Snooker TV Viewings...

Not fully dropped, but DEFINATELY classed as expendable, dropped for stuff like glastonbury, big weekend, F1 practice......its a slippery slope, Wild will probably come back with Moto GP is marmite, but it was a bit of a jewel in the BBC schedule. Snooker held its own against most things, and saying that time has changed, more channels etc. is burying your head in the sand, snooker has to stand out NOW in the present, real world. Power Snooker and the shootout are a step in the right direction, maybe not for the purist, but if they want to continue watching top level snooker, the purists are gonna have to get off their high horse and except that the shorter formats are the future and saviour of THEIR sport, and not the anti-christ they'd like to think

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Lucky balls wrote:Power Snooker and the shootout are a step in the right direction, maybe not for the purist, but if they want to continue watching top level snooker, the purists are gonna have to get off their high horse and except that the shorter formats are the future and saviour of THEIR sport, and not the anti-christ they'd like to think

I think a lot of that is true. Now, I've got to admit I thought Power Snooker was rubbish, but in terms of bringing in new fans, I think it would have a much better shot than another standard best-of-9 tournament. I'm not saying I would value gimmick tournaments more, I just think that new things need to be tried.

I loved the World Open format, but would not like to see it become the norm. But again, I think it did more for snooker than a standard ranker.

LeBourne wrote:http://www.snookerisland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=433

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Don't drop one now dude........you've set yourself up as the grammar king

Big pressure on now

Ill do viewings for anything if anyone likes..then just ask. Not a problem for me.

Darts has variety in tournaments.

Traditional formats for the World Championships but the following variances for different tournaments to give them an identity.

Leg play instead of sets
Starting on a double
Group stages

to name but a few!!

Snooker needs innovation and like it or hate it shot clocks, and other "gimmicks" are going to be part of snookers future. Hearn knows what has to be done, lots of similar tournaments will be the death knell of snooker, hence theres already been changes with the Grand Prix becoming the World Open, the Welsh Open format changing, and the new tournaments Power Snooker and the Sky Shootout springing up.

What i also want to see next season is a ranker on a format like this.

6 reds snooker with games played in sets and frames. Best of 5 sets with 3 frames in each set.

I think it would spice things up and be dramatic.

wildJONESEYE wrote:on that note im off to bed let witz talk rubbish all night ill tell him what a sausage he is in the morning

Good Night plank

WItz you make a good point with certain things, I've been placing an emphasis on variety for a good while.

What I'd like to see:

A ranking tournament with sets. Each set best of three frames. Best of three sets up till semi-final, final best of seven sets.

A matchplay tournament. First to four frames up until semi-finals, must win by two but a max of 11 frames to be played. Final first to seven with a max of 17 frames.

A few events like shoot-out & power snooker to draw in new fans, but of course non ranking.

WItz you make a good point with certain things, I've been placing an emphasis on variety for a good while.

What I'd like to see:

A ranking tournament with sets. Each set best of three frames. Best of three sets up till semi-final, final best of seven sets. I LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT

A matchplay tournament. First to four frames up until semi-finals, must win by two but a max of 11 frames to be played. Final first to seven with a max of 17 frames. SO YOU JUST PLAY A DECIDING 11TH FRAME?? ID PROB RATHER MAKE IT FIRST TO 4 AND BEST OF 10 AND IF IT ENDS 5-5 HAVE A FOOTBALL PENALTY SHOOT OUT STYLE WITH ALTERNATE ATTEMPTS WITH BALL IN THE D AND PLAYERS HAVING TO POT A BLUE OFF ITS SPOT INTO ONE OF THE TOP POCKETS. WOULD MAKE FOR GREAT DRAMA AND TEST THE NERVES.

A few events like shoot-out & power snooker to draw in new fans, but of course non ranking. WHY NOT RANKING, EVEN AT LOWER POINTS??? SEEMS TO ME MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER ANTI THESE TYPES OF FORMATS ITS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR FAVOURITE PLAYERS SUPPOSEDLY ARENT SUITED TO
THIS FORMAT

Witz78 wrote:WItz you make a good point with certain things, I've been placing an emphasis on variety for a good while.

