 » 27 Mar 2019 Read

I think it's Selby or Higgins. Higgins due to the duration of their careers but Selby has the best wins against him.

Selby beat him in a World final, a UK final and Masters final. Nobody else has done that and it's a brilliant achievement for Selby.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Andre147 » 27 Mar 2019 Read

Pedro147 wrote:I think it's Selby or Higgins. Higgins due to the duration of their careers but Selby has the best wins against him.

Selby beat him in a World final, a UK final and Masters final. Nobody else has done that and it's a brilliant achievement for Selby.


You actually make a very good point.

Higgins has the longest rivarly, but Selby has beaten him in their most important and decisive matches.

Higgins has beaten him in the others, but some of them werent finals.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby vodkadiet » 28 Mar 2019 Read

Parrott had the best record against O'Sullivan. So it would be him.

Mark King also has a decent record against O'Sullivan.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Wildey » 28 Mar 2019 Read

Pink Ball wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:Is Trump still a nemesis after tonight?

Dismissing Trump after tonight is almost as brain dead as saying Sullivan would never compete with Trump again.

yea ridicilous

Ronnie has won just 1 frame against Mark Davis this season hes shaking in his boots he wont get Davis at the Crucible

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby SnookerFan » 28 Mar 2019 Read

Wildey wrote:
Pink Ball wrote:
Cloud Strife wrote:Is Trump still a nemesis after tonight?

Dismissing Trump after tonight is almost as brain dead as saying Sullivan would never compete with Trump again.

yea ridicilous

Ronnie has won just 1 frame against Mark Davis this season hes shaking in his boots he wont get Davis at the Crucible


rofl

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby SteveJJ » 29 Mar 2019 Read

Interesting to look at the players who have a positive record against Ronnie.. Admittedly a small sample size of matches played for some of them.

Slessor leads the way after 2 wins out of 2.

But then you have Parrott with 4 wins out of 6. Which might make him a mini nemesis.

Otherwise, the others are: Snaddon, Pengfei, P Lines and Holt.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby vodkadiet » 29 Mar 2019 Read

SteveJJ wrote:Interesting to look at the players who have a positive record against Ronnie.. Admittedly a small sample size of matches played for some of them.

Slessor leads the way after 2 wins out of 2.

But then you have Parrott with 4 wins out of 6. Which might make him a mini nemesis.

Otherwise, the others are: Snaddon, Pengfei, P Lines and Holt.


Parrott was 8-4 up on O'Sullivan.

Mark King is also ahead. 5-4 in fact.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Johnny Bravo » 29 Mar 2019 Read

SteveJJ wrote:Interesting to look at the players who have a positive record against Ronnie.. Admittedly a small sample size of matches played for some of them.

Slessor leads the way after 2 wins out of 2.

But then you have Parrott with 4 wins out of 6. Which might make him a mini nemesis.

Otherwise, the others are: Snaddon, Pengfei, P Lines and Holt.


It's irrelevant whether someone has a better record against him or not, that's not what being a nemesis is about.
A nemesis is a long-standing rival, an arch-enemy. Ronnie has had rivalries with quite a few ATG's, like Hendry, Higgins, Selbo, or even Trump.
But Higgo is the one that has been his biggest rival, especially given the fact that they are both the same age. It's the same thing with Federer and Nadal. It's true that someone like Djokovic has beaten Federer in many big finals/matches in recent years, but he's also way younger, so it really isn't that relevant.

Parrott might have a great record against ROS, but it must also be mentioned which version of ROS he beat: a young kid, who was by no means the complete package when they squared off.
Higgo is the only one that has beaten prime ROS. In a way, so has Selbo, but Selbo beat him by grinding him down and annoying him, Higgo beat him just through matchplay.
So Higgo is the one.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby HappyCamper » 29 Mar 2019 Read

Do you know what "Nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible c**t... Elliot Slessor.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby Andre147 » 30 Mar 2019 Read

Of the players that have a positive h2h against him, Parrot is the one with most wins, with 8-4.

Of the players that have a negative one, the answer is of course John Higgins.

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby TheSaviour » 30 Mar 2019 Read

Or then it also might be the the "ever lasting and boring" tournament called the World Championships of snooker.

Means Mark Selby ???

Re: Who is Ronnie's biggest ever nemesis?

Postby SnookerFan » 30 Mar 2019 Read

Dan-cat wrote:
TheSaviour wrote:Or then it also might be the the "ever lasting and boring" tournament called the World Championships of snooker.

Means Mark Selby ???


BO7s in the first and second rounds?


With shot clocks. <ok>
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