by Johnny Bravo » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Cloud Strife wrote:Hendry's been on for about half an hour so far and hasn't stopped talking about Ronnie.
by Cloud Strife » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Wildey wrote:Holden Chinaski wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:This isn't about potting under pressure, it's just potting ability. Imagine if it was just practice, who could make most long pots. No way Hendry wins it.
Anyway, u don't have to take my word for it. Just watch those finals yourself. Although he also made some great shots, he missed way too many to be considered the best.
I have watched a lot of Hendry matches as I'm a huge Hendry fan. His long potting was fantastic. Who would make the most long pots in practice? How would I know? Who would pot the most long pots in a real match? I say prime Hendry.
The Island has spoken, mate. Just look at the votes. Go watch some more Hendry matches on youtube. I'm not saying Judd and Robbo aren't brilliant, but you are definitely underestimating Hendry. He almost never refused a long pot in his prime, and look how many titles he's won.
yea thats the telling thing He hardly ever refused any pot in his prime and he was succesfull playing that way against players that would tie him up in Knotts if he missed.
Had he played a bit more conservative in latter career he would have won far more No disrespect to Ken Doherty but had Hendry played within himself in 1997 Ken Would not have won that title Stephen was far too interested in winning frames in one visit off a long pot than scrap the match out.
Johnny Bravo wrote:Iranu wrote:How do you know? How many of them have you seen practising?
You seem very sure about something that’s based on your imagination.
I've seen countless Hendry matches, he's by no means a better long potter as far as I'm concerned. Why is that so hard to understand ?!
Hendry was superior to Robbo and Trump in some aspects of the game, but long potting wasn't one of them.
by Cloud Strife » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Johnny Bravo wrote:Cloud Strife wrote:Hendry's been on for about half an hour so far and hasn't stopped talking about Ronnie.
Do u have a link ?
by Johnny Bravo » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Iranu wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Iranu wrote:How do you know? How many of them have you seen practising?
You seem very sure about something that’s based on your imagination.
I've seen countless Hendry matches, he's by no means a better long potter as far as I'm concerned. Why is that so hard to understand ?!
Hendry was superior to Robbo and Trump in some aspects of the game, but long potting wasn't one of them.
But you’re talking about practise. You have no idea how good he was in practise.
by Cloud Strife » 29 Mar 2019 Read
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by Johnny Bravo » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Cloud Strife wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Cloud Strife wrote:Hendry's been on for about half an hour so far and hasn't stopped talking about Ronnie.
Do u have a link ?
https://talksport.com/radio/schedule/2019-03-28/
He was on the Andy Goldstein Sports Bar yesterday at 10pm. Click on Listen Again button.
by Johnny Bravo » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Dan-cat wrote:!2 members of this forum think Hendry was the greatest long potter.
Johnny Bravo wrote:Iranu wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Iranu wrote:How do you know? How many of them have you seen practising?
You seem very sure about something that’s based on your imagination.
I've seen countless Hendry matches, he's by no means a better long potter as far as I'm concerned. Why is that so hard to understand ?!
Hendry was superior to Robbo and Trump in some aspects of the game, but long potting wasn't one of them.
But you’re talking about practise. You have no idea how good he was in practise.
I said "imagine it was practice", I didn't mean actual practice. My point was about potting ability, but not when there's a huge amount of pressure on making the shot. I based my conclusion on the matches I've seen of all top players.
by Andre147 » 29 Mar 2019 Read
by Cloud Strife » 29 Mar 2019 Read
Andre147 wrote:Fair play you Johhny for sticking to your convinctions... all of us have thrown countless arguments as to why we think Hendry was the greatest long potter, but you dont buy any of that lol...
I say Hendry and have seen many matches from him.
On a side note, I agree with Cloud... Hendry was simply outplayed. And if Hendry-fans use that excuse for his 1997 and 2002 losses, I could also make a case that Ronnie lost the 2014 Final because after a while he wasnt interested in safety play. If he were, he would have won.
But I believe Selby was superior and took advantage of Ronnie's frustration with tactical play.
Andre147 wrote:Fair play you Johhny for sticking to your convinctions... all of us have thrown countless arguments as to why we think Hendry was the greatest long potter, but you dont buy any of that lol...
I say Hendry and have seen many matches from him.
On a side note, I agree with Cloud... Hendry was simply outplayed. And if Hendry-fans use that excuse for his 1997 and 2002 losses, I could also make a case that Ronnie lost the 2014 Final because after a while he wasnt interested in safety play. If he were, he would have won.
But I believe Selby was superior and took advantage of Ronnie's frustration with tactical play.
Johnny Bravo wrote:Wildey wrote:Andre147 wrote:Lol Johnny if this is about practice then the winner is obviously Jimmy White!
If you ask about who's the greatest long potter, you cant dismiss things like pressure, etc.
Guys you got to be honest some of the things Johnny Bravo has said on here makes him out to be a fool
Since when is potting in practice ore important than under pressure
It's not about which is more important, my poll was simply about long potting ability, not who's more likely to make one under pressure. Of course someone like Trump is more likely to crumble under pressure than Hendry was. But Hendry is not capable of pulling off the same shots as Trump.
Cloud Strife wrote:Wildey wrote:Holden Chinaski wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:This isn't about potting under pressure, it's just potting ability. Imagine if it was just practice, who could make most long pots. No way Hendry wins it.
