by Wildey » 22 Feb 2011 Read
gallantrabbit wrote:Yes we Brits are still a little protective of our people's champ title. I know Robbo came over with very little cash, but like it or not he's just not very 'street'. The image of your typical Aussia is surf board under the arm not cue case. Health, sun and vitality and not pasty faced, not seen the sun in his eyes, benson wedged between thumb and forefinger and a large vodka on the go...
I'm not saying Robbo should try and cultivate this image cos he's world champion and on the top of his game, and what does he care, but in my opinion the only two people's champions have been Alex and Jimmy, a couple of street urchins dragged up and raised in the darkest dankest back street halls, playing for money as a way of life.
Ronnie never did this and though he's always been incredible to watch, he'll never be a people's champ.
Sorry Jim for the street urchin bit, I'm sure your ma and pa did you proud..
yes but by the late 80s early 90s the world had moved on so much especially with snooker
when Alex and Jimmy came to the fore they had to go out and meet the players and meet the people in the street during the 60s and 70s respectively by the time Ronnie came along everything was in place for him he did not have to do the groundwork and the same for the future generations its up to them to make the most of the chance they get.
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by gallantrabbit » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Sure Wild I'm just reminiscing. Would be nice to have an unrespectable with genuine talent on his way up though. That's the way I remember most snooker players. Part toe-rag part talent
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by GJ » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Bourne wrote:That's why I think British crowds won't generally root for him, for the simple fact that he's an Aussie.
well said chumba its about nationality mate
and i dont wnat robbo to be a peoples champion i prefer when he is disliked as it fires him up but for tubbs to say he doesnt fit the criteria i have showed he does
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by Wildey » 22 Feb 2011 Read
GJ wrote:Bourne wrote:That's why I think British crowds won't generally root for him, for the simple fact that he's an Aussie.
well said chumba its about nationality mate
and i dont wnat robbo to be a peoples champion i prefer when he is disliked as it fires him up but for tubbs to say he doesnt fit the criteria i have showed he does
ultimately the proof is in the eating with bums on seat if the people want to take you in to their hearts they wont care what nationality you are.
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by GJ » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Wild wrote:GJ wrote:Bourne wrote:That's why I think British crowds won't generally root for him, for the simple fact that he's an Aussie.
well said chumba its about nationality mate
and i dont wnat robbo to be a peoples champion i prefer when he is disliked as it fires him up but for tubbs to say he doesnt fit the criteria i have showed he does
ultimately the proof is in the eating with bums on seat if the people want to take you in to their hearts they wont care what nationality you are.
the welsh showed good taste last week and cheered robbo despite random moaning about it
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by Bourne » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Because he was playing a 'pom'
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by Monique » 22 Feb 2011 Read
GJ I'm not sure Neil would be fired up. I remember him in Hamm in 2008 looking really down because of the (unfair) stick he was getting on the Internet at the time. Ronnie told him "Whateva you do, you can't please everyone, yanno ... so just don't read it" and, for what I know, Neil took the advice.
I think Neil certainly has what it takes to be very popular. To be the "people's champion"? That's hard to tell. As Wild says it's an emotional reaction more than anything else and what triggers it is not always easy to nail.
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by GJ » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Monique wrote:GJ I'm not sure Neil would be fired up. I remember him in Hamm in 2008 looking really down because of the (unfair) stick he was getting on the Internet at the time. Ronnie told him "Whateva you do, you can't please everyone, yanno ... so just don't read it" and, for what I know, Neil took the advice.
I think Neil certainly has what it takes to be very popular. To be the "people's champion"? That's hard to tell. As Wild says it's an emotional reaction more than anything else and what triggers it is not always easy to nail.
yes monique i know what you mean and robbos up turn in form happened around that time by winning bahrain so ronnie gave him good advice
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by GJ » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Monique
this article from a fellow member of ours smart rexy aka stalin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A42112496i think that article was what robbo was referring to as in undeserved stick
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by Tubberlad » 22 Feb 2011 Read
I certainly think Robertson is very popular, and will continue to be popular in years to come. But many people have mentioned the fact that he's not from the Home Nations, and it's very hard to imagine him being a People Champion in my mind. Seemingly a very nice guy who is sure to have a decent following beind him, but I think Trump could be the man in years to come from a fans point of view. He already divides opinion in a matter not disimilar to Ronnie.
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by Wildey » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Tubberlad wrote:I certainly think Robertson is very popular, and will continue to be popular in years to come. But many people have mentioned the fact that he's not from the Home Nations, and it's very hard to imagine him being a People Champion in my mind. Seemingly a very nice guy who is sure to have a decent following beind him, but I think Trump could be the man in years to come from a fans point of view. He already divides opinion in a matter not disimilar to Ronnie.
mate the only devided opinion Judd Trump devides is.
