peak Hendry vs peak Selby

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Cloud Strife wrote:According to some, Hendry didn't miss a pot between the years 1990 and 1995, whilst Selby hasn't played a bad safety shot since the old king died. An epic matchup for sure.

Just watched the last few frames of the Mercantile Classic final in 1992 between a prime Hendry and a slightly passed his prime Davis.
Hendry used to miss quite a few and some were very easy balls.
In the past few days I've watched many classic matches from the 90's.

I don't like Selbo, but I must say I've reconsidered my initial opinion on the matter. Selbo wins. Hendry simply doesn't have the all round game to compete with him.
And if we are assessing prime vs prime, I'd also say that the likes of Robertson and Ding also edge Hendry.
Hendry would have an even match with Trump.
Ronnie demolishes Hendry.

Pink Ball wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Cloud Strife wrote:According to some, Hendry didn't miss a pot between the years 1990 and 1995, whilst Selby hasn't played a bad safety shot since the old king died. An epic matchup for sure.

Just watched the last few frames of the Mercantile Classic final in 1992 between a prime Hendry and a slightly passed his prime Davis.
Hendry used to miss quite a few and some were very easy balls.
In the past few days I've watched many classic matches from the 90's.

I don't like Selbo, but I must say I've reconsidered my initial opinion on the matter. Selbo wins. Hendry simply doesn't have the all round game to compete with him.
And if we are assessing prime vs prime, I'd also say that the likes of Robertson and Ding also edge Hendry.
Hendry would have an even match with Trump.
Ronnie demolishes Hendry.

What a load of rubbish

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Cloud Strife wrote:According to some, Hendry didn't miss a pot between the years 1990 and 1995, whilst Selby hasn't played a bad safety shot since the old king died. An epic matchup for sure.

Just watched the last few frames of the Mercantile Classic final in 1992 between a prime Hendry and a slightly passed his prime Davis.
Hendry used to miss quite a few and some were very easy balls.
In the past few days I've watched many classic matches from the 90's.

I don't like Selbo, but I must say I've reconsidered my initial opinion on the matter. Selbo wins. Hendry simply doesn't have the all round game to compete with him.
And if we are assessing prime vs prime, I'd also say that the likes of Robertson and Ding also edge Hendry.
Hendry would have an even match with Trump.
Ronnie demolishes Hendry.

What a load of rubbish

Listen Pinkey, Hendry was a pioneer of the attacking game and a great breakbuilder, BUT: you have to get in order to score. I simply think Hendry wouldn't get enough chances to score due to being totally outclassed in the safety department.

Pink Ball wrote:
By the way, peak Hendry did play peak O'Sullivan in 1999. Hendry wasn't destroyed. Actually, he won.

Pink Ball wrote:Listen Johnny, lots of players were superior safety players to Hendry. Steve Davis was as good as anyone in the safety department, even well into his decline. Hendry still beat him most of the time. Same with everyone else

Andre147 wrote:But even Hendry competed with great safety players: Davis, Thorburn, McManus, Doherty.

And he more often than not won the most meetings by simply potting his way out of trouble from seemingly safe positions.

So safe to say Selby's safety game wouldn't be anough to put Hendry in trouble because he would pot most of them.

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:
By the way, peak Hendry did play peak O'Sullivan in 1999. Hendry wasn't destroyed. Actually, he won.

Ronnie was not at his peak in 1999. From a breakbuilding point of view, maybe. But he didn't quite have the all round game then. Not to mention the fact that he was a lot weaker from a mental point of view compared to nowadays.

SnookerFan wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:
By the way, peak Hendry did play peak O'Sullivan in 1999. Hendry wasn't destroyed. Actually, he won.

Ronnie was not at his peak in 1999. From a breakbuilding point of view, maybe. But he didn't quite have the all round game then. Not to mention the fact that he was a lot weaker from a mental point of view compared to nowadays.

Simply out of curiousity, when do you consider Ronnie's peak?

I reckon about 2004-2006, maybe.

Andre147 wrote:

SnookerFan wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:
By the way, peak Hendry did play peak O'Sullivan in 1999. Hendry wasn't destroyed. Actually, he won.

Ronnie was not at his peak in 1999. From a breakbuilding point of view, maybe. But he didn't quite have the all round game then. Not to mention the fact that he was a lot weaker from a mental point of view compared to nowadays.

Simply out of curiousity, when do you consider Ronnie's peak?

I reckon about 2004-2006, maybe.

Definately not 2006. Thats when his long game went AWOL.

It's definately between 2001-2005, won 2 World Titles, lots of others titles as well and destroyed most of his great rivals on a regular basis.

SnookerFan wrote:

Andre147 wrote:But even Hendry competed with great safety players: Davis, Thorburn, McManus, Doherty.

And he more often than not won the most meetings by simply potting his way out of trouble from seemingly safe positions.

So safe to say Selby's safety game wouldn't be anough to put Hendry in trouble because he would pot most of them.

Like McManus is in Selby's class.

I'd dispute Doherty, as well.

Johnny Bravo wrote:This would be quite an interesting match.
IMO many overrate Hendry's mental toughness. During the 1992-1996 era, he was the best and he knew that. IMO that's the reason he seemed to cope with pressure so good. To put this into perspective: I have a friend that I play every weekend. I give him a 3-0 lead and we play first to 7 frames. Even if he somehow manages to get in front I'm not worried. That's because I know that if I play my best, he can't win. The same happened to Hendry.

