PLAYERS WORK SCHEDULE - 2011

Eirebilly wrote:Disagree. What Witz is trying to do is dumb this down so that the players look extremely spoilt. I would hazard a rough guess that the top players put in more than the average working mans 40 hour working week into practice and developing their skill. The practice that they do is every bit as important as the traveling and participating in events. I find it absolutely silly to think that a snooker player only 'works' around 70 days per year. That is what is being implied in the article. I say again, i dont believe that there are too many tournements in a year now but it should not be dumbed down to such low levels as if a player only works 70 odd days a year. Thats just ridiculous.

Bourne, not sure how much travelling you have done in your life professionally but personally i am away from home for over 6 months every year traveling all around the world. If you think that traveling for work is only sitting and maybe sleeping then i fear for you if you ever have to travel to other countries for work as its not as easy as you would think. Some people hink that its all great traveling for work and staying in hotels, and it is for the first 6 months, after that you miss sleeping in your own bed, having a normal life where you can visit your friends and having a normal 40 hour week work.

Wild wrote:nobody making out thats easy least of all me ive flown once in my life and id hate that lifestyle however its part of being a sport star not exclusively to snooker players if you dont like it dont do it either play in home events or retire from the sport but the sport cant pander to that if it wants to grow,get better and make more money.

Eirebilly wrote:

Wild wrote:nobody making out thats easy least of all me ive flown once in my life and id hate that lifestyle however its part of being a sport star not exclusively to snooker players if you dont like it dont do it either play in home events or retire from the sport but the sport cant pander to that if it wants to grow,get better and make more money.

You have missed the point wild. I am not saying that players are complaining about it, i am instead replying to Bourne assuming that its all easy and just a simple doze off.

Eirebilly wrote:

Wild wrote:nobody making out thats easy least of all me ive flown once in my life and id hate that lifestyle however its part of being a sport star not exclusively to snooker players if you dont like it dont do it either play in home events or retire from the sport but the sport cant pander to that if it wants to grow,get better and make more money.

You have missed the point wild. I am not saying that players are complaining about it, i am instead replying to Bourne assuming that its all easy and just a simple doze off.

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:

Wild wrote:nobody making out thats easy least of all me ive flown once in my life and id hate that lifestyle however its part of being a sport star not exclusively to snooker players if you dont like it dont do it either play in home events or retire from the sport but the sport cant pander to that if it wants to grow,get better and make more money.

You have missed the point wild. I am not saying that players are complaining about it, i am instead replying to Bourne assuming that its all easy and just a simple doze off.

You can sleep on planes, or just relax. It's not like you're being asked to run on a treadmill ...

Eirebilly wrote:

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:

Wild wrote:nobody making out thats easy least of all me ive flown once in my life and id hate that lifestyle however its part of being a sport star not exclusively to snooker players if you dont like it dont do it either play in home events or retire from the sport but the sport cant pander to that if it wants to grow,get better and make more money.

You have missed the point wild. I am not saying that players are complaining about it, i am instead replying to Bourne assuming that its all easy and just a simple doze off.

You can sleep on planes, or just relax. It's not like you're being asked to run on a treadmill ...

Just a question Bourne. Do you actually travel much?

Eirebilly wrote:Ok, now i understand why you dont know too much about how tiring plane travel actually is.

Eirebilly wrote:Small it may be but it was a point that you made.

Shall we now discuss the other 200+ days in the year you talk about?

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:Small it may be but it was a point that you made.

Shall we now discuss the other 200+ days in the year you talk about?

Yeh and I stand by all of it. Again you're treating the players like they're the only ones who have to 'suffer' the travel, interesting no-one mentions the fact these muppets still travel all around the world for stupid exhos, where's the sense in that ?

Eirebilly wrote:

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:Small it may be but it was a point that you made.

Shall we now discuss the other 200+ days in the year you talk about?

Yeh and I stand by all of it. Again you're treating the players like they're the only ones who have to 'suffer' the travel, interesting no-one mentions the fact these muppets still travel all around the world for stupid exhos, where's the sense in that ?

I thought that we did the travel thing Bourne? As i said earlier i am away from home for over 6months a year.

How about the 200+ extra days that you claim these players have?

As for exhibitions, hmmm, maybe to advertise the game?

You surely are on a windup right now sow its best to leave you

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:Small it may be but it was a point that you made.

Shall we now discuss the other 200+ days in the year you talk about?

Yeh and I stand by all of it. Again you're treating the players like they're the only ones who have to 'suffer' the travel, interesting no-one mentions the fact these muppets still travel all around the world for stupid exhos, where's the sense in that ?

Eirebilly wrote:Pathetic cop out?

I have clearly stated that i dont think that there is are too many tournements so how is that a pathetic cop out?

You have been proven wrong in regards to your travel theory and refuse to discuss the point you made that players have 200+ extra days per year.

And i am copping out?

Monique wrote:

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:Small it may be but it was a point that you made.

Shall we now discuss the other 200+ days in the year you talk about?

Yeh and I stand by all of it. Again you're treating the players like they're the only ones who have to 'suffer' the travel, interesting no-one mentions the fact these muppets still travel all around the world for stupid exhos, where's the sense in that ?

First they don't do it all the time, far from it.

Next it's a very important part of promoting the game in countries where it's relatively "unknown" to the general public and not part of the local culture as it is in UK, as Janie highlighted if you care to read her posts. It doesn't cost much as compared to organising a tournament, it's a more relaxed atmosphere and players are a lot more available for the fans.

