hendry_fan wrote:Johnny Bravo wrote:Pink Ball wrote:It seems inevitable that he'll soon level with and then overtake Hendry. I already feel he's the best I've ever seen, but would it put him first in other people's minds too?
I feel the same way, but a lot of snooker fans won't agree with us unless he wins another world title.
It would be incredible if he did, but he'll still be my hero even if he doesn't.
I've said this before, Hendry only won 7 because he played in a weaker era. Not to mention the fact that Jimmy squandered 2 incredible opportunities. Had he taken his chances in 92 and 94, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
I,m just gonna write a wee bit to this,as we,ve been through this X Times and i,m tired of it tbh.
The 90,s was not a weak era!.
If you think that,then,it,s your opinion,to try n label it WEAK,is just pure ingnorance and very disrepectful.
Sure,they,re were tons of matches in which the standard was weak,weakish,but there were also tons of matches which had a high,very high standard,you had,have that in every era.
Just cause many players did,nt knock in as many tons,BIG breaks in the 90,s as are made eg in the 00,s,or these days,does,nt mean to say that they were rubbish,weak.
Hendry made them look weak,they often did,nt even get many chances to try n knock one in in the first place,cause he time n time n time n time again steamrolled them,and often when they got the chance,they were so nervous,scared of him,it made them often play weak against him,they knew full well just how great,deadly he was.
One could say try n devalue many of Ronnies wins due to his oppenents playing rubbish,weak against him,chockein,bottlin frame,even match balls against him,i,ve lost count of the number of times that thats happened,often the standard many players played against Ronnie was weak,even amateur like,even many of the better/higher ranked players have delivere horses**t against him,
Look at Mark Williams eg,he,s one hell of a player when on song,without a doubt in the top 5 greatest of all time,but often,especially in the last 10+ years,he often played weak against Ron,even when Ronnie was there for the taking.
Carter is a very good player when on song,but he,s another who often plays drivvel when he plays Ron.
The BIG 5,Davis,Hendry,Higgins,Ron and Williams often won matches even when they were miles off there best,bcause they,re opponents suffered the FEAR FACTOR and thus often played much weaker against them than what they were/are capable of,than they would have played against other players,everyone knows just how GREAT this lot were/are.
To win any tournament,no matter what era it is in,takes some doing and should be respected,it takes more than 1,2 matches to win a tourney,one might get away with 1,2 matches,but otherwise you,ve got to deliver.
One could also try n devalue all the other players wins,due to they,re opponent not being on song,due to the run of the ball,a lucky cannon,flick here n there,even a fluke could have a BIG influence in a match,.
One could try and devalue eg,Shaun Murphys 2005 Worlds win,one could argue,had he,d of played a prime Hendry,Ronnie,Williams in the final,or even a round,few rounds bfore that,he,d of probably of never of won it,but he won it,end of!.
I did,nt delibertly pick out that eg tbh,it just sprung to my mind,thats one of countless examples.
One could even try n devalue Mark Kings recent win,cause he caught his opponents,or an opponent off song,or had he of faced other opponents,especially in there prime,it,d be highly unlikley that he would of won it,Ronnie did,nt even take part,now should one devlaue that win,Mark King won it,basta.
You can only beat who,s in front of you!.
I personally still think that Hendry is the GREATEST EVER,i wrote a few years ago,that Ronnie has a good chance of claming that,but he,s not quite there yet,as he still has not only the World crowns to catch up on,but the total ranking title tally as well.
Not only that,but look at how many finals Hendry also made,........
Ranking event finals: 57 (36 titles, 21 runners-up)
Ronnie still has time to catch up,or even beat that,but he,s still got quite a bit to go,....
Ranking event finals: 42 (28 titles, 14 runners-up)
Hendry has the most important of record of them all,7 WORLD CROWNS,2 WORLD TITLES more than Ronnie,he also has 8 RANKING TITLES more,he,s been in 15 RANKING FINALS more and he,s been in 9 WORLDS FINALS,to Rons 6.
Just bcause there was,nt as many tons,BIG breaks made as they,re were made in the 90,s,even 00,s,it does,nt mean to say that the players were rubbish,many players played a bit more safe than to rather go for almost everything,i,m sure many players could compete with the current crop,the players of the 90,s were not weak,sure,there were a few,but they,re are a good few these days,just like they,re was in other eras.
Some ramble on about how high the standard is these days,i,ll say it again,yeah,there are some mstches of very high standard,but i,ve seen many in which there was nuthin special,the way some ramble on,it,s as if every match goes through the roof standard wise,the players hardly run outta pos,they hardly miss a pot,the safety is always up to scratch and many players like to blame the high standard if they lose,the truth is,most of the players just are,nt good enough consistent wise,but,yeah,they can always come up with the so called the standards so high these days drivvel as an excuse when they lose.
No doubt about it,the standard of the lower ranked players/the strength in depth has risen,but the consistency of those players is weak,as if Hendry would,nt have beaten them,they,re lucky there is,nt a prime Hendry arounbd these days,then they would have sometzhing to complain about.
I,m certainly not gonna boss,try n boss people into agreeing with my opininons,everyone is of course free to have there,s,but i personally think it is very weak to even try n suggest that the 90,s were weak and to devalue Hendrys wins,achievements,as i say,one could try n do that with all the rest of the crop.
Thats all i,m gonna,want to say on the matter,it,s been talked about nuuuuuumerous times bfore,i,ve said my bit a good few times on the subject,for me,Hendry is still the GREATEST,Ronnies getting closer to grabbing that away from him,but for me personally,he,s not there yet.
I could add a few more things,but that,ll do,i,ve had enough of havin to write the same stuff i,ve already written a good few times.
Thats all for me for the mom,catch ya all at the German MASTERS.
*PEACE*.
