by PLtheRef » 22 Jan 2014 Read
edwards2000 wrote:Because of the change in the number of frames played over the years, this stat is almost meaningless. Century rates provide the best evidence of break-building prowess, and the last time I looked it was Ding and Ronnie who headed that. The best century total statistic is that of the 3 Majors. Guess who tops that? Ronnie at the Masters and WC, and Hendry at the UK.
Inflating a century count will do nothing to improve Robertson's standing in the game. It just illustrates that we have far too many events on tour (many of them tinpot like this one, sadly). Why don't people like Dave Hendon and Taylor understand this?
How is it meaningless? Recent years has seen players playing the same formats. Apart from the Champion of Champions there's nothing new on the tour and he is well clear of the previous mark, as well as being unable to be caught this season in century tally
Never thought it'd happen, but you've got to fancy Robertson to make the 100 centuries now. Three and a half months left of the season to make 26 centuries with what has so far been an average of 11 a month
Would it not be ironic if he ended up on 99
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by GJ » 22 Jan 2014 Read
PLtheRef wrote:edwards2000 wrote:Because of the change in the number of frames played over the years, this stat is almost meaningless. Century rates provide the best evidence of break-building prowess, and the last time I looked it was Ding and Ronnie who headed that. The best century total statistic is that of the 3 Majors. Guess who tops that? Ronnie at the Masters and WC, and Hendry at the UK.
Inflating a century count will do nothing to improve Robertson's standing in the game. It just illustrates that we have far too many events on tour (many of them tinpot like this one, sadly). Why don't people like Dave Hendon and Taylor understand this?
How is it meaningless? Recent years has seen players playing the same formats. Apart from the Champion of Champions there's nothing new on the tour and he is well clear of the previous mark, as well as being unable to be caught this season in century tally
Never thought it'd happen, but you've got to fancy Robertson to make the 100 centuries now. Three and a half months left of the season to make 26 centuries with what has so far been an average of 11 a month
Would it not be ironic if he ended up on 99
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You would think robbo was playing lots of other events that no other players were allowed to enter
The lengths some go to bash robbo never surprises me
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by Wildey » 23 Jan 2014 Read
GJ wrote:Wildey wrote:Snooker Overdrive wrote:SnookerFan wrote:Andre147 PGC wrote:Of course if he keeps playing in the tin pot CL Group after Group the 100 tons is inevitable...
Although his scoring has been tremendous so I think he deserves to reach 100 tons, a shame some of them have to be on CL but anyway...
It's a shame this tournament exists really.
Absolutely.
But I also don't understand why Robbo keeps playing in them. Does he want to be burned out and flat again in the Crucible? All he's doing is massively inflating the century record books.
I Dont understand the concept of these Events at all.
Robbo has given the Shootout a miss though and i Guess he will miss the World Open too. but in january there's not much snooker played apart from this rubbish so burn out is never going to be a issue with these events.
robbo won his world open 128 match so that doesnt suggest he will skip it
Good point lol
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by SnookerFan » 23 Jan 2014 Read
TWITTER ATTACK!
David Hendon @davehendon Robertson century no.75 #Robbowatch
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by Roland » 23 Jan 2014 Read
He's now up to 77. Question is will he do a tactical and lose out so he can play another group and get that figure even higher?
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by SnookerFan » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Match fixing allegations.
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by Roland » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Well he's currently 2-0 down to Maguire so it looks like it.
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by GJ » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Robbo
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by Wildey » 23 Jan 2014 Read
SnookerFan wrote:Match fixing allegations.
Thats exactly why this format is wrong and honest to god i cant believe as Chairman of World Snooker that Barry Hearn is letting the sport integrity get in to Question by this Tournament on the back of the Stephen Lee fiasco.
it doesn't matter if player throw matches or not it just looks bad.
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by Andy Spark » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Come the World's he'll make 100 centuries in the season and be knocked out in the quarter final, then he'll complain of being burnt out.
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by edwards2000 » 23 Jan 2014 Read
In fact, as I see it, making this many centuries is a sad indictment on the game (despite the fact Robbo is entering every tin-pot going). Snooker should be more challenging for something of this nature. It's gotten so mundane from the early 90s onwards to see century after century. Hendry and Ronnie (and others like Robbo) make a case for much thicker cloths being used. Snooker is insanely difficult, but for the pros it's become walk in the park to break-build along with the fact the standard now is superior.
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by Roland » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Yeah I know, even I knock in 10 centuries a week on those Star tables but struggle to get a 50 on the club tables.
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by Roland » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Andy Spark wrote:Come the World's he'll make 100 centuries in the season and be knocked out in the quarter final, then he'll complain of being burnt out.
I can see the first two happening. I also think Robbo is fully aware of the century record is going to spend the rest of this season going all out for as many as he can get and try to get to that 100 mark.
I think it does make a bit of joke counting CL matches in any stats, head to heads or centuries, as it's basically glorified practice sessions.
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by Skullman » 23 Jan 2014 Read
edwards2000 wrote:In fact, as I see it, making this many centuries is a sad indictment on the game (despite the fact Robbo is entering every tin-pot going). Snooker should be more challenging for something of this nature. It's gotten so mundane from the early 90s onwards to see century after century. Hendry and Ronnie (and others like Robbo) make a case for much thicker cloths being used. Snooker is insanely difficult, but for the pros it's become walk in the park to break-build along with the fact the standard now is superior.
I thought the part of the point of professional sport was to watch the best players in the world compete. I don't see how making conditions more difficult would help that. Maybe we should just keep the conditions the same and instead prevent all the pros from playing and only allow club players instead?