Ronnie and Jack (Lisowski) were yesterday in Bulgaria, playing in a cinema in front of 600 fans, many having traveled to Sofia from other cities. The Bulgarian made it something festive. Both players gave a press conference ahead of the event answering the questions from the fans. Ronnie was interviewed live on television during nearly 20 minutes just before the match, all in very good spirit. The match itself and the frames played with local amateurs was filmed and will be on Bulgarian telly on Sunday night.

And before anyone asks why they scheduled it now with PTC12 to start tomorrow, the answer is: this was contracted already months ago when PTC12 was supposed to be played in Munich in January.

So no they aren't "muppets". Being a pro sportsperson is not just about playing in competitions.

Bourne wrote:

Monique wrote:

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:Small it may be but it was a point that you made.

Shall we now discuss the other 200+ days in the year you talk about?

Yeh and I stand by all of it. Again you're treating the players like they're the only ones who have to 'suffer' the travel, interesting no-one mentions the fact these muppets still travel all around the world for stupid exhos, where's the sense in that ?

First they don't do it all the time, far from it.

Next it's a very important part of promoting the game in countries where it's relatively "unknown" to the general public and not part of the local culture as it is in UK, as Janie highlighted if you care to read her posts. It doesn't cost much as compared to organising a tournament, it's a more relaxed atmosphere and players are a lot more available for the fans.

Ronnie and Jack (Lisowski) were yesterday in Bulgaria, playing in a cinema in front of 600 fans, many having traveled to Sofia from other cities. The Bulgarian made it something festive. Both players gave a press conference ahead of the event answering the questions from the fans. Ronnie was interviewed live on television during nearly 20 minutes just before the match, all in very good spirit. The match itself and the frames played with local amateurs was filmed and will be on Bulgarian telly on Sunday night.

And before anyone asks why they scheduled it now with PTC12 to start tomorrow, the answer is: this was contracted already months ago when PTC12 was supposed to be played in Munich in January.

So no they aren't "muppets". Being a pro sportsperson is not just about playing in competitions.

Yeh they're muppets, considering Ronnie is the king moaner he's as bad as anyone else but no doubt you're gona tell me to be a bit more sympathetic cos he's hurting inside or some tosh

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:I am not defending anyone here at all. I just find it rather sad that someone can reduce all the practice, travelling and competing done by a player like Selby into only 79 days work out of 365.

What's travelling, sitting down for a few hours and maybe going to sleep ? Practice, well that goes without saying, what else are we expecting them to do for the other 200+ days of the year ? These are supposed to be fit sportsmen, and it's hardly like snooker is the most physically demanding sport !

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:Pathetic cop out?

I have clearly stated that i dont think that there is are too many tournements so how is that a pathetic cop out?

You have been proven wrong in regards to your travel theory and refuse to discuss the point you made that players have 200+ extra days per year.

And i am copping out?

Proven wrong Give your head a shake son, you ain't proven nothing. And i've got no idea what you're on about with this 200+ days per year thing, i'll discuss it however you want. Tell me what you're expecting them to do other than travel, practice and relax (which is what they do anyway) for those non-tournament days ...

And when you're struggling for an argument, calling the other person a wind-up and 'leaving them to it' is pretty much the biggest cop out you coulda done on a forum.

Eirebilly wrote:

Bourne wrote:

Eirebilly wrote:I am not defending anyone here at all. I just find it rather sad that someone can reduce all the practice, travelling and competing done by a player like Selby into only 79 days work out of 365.

What's travelling, sitting down for a few hours and maybe going to sleep ? Practice, well that goes without saying, what else are we expecting them to do for the other 200+ days of the year ? These are supposed to be fit sportsmen, and it's hardly like snooker is the most physically demanding sport !

Here would be the quote that you made about the 200+ days Bourne. Are they not entiteled to any days off?

You were proven wrong about the travel as you have absolutely no idea of what it entails, you admitted this as well.

I have never said that the players were spoilt 10 year olds who should be wrapped in wool. I have always maintained that i am more than happy with the new amount of tournements. I simply took umbridge with Witz claiming that a player like Selby only works 70+ days a year and that is far from true.

ronnieo147 Ronnie O'Sullivan
Bulgaria was the nuts.. Love that place... Be going back very soon..:))

Wild wrote:

ronnieo147 Ronnie O'Sullivan
Bulgaria was the nuts.. Love that place... Be going back very soon..:))

Ronnie got over his flying phobia

Eirebilly wrote:You know what Bourne. Your right, i am completely wrong. I have not formed any arguement nor have i proven you wrong about you comments that traveling is easy as all you do is sleep.

You are the reason i left the forum originally, the reason i will leave it again and the one of the reasons why many people are not happy with this forum.

Good luck

Eirebilly wrote:Ok, now i understand why you dont know too much about how tiring plane travel actually is.

Witz78 wrote:as expected this threads turned into a loada old nandy pandys coming on to look after the poor players human rights.

At the end of the day

WE DONT SEE PLAYERS PRACTISING, THEY DONT GET PAID TO PRACTICE

YET THATS CLASSED AS WORK BY SOME HERE

SO IN THAT CASE SURELY FAR MORE TOURNAMENTS AND A TOTALLY FULL CALENDAR IS BETTER AS THAT WAY THEY ARE WORKING BUT ALSO BEING PAID FOR IT

IF THERE WAS ONLY ONE TOURNAMENT ALL SEASON YOUS WOULD PROB STILL CLAIM THE PLAYERS HAD TO PRACTICE THE OTHER 51 WEEKS OF THE YEAR.