What I'd like to see:

A ranking tournament with sets. Each set best of three frames. Best of three sets up till semi-final, final best of seven sets. I LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT

A matchplay tournament. First to four frames up until semi-finals, must win by two but a max of 11 frames to be played. Final first to seven with a max of 17 frames. SO YOU JUST PLAY A DECIDING 11TH FRAME?? ID PROB RATHER MAKE IT FIRST TO 4 AND BEST OF 10 AND IF IT ENDS 5-5 HAVE A FOOTBALL PENALTY SHOOT OUT STYLE WITH ALTERNATE ATTEMPTS WITH BALL IN THE D AND PLAYERS HAVING TO POT A BLUE OFF ITS SPOT INTO ONE OF THE TOP POCKETS. WOULD MAKE FOR GREAT DRAMA AND TEST THE NERVES.

A few events like shoot-out & power snooker to draw in new fans, but of course non ranking. WHY NOT RANKING, EVEN AT LOWER POINTS??? SEEMS TO ME MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER ANTI THESE TYPES OF FORMATS ITS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR FAVOURITE PLAYERS SUPPOSEDLY ARENT SUITED TO
THIS FORMAT

The sets idea is almost universally popular, with the exception of the ultra-traditional Smart I'm not sure why though as it doesn't interfere with the game of snooker at all itself. It's still 100% snooker.

That shoot-out idea is one I haven't heard of before, but is strangely interesting I'm not sure...

But as for that last idea, absolutely no way would I want to see ranking points for rubbish like that. My favourite player is probably Ronnie, and would dish up in events like that, but it would make me sick to see points for it.

wildJONESEYE wrote:We need more Long tournaments

They can't even one of the two long formats right, how are they going to be able to manage more long formats? People sometimes claim that in the 80's Snooker was huge because of the long formats but if you look back even then there were only two Long Format events (briefly three when the World Matchplay was on) and most events were best of nine. The only change with the UK Championship is the final. The other ranking events used to have best of 17 semis but that was in an era of mainly highlights rather than live coverage. The three session finals were gone by 1990. Overall there has been little change in the lenght of matches.

During the 2009 WC I used to read a TV Ratings thread on the Digital Spy forum. Every day Snooker seemed to be down 10% on the 2008 number and more worryingly was about 25% down on what BBC2 normally got in that time.

powers snooker is crap

Wild, as someone who said something along the lines of "I'd rather snooker die and remember it how it was, than to have it ruined" then your rather selfish opinions count you out of any discussion on this subject. It must be obvious that the members of a snooker forum aren't the problem, we'll watch snooker whatever, pressing the red button isnt a big deal. BUT to sponsors and players who need to make a living, the sport being hidden away with gymnastics, table tennis and rhythmic gymnastics on an interactive service which dwindled to half its size last year for the vast majority on freeview....then it becomes an issue. No one will force you to watch any of the new forms of the game, but if it helps to support the 'proper' ranking tour I cant for the life of me understand why you'd be against it????

Didnt want this to turn into a debate on long formats vs short formats

randam05 wrote:Last years darts world champ:

2009 WORLD DARTS BBC2(SUN 17:50) 3.090 million

Saying something? sorry for proving wrong wild.

Never let minor details like fact and truth get in the way of what you believe in - even if that is only in your own head

randam05 wrote:Ill do viewings for anything if anyone likes..then just ask. Not a problem for me.

Randam do you know the viewing figures for the Sky Shootout yet?

sundaygirl wrote:

randam05 wrote:Ill do viewings for anything if anyone likes..then just ask. Not a problem for me.

Randam do you know the viewing figures for the Sky Shootout yet?

Not yet sorry..will post up soon as i know.

randam05 wrote:

sundaygirl wrote:

randam05 wrote:Ill do viewings for anything if anyone likes..then just ask. Not a problem for me.

Randam do you know the viewing figures for the Sky Shootout yet?

Not yet sorry..will post up soon as i know.

Friday 113,854

Saturday (after the Jimmy Michie story came to light) 23,963, 034

Sundaygirl...

Sky sports2

LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SUN 19.00) 172,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SAT 12.00) 95,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SAT 18.00) 90,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SUN 14.00) 73,000

randam05 wrote:Sundaygirl...

Sky sports2

LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SUN 19.00) 172,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SAT 12.00) 95,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SAT 18.00) 90,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SUN 14.00) 73,000

And Friday?

Don't tell me I was close with 113,000

wheelsofsteel wrote:

randam05 wrote:Sundaygirl...

Sky sports2

LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SUN 19.00) 172,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SAT 12.00) 95,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SAT 18.00) 90,000
LIVE WORLD SNOOKER SHOOT OUT (SUN 14.00) 73,000

And Friday?

Don't tell me I was close with 113,000

Didnt come in top ten..so im not sure, but that was expected, just look how the tournament grew in interest as it went on-ish..very interesting, would like to see the viewings if it went on for a few more days.