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by edwards2000 » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Sonny wrote:Andy Spark wrote:Come the World's he'll make 100 centuries in the season and be knocked out in the quarter final, then he'll complain of being burnt out.
I can see the first two happening. I also think Robbo is fully aware of the century record is going to spend the rest of this season going all out for as many as he can get and try to get to that 100 mark.
I think it does make a bit of joke counting CL matches in any stats, head to heads or centuries, as it's basically glorified practice sessions.
That's why I look to the World Champs as the benchmark. As long as Barry doesn't make it a flat 128 draw, the stats will stay fair. Same as they have with the Masters (well, mostly).
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by Wildey » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Skullman wrote:edwards2000 wrote:In fact, as I see it, making this many centuries is a sad indictment on the game (despite the fact Robbo is entering every tin-pot going). Snooker should be more challenging for something of this nature. It's gotten so mundane from the early 90s onwards to see century after century. Hendry and Ronnie (and others like Robbo) make a case for much thicker cloths being used. Snooker is insanely difficult, but for the pros it's become walk in the park to break-build along with the fact the standard now is superior.
I thought the part of the point of professional sport was to watch the best players in the world compete. I don't see how making conditions more difficult would help that. Maybe we should just keep the conditions the same and instead prevent all the pros from playing and only allow club players instead?
The Best players would knock in centuries on a Carpet thick cloth.
i think making cloths thicker would help with eradicating Kicks a bit but i dont understand this Rubbish about some fans almost worried that Century records will get Blown out of the Water.......it doesn't matter one jot
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by edwards2000 » 23 Jan 2014 Read
Wildey wrote:Skullman wrote:edwards2000 wrote:In fact, as I see it, making this many centuries is a sad indictment on the game (despite the fact Robbo is entering every tin-pot going). Snooker should be more challenging for something of this nature. It's gotten so mundane from the early 90s onwards to see century after century. Hendry and Ronnie (and others like Robbo) make a case for much thicker cloths being used. Snooker is insanely difficult, but for the pros it's become walk in the park to break-build along with the fact the standard now is superior.
I thought the part of the point of professional sport was to watch the best players in the world compete. I don't see how making conditions more difficult would help that. Maybe we should just keep the conditions the same and instead prevent all the pros from playing and only allow club players instead?
The Best players would knock in centuries on a Carpet thick cloth.
i think making cloths thicker would help with eradicating Kicks a bit but i dont understand this Rubbish about some fans almost worried that Century records will get Blown out of the Water.......it doesn't matter one jot
I would wager that they would have a bigger effect than that. I didn't say it would stop centuries. I also think heavier balls need to return.
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by Ayrshirebhoy » 24 Jan 2014 Read
To stop any doubt I think if Robbo gets the 100 he needs to get record amount of tons in the wc as well. Would stop any talk about tinpot tourneys.
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by Casey » 25 Jan 2014 Read
With the number of tournaments these days, we will see players making 1000 ton's over the course of their career.
Ding might be the first to do it...
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by SnookerFan » 25 Jan 2014 Read
Wildey wrote:Thats exactly why this format is wrong and honest to god i cant believe as Chairman of World Snooker that Barry Hearn is letting the sport integrity get in to Question by this Tournament on the back of the Stephen Lee fiasco.
it doesn't matter if player throw matches or not it just looks bad.
He probably thinks that most fans have no idea this tournament exists.
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by Cloud Strife » 30 Jan 2014 Read
It will be a great feat if he can achieve it, though I think in future seasons getting a hundred centuries will be the norm for the top players.
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by Skullman » 30 Jan 2014 Read
Well 2011/12 and 2012/3 were just as busy as this season and the most other players could muster was 61. I think if Robbo manages it, it will be replicated but not for another few years by another player.
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by Andre147 » 31 Jan 2014 Read
Skullman wrote:Well 2011/12 and 2012/3 were just as busy as this season and the most other players could muster was 61. I think if Robbo manages it, it will be replicated but not for another few years by another player.
Yeah, take nothing away from Robbo's superb scoring this season, the closest so far is Ding on 40, but they should get rid of this CL crap tourney, it just doesn't make sense anymore and much of that money could be used to increase the prize money of other events.
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by Andre147 » 02 Feb 2014 Read
Ronnie full of praise for Robbo's tons tally this season:
"It is fantastic really, it is insane what Neil is doing this season on the century breaks. It is probably the most phenomenal scoring in the history of the game.”
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/other- ... O-Sullivan
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by GJ » 02 Feb 2014 Read
Andre147 PGC wrote:Ronnie full of praise for Robbo's tons tally this season:
"It is fantastic really, it is insane what Neil is doing this season on the century breaks. It is probably the most phenomenal scoring in the history of the game.”
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/other- ... O-Sullivan
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by Muppet147 » 02 Feb 2014 Read
GJ wrote:Andre147 PGC wrote:Ronnie full of praise for Robbo's tons tally this season:
"It is fantastic really, it is insane what Neil is doing this season on the century breaks. It is probably the most phenomenal scoring in the history of the game.”
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/other- ... O-Sullivan
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Bit patronising really. But I suppose Ronnie can afford to throw Robbo a few compliments - after the serious beatings he has dished out to him.
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by SnookerFan » 03 Feb 2014 Read
Muppet147 wrote:Bit patronising really. But I suppose Ronnie can afford to throw Robbo a few compliments - after the serious beatings he has dished out to him.
Yes, because Robertson has never beaten Ronnie.
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by jojo » 27 Mar 2014 Read
how many more he need ? if he need under twenty more he can do it if he have a strong run in the world championship however he will need to play the match situation first and not let the century target be at the front of his mind otherwise i can see him lose some frames from sixty odd up looking for the century and pushing the boat up
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