Re: Ronnie's aftermath of the 140-147 incident
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Bourne wrote:Yes I think it's sad that some people want Ronnie to just be a boring man who sits in his chair nicely with his top button done up and only speaks when he's spoken too. He is what he is, just accept it IMO
sickpotter wrote:Bourne wrote:Yes I think it's sad that some people want Ronnie to just be a boring man who sits in his chair nicely with his top button done up and only speaks when he's spoken too. He is what he is, just accept it IMO
No one wants what you've described but I don't think it's too much to ask that he respect the game and the fans.
Bourne wrote:He's just given the fans one of the most dramatic frames in recent memory. As tgntg said, regardless of whether he potted the last black or not, some of the shotmaking throughout the break was superb in anyone's book.
Noel wrote:sickpotter wrote:Bourne wrote:Yes I think it's sad that some people want Ronnie to just be a boring man who sits in his chair nicely with his top button done up and only speaks when he's spoken too. He is what he is, just accept it IMO
No one wants what you've described but I don't think it's too much to ask that he respect the game and the fans.
Rob... I understand that a lot of people think he's out of order often. I do too.
But I don't want the Golden Goose to STFU and stop laying eggs.
O'Sullivan is the only player who can sell-out a venue... is that because he "disrespects" his fans?
I call "match-fixing" disrespect for the game... not showmanship mate.
Snooker would have been on life support for a decade had it not been for The Rocket.
Do a comparative websearch or YouTube search on "Snooker" and check how many times "O'Sullivan" pops up.
That's what I'm talkin' about.
He earned his celebrity. As recently as yesterday.
=o)
Noel
JohnFromLondonTown wrote:
By the by. Alex has passed, he done his deeds, bless him. Ronnie is still about. Big diffo.
JohnFromLondonTown wrote:So what Sonny, we get to a level where making a 147 doesn't matter anymore, just because its him?
The guy doesn't love the game, its all about him that matters.
If we've got the the best player that has ever picked up a cue, playing the game on national TV, with that comes a certain responsibility. Giving the fella leverage like "It was his break, if he wants to leave the last black it's up to him not anybody else. " is pony talk. Your bowing down to someone who couldn't give a flying buck about the game. Let him walk from the game, let him be found guilty for bringing the game into disrepute, because that's what he's done. Where will his disrespect end?
sickpotter wrote:How long will ROS keep playing for sellout crowds when he tells the fans he could care less about them?
I liked his showmanship and play, it was brilliant no doubt
BUT.....
to be making like a 147 isn't any kind of achievement disrespects the game and all who play it, especially those who have never reached that magic number.
To tell all who've paid to watch you play you don't care about them is disrespectful, it's fans of the sport that has allowed ROS to be doing something other than flipping burgers.
Ronnie has given us all the big and some just smile and say that's fine. I disagree, his attitude is pure
Sonny wrote:Where did he actually say he didn't care about the fans? I'm yet to see that quote.
Bourne wrote:Exactly, it was showmanship. We should enjoy it, not moan.
Bourne wrote:When you're as good as he is wild, 147s are a bonus, they're nothing like winning titles. Robbo said himself in the BBC interview that he's not bothering to count anymore. I think he would have potted the last black even if Jan didn't ask him too but we'll never know but I think many people just want to hang him for even the slightest things so this is just a good excuse.
Iranu wrote:JohnFromLondonTown wrote:
By the by. Alex has passed, he done his deeds, bless him. Ronnie is still about. Big diffo.
The only difference is that Higgins died without atoning for the misdemeanors and Ronnie hasn't (yet... ).
thetubberlad wrote:John, do you HONESTLY believe that he doesn't care about the game?
JohnFromLondonTown wrote:thetubberlad wrote:John, do you HONESTLY believe that he doesn't care about the game?
Do you honestly believe that he does? What makes you think he's sincere? Met someone like him B4?
Witz78 wrote:JohnFromLondonTown wrote:thetubberlad wrote:John, do you HONESTLY believe that he doesn't care about the game?
Do you honestly believe that he does? What makes you think he's sincere? Met someone like him B4?
he doesnt need the money yet he continues to play on (despite his repeated threats to retire)
and its not like you can counter that by saying hes only in it to win titles now, thats clearly never been a high priority either for him.
JohnFromLondonTown wrote:Witz78 wrote:JohnFromLondonTown wrote:thetubberlad wrote:John, do you HONESTLY believe that he doesn't care about the game?
Do you honestly believe that he does? What makes you think he's sincere? Met someone like him B4?
he doesnt need the money yet he continues to play on (despite his repeated threats to retire)
and its not like you can counter that by saying hes only in it to win titles now, thats clearly never been a high priority either for him.
I don't understand your riddle Witz?
thetubberlad wrote:How can you guys take a comment by this guy seriously? How many of us actually understand his condition? Statements like 'how can he be so miserable when you're so talented succesful, loaded, good looking' do my head in. It means nothing if your mind ain't right. Some people deal with it well. Some don't. It's easy to talk when you don't have to deal with such demons day in, day out. I'm not a sad young fella trying to stand up for his every move, but I respect him, for all his faults. John, do you HONESTLY believe that he doesn't care about the game? I think he's consumed by it, it's his passion. To such a degree that it damages him. He pretends to hate it. I'm dismayed when I hear him say he doesn't care about fans, but I don't believe it for a second. I think the only thing that obsesses him as much as snooker is producing perfection for fans. Look at that break: incredible. He's a one off. We will never see that kind of snooker when he's gone, and the sooner some realise that the better.
thetubberlad wrote:GJ & John: Neither of you understand O'Sullivan. I'm no different. But I do believe he loves snooker, and the fans, to such an extent that it's unhealthy.