Now back on topic. I think everyone will agree that Hendry is miles ahead of Selbo when it comes to scoring power. So based on this stat, he should win quite comfortably. However, given the fact that Selbo is miles ahead of Hendry in terms of safety and tactical play, will Hendry get enough opportunities to score ???
IMO the answer to this question will determine the winner.

My 2 cents: Hendry wins 60% of the time.

sas6789 wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:This would be quite an interesting match.
IMO many overrate Hendry's mental toughness. During the 1992-1996 era, he was the best and he knew that. IMO that's the reason he seemed to cope with pressure so good. To put this into perspective: I have a friend that I play every weekend. I give him a 3-0 lead and we play first to 7 frames. Even if he somehow manages to get in front I'm not worried. That's because I know that if I play my best, he can't win. The same happened to Hendry.

Now back on topic. I think everyone will agree that Hendry is miles ahead of Selbo when it comes to scoring power. So based on this stat, he should win quite comfortably. However, given the fact that Selbo is miles ahead of Hendry in terms of safety and tactical play, will Hendry get enough opportunities to score ???
IMO the answer to this question will determine the winner.

My 2 cents: Hendry wins 60% of the time.

You know absoulty f**k all about snooker, stick to netball son.

Badsnookerplayer wrote:Sorry, I thought we had moved on to netball.buck knows who would have won at snooker.

Holden Chinaski wrote:Stephen Hendry in his prime, in his absolute prime... would dominate in any era. He was too strong. Mentally he was the strongest ever. His long potting was out of this world. Break building was pure genius. And as much as people on here pretend he didn't have a safety game, he could play some great safety when he wanted to.

Cloud Strife wrote:Hendry would have dominated any era....apart from the ones that he didn't dominate haha.

sas6789 wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:This would be quite an interesting match.
IMO many overrate Hendry's mental toughness. During the 1992-1996 era, he was the best and he knew that. IMO that's the reason he seemed to cope with pressure so good. To put this into perspective: I have a friend that I play every weekend. I give him a 3-0 lead and we play first to 7 frames. Even if he somehow manages to get in front I'm not worried. That's because I know that if I play my best, he can't win. The same happened to Hendry.

Now back on topic. I think everyone will agree that Hendry is miles ahead of Selbo when it comes to scoring power. So based on this stat, he should win quite comfortably. However, given the fact that Selbo is miles ahead of Hendry in terms of safety and tactical play, will Hendry get enough opportunities to score ???
IMO the answer to this question will determine the winner.

My 2 cents: Hendry wins 60% of the time.

You know absoulty f**k all about snooker, stick to netball son.

Holden Chinaski wrote:

Badsnookerplayer wrote:Sorry, I thought we had moved on to netball.buck knows who would have won at snooker.

Petre Ebdon is the netball GOAT. Everybody knows that.

Cloud Strife wrote:

Holden Chinaski wrote:Stephen Hendry in his prime, in his absolute prime... would dominate in any era. He was too strong. Mentally he was the strongest ever. His long potting was out of this world. Break building was pure genius. And as much as people on here pretend he didn't have a safety game, he could play some great safety when he wanted to.

What compete and utter nonsense lol.

I don't know how you've managed to sit there and post this claptrap with a straight face.

Dan-cat wrote:

Cloud Strife wrote:

Holden Chinaski wrote:Stephen Hendry in his prime, in his absolute prime... would dominate in any era. He was too strong. Mentally he was the strongest ever. His long potting was out of this world. Break building was pure genius. And as much as people on here pretend he didn't have a safety game, he could play some great safety when he wanted to.

What compete and utter nonsense lol.

I don't know how you've managed to sit there and post this claptrap with a straight face.

I’m with Holden on this one. I was there during the 90s and Hendry was a break-building machine. It became monotomous watching him win. I randomly watched one frame of him recently and here’s the news. He played 3 brilliant safety shots. He got in and cleared up. His positional play was absolutely exquisite. Go and watch him Cloudy.

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Pink Ball wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:

Cloud Strife wrote:According to some, Hendry didn't miss a pot between the years 1990 and 1995, whilst Selby hasn't played a bad safety shot since the old king died. An epic matchup for sure.

Just watched the last few frames of the Mercantile Classic final in 1992 between a prime Hendry and a slightly passed his prime Davis.
Hendry used to miss quite a few and some were very easy balls.
In the past few days I've watched many classic matches from the 90's.

I don't like Selbo, but I must say I've reconsidered my initial opinion on the matter. Selbo wins. Hendry simply doesn't have the all round game to compete with him.
And if we are assessing prime vs prime, I'd also say that the likes of Robertson and Ding also edge Hendry.
Hendry would have an even match with Trump.
Ronnie demolishes Hendry.

What a load of rubbish

Listen Pinkey, Hendry was a pioneer of the attacking game and a great breakbuilder, BUT: you have to get in order to score. I simply think Hendry wouldn't get enough chances to score due to being totally outclassed in the safety department.

Pink Ball wrote:Hendry was an awesome player. Was he up against much? Not really. Do I think the Hendry of 1988-1997 would have been World Champion in any era? Yes, a multiple world champion. Would he have been the best of any era he played? Not quite, because I don't think he was as good as Sullivan.

Brilliant breakbuilder and potter, bang average safety and tactical player.