IS HE rubbish OR IS HE NOT
that was never a opinion that divided anyone on Ronnie.
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by Bourne » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Wild wrote:Tubberlad wrote:I certainly think Robertson is very popular, and will continue to be popular in years to come. But many people have mentioned the fact that he's not from the Home Nations, and it's very hard to imagine him being a People Champion in my mind. Seemingly a very nice guy who is sure to have a decent following beind him, but I think Trump could be the man in years to come from a fans point of view. He already divides opinion in a matter not disimilar to Ronnie.
mate the only devided opinion Judd Trump devides is.
IS HE poo OR IS HE NOT
that was never a opinion that divided anyone on Ronnie.
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by Tubberlad » 22 Feb 2011 Read
I don't think he's rubbish, far from it actually. I think he's very raw and struggling to fulfill his potential. I think he has the natural talent to be outstanding, but his lack of success is worrying. I love watching the guy play.
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by Wildey » 22 Feb 2011 Read
Tubberlad wrote:<laugh>
I don't think he's rubbish, far from it actually. I think he's very raw and struggling to fulfill his potential. I think he has the natural talent to be outstanding, but his lack of success is worrying. I love watching the guy play.
i love watching him play also
in Germany he was brilliant enjoyed every second of his performance
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by Witz78 » 23 Feb 2011 Read
With a favourable round 1 draw, i fancy Judd to make it to the quarters at least this year at Sheffield.
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by Bourne » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Witz78 wrote:With a favourable round 1 draw, i fancy Judd to make it to the quarters at least this year at Sheffield.
I'd like him to make a run in China first and ease a bit of the pressure
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by Witz78 » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Bourne wrote:Witz78 wrote:With a favourable round 1 draw, i fancy Judd to make it to the quarters at least this year at Sheffield.
I'd like him to make a run in China first and ease a bit of the pressure
a good run in the PTC Finals and the China Open and he can almost enter the Worlds relaxed with a top 16 spot for the start of next season in the bag
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by Bourne » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Witz78 wrote:Bourne wrote:Witz78 wrote:With a favourable round 1 draw, i fancy Judd to make it to the quarters at least this year at Sheffield.
I'd like him to make a run in China first and ease a bit of the pressure
a good run in the PTC Finals and the China Open and he can almost enter the Worlds relaxed with a top 16 spot for the start of next season in the bag
Spot on
Can't wait to see wild eating his words on this
He'll physically self-combust
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by Witz78 » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Especially when Trump takes Hendrys place in the elite after Sheffield haha
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by Wildey » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Witz78 wrote:With a favourable round 1 draw, i fancy Judd to make it to the quarters at least this year at Sheffield.
well he should get in to the last 32 draw at least if he has any sort of future thats for sure
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by Wildey » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Witz78 wrote:Especially when Trump takes Hendrys place in the elite after Sheffield haha
Trump can play until hes a 1000 he wont get close to hendry in any elite
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by Tubberlad » 23 Feb 2011 Read
It's worrying that Trump has not played at the Crucible since 2007. He was really good that night too.
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by Bourne » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Tubberlad wrote:It's worrying that Trump has not played at the Crucible since 2007. He was really good that night too.
It's worrying but I guess it makes all the wins in the future all worthwhile and even sweeter
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by Wildey » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Bourne wrote:Witz78 wrote:Bourne wrote:Witz78 wrote:With a favourable round 1 draw, i fancy Judd to make it to the quarters at least this year at Sheffield.
I'd like him to make a run in China first and ease a bit of the pressure
a good run in the PTC Finals and the China Open and he can almost enter the Worlds relaxed with a top 16 spot for the start of next season in the bag
Spot on
Can't wait to see wild eating his words on this
He'll physically self-combust
getting in the top 16 isnt proof of anything christ Stuart bingham is close
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by Witz78 » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Tubberlad wrote:It's worrying that Trump has not played at the Crucible since 2007. He was really good that night too.
Even Jimmys played there more recently
(ok, it was at the Legends event last year)
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by Wildey » 23 Feb 2011 Read
Witz78 wrote:Tubberlad wrote:It's worrying that Trump has not played at the Crucible since 2007. He was really good that night too.
Even Jimmys played there more recently
(ok, it was at the Legends event last year)
lucky there wasent a qualifying competition or Barry Pinches would have got on the legends tour instead of him
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by Tubberlad » 10 Dec 2011 Read
The answer to this question becomes clearer with every month... I think it's all but answered!
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