Anyway, u don't have to take my word for it. Just watch those finals yourself. Although he also made some great shots, he missed way too many to be considered the best.
I have watched a lot of Hendry matches as I'm a huge Hendry fan. His long potting was fantastic. Who would make the most long pots in practice? How would I know? Who would pot the most long pots in a real match? I say prime Hendry.
The Island has spoken, mate. Just look at the votes. Go watch some more Hendry matches on youtube. I'm not saying Judd and Robbo aren't brilliant, but you are definitely underestimating Hendry. He almost never refused a long pot in his prime, and look how many titles he's won.
yea thats the telling thing He hardly ever refused any pot in his prime and he was succesfull playing that way against players that would tie him up in Knotts if he missed.
Had he played a bit more conservative in latter career he would have won far more No disrespect to Ken Doherty but had Hendry played within himself in 1997 Ken Would not have won that title Stephen was far too interested in winning frames in one visit off a long pot than scrap the match out.
Sick and tired of this excuse constantly being trotted out by Hendry fans. It's similar to the one they also use for his loss to Ebdon in 2002, where apparently Hendry took Ebdon too lightly and if he had played properly he would have won 18-2 or something.
It's like the classic "Ronnie only loses when he's not focussed or his head wasn't right" excuse.
by Pink Ball » 30 Mar 2019 Read
Pink Ball wrote:I agree with Wild. But at the end of the day, that can’t be used as a defense of Hendry. It was a flaw of his. It’s a huge part of why he is no longer considered the greatest player of all time. Snooker is about thinking clearly and making the right decisions. Something he couldn’t do. And when the opposition got stronger, he couldn’t cope.
He is definitely the greatest long potter of all time though.
by Pink Ball » 31 Mar 2019 Read
Wildey wrote:Pink Ball wrote:I agree with Wild. But at the end of the day, that can’t be used as a defense of Hendry. It was a flaw of his. It’s a huge part of why he is no longer considered the greatest player of all time. Snooker is about thinking clearly and making the right decisions. Something he couldn’t do. And when the opposition got stronger, he couldn’t cope.
He is definitely the greatest long potter of all time though.
Absalutly no defence I'm not saying Ken couldn't have adapted and still win we will never know but all he was doing was feeding off some reckless missed pots. Hendry did not want the break to stop no matter what which was bad and I was tearing my hair out at what I was seeing.
by Cloud Strife » 31 Mar 2019 Read
Wildey wrote:Pink Ball wrote:I agree with Wild. But at the end of the day, that can’t be used as a defense of Hendry. It was a flaw of his. It’s a huge part of why he is no longer considered the greatest player of all time. Snooker is about thinking clearly and making the right decisions. Something he couldn’t do. And when the opposition got stronger, he couldn’t cope.
He is definitely the greatest long potter of all time though.
Absalutly no defence I'm not saying Ken couldn't have adapted and still win we will never know but all he was doing was feeding off some reckless missed pots. Hendry did not want the break to stop no matter what which was bad and I was tearing my hair out at what I was seeing.
by Andre147 » 31 Mar 2019 Read
by TheRocket » 31 Mar 2019 Read
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TheRocket wrote:Its not that match against Doherty which will haunt Hendry. Its the final against Ebdon in 2002 which was a big body blow to him and maybe one reason (not the only one) for his rapid decline. He never recovered from that defeat.
It could have been the perfect career end for Hendry had he won that match. I'm pretty sure he thought there was no way he was gonna lose the match. That combined with the fact that Ebdon probably played his best match ever caused that very painful defeat in the end.
by Johnny Bravo » 31 Mar 2019 Read
Andre147 wrote:Fair play you Johhny for sticking to your convinctions... all of us have thrown countless arguments as to why we think Hendry was the greatest long potter, but you dont buy any of that lol...
Johnny Bravo wrote:Andre147 wrote:Fair play you Johhny for sticking to your convinctions... all of us have thrown countless arguments as to why we think Hendry was the greatest long potter, but you dont buy any of that lol...
Of course I don't, I've watched the man play. And not just on youtube, but in real life, when I was a kid. It was on TV of course, but I saw him nonetheless.
Was he a great long potter ? Hell yes, among the best ever.
Was he the best ever ? Hell no.
by Pink Ball » 31 Mar 2019 Read
by Cloud Strife » 31 Mar 2019 Read
Johnny Bravo wrote:Andre147 wrote:Fair play you Johhny for sticking to your convinctions... all of us have thrown countless arguments as to why we think Hendry was the greatest long potter, but you dont buy any of that lol...
Of course I don't, I've watched the man play. And not just on youtube, but in real life, when I was a kid. It was on TV of course, but I saw him nonetheless.
Was he a great long potter ? Hell yes, among the best ever.
Was he the best ever ? Hell no.
by Pink Ball » 31 Mar 2019 Read
Cloud Strife wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Andre147 wrote:Fair play you Johhny for sticking to your convinctions... all of us have thrown countless arguments as to why we think Hendry was the greatest long potter, but you dont buy any of that lol...
Of course I don't, I've watched the man play. And not just on youtube, but in real life, when I was a kid. It was on TV of course, but I saw him nonetheless.
Was he a great long potter ? Hell yes, among the best ever.
Was he the best ever ? Hell no.
I don't get this snobbery regarding YouTube. I mean, why is that? Does YouTube only upload snooker videos from an alternate reality where matches differ from those broadcast on live television? I just don't understand it.
