Ronnie O'Sullivan v John Higgins

Sonny wrote:Who would you fancy your chances against sickpotter if you had to name a player?

Depends on the game...........

A single frame.....I'll play anyone but the stakes would vary depending on who my opponent is I'd be willing to have a go with Ronnie at something simple like 20 a frame and quit if I got $500 down. Money well spent and it wouldn't be quick, I will pick some frames off him

Really it depends on my playing regularly. If I get 10-15hrs of good practice/play per week I'd step out and play anyone short matches like best of 5 or 7. Matches like that for 100-200 against a tough player are great motivators for me. I raise my game, it brings that extra level of focus that I can't find otherwise these days.

Money's a good motivator for a lot of people but for me it's not just money that I need to get into it, I've got to be playing against someone who's top notch. For those games playing the better player and not embarassing myself motivates me more than money could.

I'd gladly lose a few hundred to play a match against Ronnie, John, Stephen, etc. it'd be worth it no matter what the outcome

Now.....who do I like my chances against inside the top 16 .......I'd think I'd go with......nope, can't do it . I don't play enough these days to have the arrogance necessary to like my chances against any top 16 player

Maybe 6 red matches. I'd be a coin flip fav against a top player, you don't have to sustain your focus as long so it'd be my best odds these days

ROBBO has worked out maguire time to do the same with murphy

The same questions and arguements could be made about Williams and Ronnie to be honest. Ronnie is the best cueman i have seen but nowhere near the best snooker player due to his lack of commitment and mental strength.

Sonny wrote:There's not enough needle between Higgins and O'Sullivan to make it a classic rivalry.

Very true. Selby v Ronnie or Murphy v Ronnie is much more interesting imo.

Back in the day when Ronnie run his mouth on Hendry and Williams those matches also had extra spice.

You still doing the rounds Seifer? Under a new guise?
I've nothing against either player on the table, but if JH wins another world before Ronnie he will be seen as the greater player like it or not.
One little point for your stats. Mark Williams proved last week how unimportant it is to have piles of centuries. Great for fans of course, but not a major point in deciding the better player.

Ok Seifer I apologise and stand corrected

Greatest no greater. Greatest is Hendry isn't it? Or is that another debate?

Talk about moving the goalposts, he says he will NEVER return. Now he lets on he said he wouldn't come back permanently, just every now and again

I guess some people can't except that Higgins is closing the gap

World titles = the measure of a players greatness

Higgin & Ronnie turned pro at the same time. If Higgins wins more World's...Ronnie GOAT =

It's quite funny reading this, like gallant has an invisible friend or something. I can tell from the responses what must've gone on. My favourite line is this one:

One little point for your stats. Mark Williams proved last week how unimportant it is to have piles of centuries.

I wasn't winding him up Sonny honest...

ethinks you guys are mistaking the weathervane for the wind.
The number of titles. The rankers won. The tons. The maxes. The prize money totals. They all count for something... but not everything.
What is "everything" is how those figures were achieved. The numbers do not reflect the artistry, the creativity and brilliance of performance. This is why Alex and Jimmy are so important to snooker.
I rename "GOAT" - "GOTT" (Greatest of That Time) and "GOMT" (Greatest of My Time).
Who has raised the bar so high they been the vital, essential exponent of snooker to a generation of fans,
and perhaps, without whom our sport might not exist as we know it?

I nominate as GOTT... Joe Davis
I nominate as GOMT... Ronnie O'Sullivan


=o)

Noel

No doubt Joe Davis was a great champion, but I think he cooked it too many times to be considered GOTT.
Hendry for me...

Not to mention there isn't really any "needle" off the table. They are quite different persons and both tend to keep themselves to themselves in general, Mark more so than Ronnie BTW, but I've been with both in numerous exos in Europe and there is absolutely nothing particularly tense between the two away from the table. At the table it's different.
If you really want "needle" between two players get McCulloch and Dott ...

Monique wrote:Not to mention there isn't really any "needle" off the table. They are quite different persons and both tend to keep themselves to themselves in general, Mark more so than Ronnie BTW, but I've been with both in numerous exos in Europe and there is absolutely nothing particularly tense between the two away from the table. At the table it's different.
If you really want "needle" between two players get McCulloch and Dott ...

robbo and murphy

Monique wrote:If you really want "needle" between two players get McCulloch and Dott ...

Yeah, I've heard about that one... my, you wouldn't pick that one out, would you?

thetubberlad wrote:

Monique wrote:If you really want "needle" between two players get McCulloch and Dott ...

Yeah, I've heard about that one... my, you wouldn't pick that one out, would you?

What’s the gripe between these two?

case_master wrote:

thetubberlad wrote:

Monique wrote:If you really want "needle" between two players get McCulloch and Dott ...

Yeah, I've heard about that one... my, you wouldn't pick that one out, would you?

What’s the gripe between these two?

i think dott was bitter that ian beat him in the worlds round 1 in 07

Dott said ian won because of slow play tactics

I also think McCulloch said that Anthony Hamilton was much tougher to beat than Dott...

GJtheaussiestud wrote:

case_master wrote:

thetubberlad wrote:

Monique wrote:If you really want "needle" between two players get McCulloch and Dott ...

Yeah, I've heard about that one... my, you wouldn't pick that one out, would you?

What’s the gripe between these two?

i think dott was bitter that ian beat him in the worlds round 1 in 07

Dott said ian won because of slow play tactics

I've not heard this before

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_s ... 579661.stm

THERE IS A VIDEO LINK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ARTICLE REACTION FROM BOTH PLAYERS

NO LOVE LOST

GJtheaussiestud wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/snooker/6579661.stm

THERE IS A VIDEO LINK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ARTICLE REACTION FROM BOTH PLAYERS

NO LOVE LOST

good find